Honda Car Forum

Just some observations.

I have been getting an intermittent code of P0141, which indicated that
I needed to address the secondary heated O2 sensor. The Helms manual
specifies a number of tests to perform, but lacking some of the specific
tools and the majority of the electrical knowledge to use them, I opted
to replace the sensor.

This took me just over an hour, as I had to put my car up on jackstands,
and then be very meticulous about each step. The actual work only took
a few minutes, and the whole process would probably only take me 15
minutes if I had to do it again.

The first step is removal of the front seat. There are four bolts to
take out. The single thing that took me the longest was removing a
plastic clip holding the seatbelt sensor, so that I could take the seat
completely out. This part of the job isn't mentioned anywhere I looked,
so I thought I'd mention it here.

The rest of the job is pretty simple and straightforward, and didn't
take long at all.

I saw the requisite tool (Snap-on YA8875) for sale for thirty dollars or
so, but found an offset O2 sensor wrench at AutoZone for $10 that worked
just fine. The sensor itself cost me $60, shipping included.

My local dealer gets $350 to do this job.

Happy Holidays.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
.... The reason we're called "nice guys" is *because* we take so long to
finish.

Why does the Front Seat have to come out?

G-Man


"Dave Kelsen" <dave@kelsen.us> wrote in message
news:SBZof.37424$6e.3516@tornado.tampabay.rr.com.. .
> Just some observations.
>
> I have been getting an intermittent code of P0141, which indicated that I
> needed to address the secondary heated O2 sensor. The Helms manual
> specifies a number of tests to perform, but lacking some of the specific
> tools and the majority of the electrical knowledge to use them, I opted to
> replace the sensor.
>
> This took me just over an hour, as I had to put my car up on jackstands,
> and then be very meticulous about each step. The actual work only took a
> few minutes, and the whole process would probably only take me 15 minutes
> if I had to do it again.
>
> The first step is removal of the front seat. There are four bolts to take
> out. The single thing that took me the longest was removing a plastic
> clip holding the seatbelt sensor, so that I could take the seat completely
> out. This part of the job isn't mentioned anywhere I looked, so I thought
> I'd mention it here.
>
> The rest of the job is pretty simple and straightforward, and didn't take
> long at all.
>
> I saw the requisite tool (Snap-on YA8875) for sale for thirty dollars or
> so, but found an offset O2 sensor wrench at AutoZone for $10 that worked
> just fine. The sensor itself cost me $60, shipping included.
>
> My local dealer gets $350 to do this job.
>
> Happy Holidays.
>
>
> RFT!!!
> Dave Kelsen
> --
> ... The reason we're called "nice guys" is *because* we take so long to
> finish.

"G-Man" <shoot.digital@gmail.com> wrote in
news:11qdje5fo6h4i3f@news.supernews.com:

> Why does the Front Seat have to come out?
>
> G-Man
>

that's got me wondering,too!

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net


>
> "Dave Kelsen" <dave@kelsen.us> wrote in message
> news:SBZof.37424$6e.3516@tornado.tampabay.rr.com.. .
>> Just some observations.
>>
>> I have been getting an intermittent code of P0141, which indicated
>> that I needed to address the secondary heated O2 sensor. The Helms
>> manual specifies a number of tests to perform, but lacking some of
>> the specific tools and the majority of the electrical knowledge to
>> use them, I opted to replace the sensor.
>>
>> This took me just over an hour, as I had to put my car up on
>> jackstands, and then be very meticulous about each step. The actual
>> work only took a few minutes, and the whole process would probably
>> only take me 15 minutes if I had to do it again.
>>
>> The first step is removal of the front seat. There are four bolts to
>> take out. The single thing that took me the longest was removing a
>> plastic clip holding the seatbelt sensor, so that I could take the
>> seat completely out. This part of the job isn't mentioned anywhere I
>> looked, so I thought I'd mention it here.

On 12/19/2005 9:12 AM G-Man spake these words of knowledge:

> Why does the Front Seat have to come out?
>
> G-Man

The sensor cable runs through an opening in the floor of the car, and
connects via a 4-pin connector to interior wiring. That connection is
under the carpeting, and essentially impossible to get to without
complete removal of the seat. (I originally thought that I might be
able to get to it by removing the front bolts, loosening the rear bolts,
and leaning the seat back, but no such luck.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen


>
>
> "Dave Kelsen" <dave@kelsen.us> wrote in message
> news:SBZof.37424$6e.3516@tornado.tampabay.rr.com.. .
>> Just some observations.
>>
>> I have been getting an intermittent code of P0141, which indicated that I
>> needed to address the secondary heated O2 sensor. The Helms manual
>> specifies a number of tests to perform, but lacking some of the specific
>> tools and the majority of the electrical knowledge to use them, I opted to
>> replace the sensor.
>>
>> This took me just over an hour, as I had to put my car up on jackstands,
>> and then be very meticulous about each step. The actual work only took a
>> few minutes, and the whole process would probably only take me 15 minutes
>> if I had to do it again.
>>
>> The first step is removal of the front seat. There are four bolts to take
>> out. The single thing that took me the longest was removing a plastic
>> clip holding the seatbelt sensor, so that I could take the seat completely
>> out. This part of the job isn't mentioned anywhere I looked, so I thought
>> I'd mention it here.
>>
>> The rest of the job is pretty simple and straightforward, and didn't take
>> long at all.
>>
>> I saw the requisite tool (Snap-on YA8875) for sale for thirty dollars or
>> so, but found an offset O2 sensor wrench at AutoZone for $10 that worked
>> just fine. The sensor itself cost me $60, shipping included.
>>
>> My local dealer gets $350 to do this job.
>>
>> Happy Holidays.
>>
>>
>> RFT!!!
>> Dave Kelsen
>> --
>> ... The reason we're called "nice guys" is *because* we take so long to
>> finish.
>
>
--
.... Personally, I like my flying brains dark and evil.