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Old 28 Nov 2005, 07:09 pm
Dave Kelsen
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Default Surging

My wife just came home in her Odyssey ('01, 99,756 miles), and it is
surging from 1K to 4K RPM continuously every 1.5 - 2 seconds. Anyone
have an idea what can cause this? I haven't the first clue.

Thanks.

Dave Kelsen
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Old 29 Nov 2005, 02:58 pm
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Dave Kelsen wrote:
> My wife just came home in her Odyssey ('01, 99,756 miles), and it is
> surging from 1K to 4K RPM continuously every 1.5 - 2 seconds. Anyone
> have an idea what can cause this? I haven't the first clue.
>


You could have a large airbubble in your cooling system as that is a
common cause.

A common way to burp this out is to put the car on a level plane, take
off the radiator cap, start the car and vary the engine speed from
normal to about 2-3000 rpm -- just cycle it with a couple of second
intervals. Watch for the radiator level to drop. When it drops, add
more coolant (the honda OEM or approved kind). Eventually, the air
bubble will burp out and the problem hopefully will be gone.

Not sure on your Odyssey, but most Hondas have a nipple that can be
opened to let the air out and basically do the same as described above.
You may want to check with a service manual on the specifiic procedure
for your van.

Remco

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Old 29 Nov 2005, 03:03 pm
Remco
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Remco wrote:
> Dave Kelsen wrote:
> > My wife just came home in her Odyssey ('01, 99,756 miles), and it is
> > surging from 1K to 4K RPM continuously every 1.5 - 2 seconds. Anyone
> > have an idea what can cause this? I haven't the first clue.
> >

>
> You could have a large airbubble in your cooling system as that is a
> common cause.
>
> A common way to burp this out is to put the car on a level plane, take
> off the radiator cap, start the car and vary the engine speed from
> normal to about 2-3000 rpm -- just cycle it with a couple of second
> intervals. Watch for the radiator level to drop. When it drops, add
> more coolant (the honda OEM or approved kind). Eventually, the air
> bubble will burp out and the problem hopefully will be gone.
>
> Not sure on your Odyssey, but most Hondas have a nipple that can be
> opened to let the air out and basically do the same as described above.
> You may want to check with a service manual on the specifiic procedure
> for your van.
>
> Remco


Oops -- just noticed that you asked the same question below this one.
Just follow their advice.

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Old 29 Nov 2005, 06:12 pm
Dave Kelsen
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Default Re: Surging

On 11/29/2005 2:03 PM Remco spake these words of knowledge:

> Remco wrote:
>> Dave Kelsen wrote:
>> > My wife just came home in her Odyssey ('01, 99,756 miles), and it is
>> > surging from 1K to 4K RPM continuously every 1.5 - 2 seconds. Anyone
>> > have an idea what can cause this? I haven't the first clue.
>> >

>>
>> You could have a large airbubble in your cooling system as that is a
>> common cause.
>>
>> A common way to burp this out is to put the car on a level plane, take
>> off the radiator cap, start the car and vary the engine speed from
>> normal to about 2-3000 rpm -- just cycle it with a couple of second
>> intervals. Watch for the radiator level to drop. When it drops, add
>> more coolant (the honda OEM or approved kind). Eventually, the air
>> bubble will burp out and the problem hopefully will be gone.
>>
>> Not sure on your Odyssey, but most Hondas have a nipple that can be
>> opened to let the air out and basically do the same as described above.
>> You may want to check with a service manual on the specifiic procedure
>> for your van.
>>
>> Remco

>
> Oops -- just noticed that you asked the same question below this one.
> Just follow their advice.



Yes, this was the 'original' message which didn't show up on my server
-- until today.

Anyway, I did top off the coolant, but it wasn't very low; I don't
believe it took more than about a cup to fill the overflow tank, and the
radiator itself was full. (How about that antifreeze... they tell you
up front that they're selling you half water, and *still* charge $13 for
a gallon. Oh, my achin' backside. Ah, well.

The problem turned out to be just what it sounded like - the part they
replaced is called an IAC, and I believe that stands for Idle Adjustment
Controller. The technician said she had never heard one cycling as fast
and as hard as mine. Replacing that one part solved the problem, and
was covered under my warranty (which expires in 220 miles). It would
otherwise have cost me $259.89!

Thanks to all who responded.


RFT!!!
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Old 30 Nov 2005, 05:27 am
Eric
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Dave Kelsen wrote:

> The problem turned out to be just what it sounded like - the part they
> replaced is called an IAC, and I believe that stands for Idle Adjustment
> Controller. The technician said she had never heard one cycling as fast
> and as hard as mine. Replacing that one part solved the problem, and
> was covered under my warranty (which expires in 220 miles). It would
> otherwise have cost me $259.89!
>


Such poor quality control these days. That part was designed to fail after
the warranty expired!
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Old 30 Nov 2005, 08:53 am
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Default Re: Surging

You might become familiar with www.odyclub.com . The Odyssey has a lot of
problems that keep showing up. Most are covered in detail by the thousands
of forum members. It is an information resource that any odyssey owner
cannot do without.


"Dave Kelsen" <dave@kelsen.us> wrote in message
news:xf5jf.47821$1l6.7214@tornado.tampabay.rr.com. ..
> On 11/29/2005 2:03 PM Remco spake these words of knowledge:
>
>> Remco wrote:
>>> Dave Kelsen wrote:
>>> > My wife just came home in her Odyssey ('01, 99,756 miles), and it is
>>> > surging from 1K to 4K RPM continuously every 1.5 - 2 seconds. Anyone
>>> > have an idea what can cause this? I haven't the first clue.
>>> >
>>>
>>> You could have a large airbubble in your cooling system as that is a
>>> common cause.
>>>
>>> A common way to burp this out is to put the car on a level plane, take
>>> off the radiator cap, start the car and vary the engine speed from
>>> normal to about 2-3000 rpm -- just cycle it with a couple of second
>>> intervals. Watch for the radiator level to drop. When it drops, add
>>> more coolant (the honda OEM or approved kind). Eventually, the air
>>> bubble will burp out and the problem hopefully will be gone.
>>>
>>> Not sure on your Odyssey, but most Hondas have a nipple that can be
>>> opened to let the air out and basically do the same as described above.
>>> You may want to check with a service manual on the specifiic procedure
>>> for your van.
>>>
>>> Remco

>>
>> Oops -- just noticed that you asked the same question below this one.
>> Just follow their advice.

>
>
> Yes, this was the 'original' message which didn't show up on my server --
> until today.
>
> Anyway, I did top off the coolant, but it wasn't very low; I don't believe
> it took more than about a cup to fill the overflow tank, and the radiator
> itself was full. (How about that antifreeze... they tell you up front
> that they're selling you half water, and *still* charge $13 for a gallon.
> Oh, my achin' backside. Ah, well.
>
> The problem turned out to be just what it sounded like - the part they
> replaced is called an IAC, and I believe that stands for Idle Adjustment
> Controller. The technician said she had never heard one cycling as fast
> and as hard as mine. Replacing that one part solved the problem, and was
> covered under my warranty (which expires in 220 miles). It would
> otherwise have cost me $259.89!
>
> Thanks to all who responded.
>
>
> RFT!!!
> Dave Kelsen
> --
> ... I had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met.



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Old 30 Nov 2005, 09:18 am
jim beam
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Eric wrote:
> Dave Kelsen wrote:
>
>
>>The problem turned out to be just what it sounded like - the part they
>>replaced is called an IAC, and I believe that stands for Idle Adjustment
>>Controller. The technician said she had never heard one cycling as fast
>>and as hard as mine. Replacing that one part solved the problem, and
>>was covered under my warranty (which expires in 220 miles). It would
>>otherwise have cost me $259.89!
>>

>
>
> Such poor quality control these days. That part was designed to fail after
> the warranty expired!


actually, that's /good/ qc. detroit's spent a lot of money on r&d over
the years, but as you can see, not much has gone into innovation - a
huge proportion has gone into lifetime limitation. it's /very/ hard to
make something that reliably works well for a specific period then
fails. nature tends to be for rapid failure or long life. lifetime
limitation has been the prime objective of the last 30 years. ask any
taxi driver how long the last transmission on their detroit hunkojunk
lasted - they'll all give you a startlingly similar number. that's no
coincidence.
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Old 30 Nov 2005, 09:52 pm
Dave Kelsen
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On 11/30/2005 7:53 AM Woody spake these words of knowledge:

> You might become familiar with www.odyclub.com . The Odyssey has a lot of
> problems that keep showing up. Most are covered in detail by the thousands
> of forum members. It is an information resource that any odyssey owner
> cannot do without.



Yep. Been a member since October of 2000. You can go there and see
pictures of my Oddy, in fact. Incredible source of information.

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