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Old 25 Feb 2011, 05:25 pm
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Default Switching to synthetic oil

The scheduled oil change intreval on my Accord calls for every 3,750
miles or 3 months, whichever occurs first. Until recently it usually
occured before 3 months but lately I drive a lot less and sometimes it
takes even 5 months to get another 3,750 miles into my car. This causes
a dilemma, because I also have some other maintenance items at every
7,500 miles, which would be normally at every other oil change. Since I
still want to have only one oil change in midway of the 7,500 mile
maintenance interval (i.e. at every 3,750 miles,) I am in conflict with
the 3 month maximum interval. So I've been thinking of switching from
natural oil to synthetic which would not degrade as fast. What do the
experts here think about it and which synthetic oil would they
recommend. Right now I use the same 5W-30 Castrol oil that Honda dealers
use.

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Old 25 Feb 2011, 07:36 pm
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"Cameo" <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:ik9dp4$bru$1@news.eternal-
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> The scheduled oil change intreval on my Accord calls for every 3,750
> miles or 3 months, whichever occurs first. Until recently it usually
> occured before 3 months but lately I drive a lot less and sometimes it
> takes even 5 months to get another 3,750 miles into my car. This causes
> a dilemma, because I also have some other maintenance items at every
> 7,500 miles, which would be normally at every other oil change. Since I
> still want to have only one oil change in midway of the 7,500 mile
> maintenance interval (i.e. at every 3,750 miles,) I am in conflict with
> the 3 month maximum interval. So I've been thinking of switching from
> natural oil to synthetic which would not degrade as fast. What do the
> experts here think about it and which synthetic oil would they
> recommend. Right now I use the same 5W-30 Castrol oil that Honda dealers
> use.
>



Where do you live? That's important.

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Old 26 Feb 2011, 02:52 pm
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"Tegger" <invalid@example.com> wrote in message
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> Where do you live? That's important.


US NW. Puget Sound.

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Old 26 Feb 2011, 03:29 pm
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"Cameo" <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:ikbp5p$ofh$1@news.eternal-
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> "Tegger" <invalid@example.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9E97D1B57CA09tegger@208.90.168.18...
>
>> Where do you live? That's important.

>
> US NW. Puget Sound.
>




I think you may be lookng at the "Severe" maintenance schedule.

Take another look through your Owner's Manual. I think you may find that
oil-change intervals for "Normal" use are longer than 3 months.

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Old 26 Feb 2011, 06:04 pm
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"Tegger" <invalid@example.com> wrote in message
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> I think you may be lookng at the "Severe" maintenance schedule.
>
> Take another look through your Owner's Manual. I think you may find
> that
> oil-change intervals for "Normal" use are longer than 3 months.


I've been doing this oil change at every 3,750 miles for such a long
time with the intervals shorter than 3 months that I never even bothered
to recheck this in my Owners Manual. Now I did and you're right. Again.
Thanks.

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Old 26 Feb 2011, 06:23 pm
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"Cameo" <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:ikc4en$nse$1@news.eternal-
september.org:

> "Tegger" <invalid@example.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9E98A7AAC13E6tegger@208.90.168.18...
>> I think you may be lookng at the "Severe" maintenance schedule.
>>
>> Take another look through your Owner's Manual. I think you may find
>> that
>> oil-change intervals for "Normal" use are longer than 3 months.

>
> I've been doing this oil change at every 3,750 miles for such a long
> time with the intervals shorter than 3 months that I never even bothered
> to recheck this in my Owners Manual. Now I did and you're right. Again.
> Thanks.
>
>




No harm done. Too-frequent oil changes are NEVER a bad thing! You've been
doing your Accord a /big/ favor by changing the oil as often as you have.


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Old 28 Feb 2011, 07:00 am
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"Cameo" <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> The scheduled oil change intreval on my Accord calls for every 3,750 miles
> or 3 months, whichever occurs first. Until recently it usually occured
> before 3 months but lately I drive a lot less and sometimes it takes even
> 5 months to get another 3,750 miles into my car. This causes a dilemma,
> because I also have some other maintenance items at every 7,500 miles,
> which would be normally at every other oil change. Since I still want to
> have only one oil change in midway of the 7,500 mile maintenance interval
> (i.e. at every 3,750 miles,) I am in conflict with the 3 month maximum
> interval. So I've been thinking of switching from natural oil to synthetic
> which would not degrade as fast. What do the experts here think about it
> and which synthetic oil would they recommend. Right now I use the same
> 5W-30 Castrol oil that Honda dealers use.


I see no reason to worry about the 3 month interval even using conventional
oil. I don't even understand why are you chaging oil at 3750 miles. That
seems like the severe service schedule and if you are in the US, it is
unlikely that you actually meet the requirements of that schedule. Honda
says the following:

Which Schedule to Follow:
Service your car according to the time and mileage periods on one of the
Maintenance Schedules on the following pages. Select the schedule for
"Severe Conditions" if most of your driving is done under one or more of the
conditions listed on that page. Otherwise, follow the schedule for "Normal
Conditions."

U.S. Owners
Follow the Normal Conditions Maintenance Schedule if the severe driving
conditions specified in the Severe Conditions Maintenance Schedule do not
apply.
NOTE: If you only OCCASIONALLY drive under a "severe" condition, you should
follow the Normal Conditions Maintenance Schedule.

Canadian Owners
Follow the Maintenance Schedule for Severe Conditions.

U.S. Owners
Follow the Severe Conditions Maintenance Schedule if you drive your vehicle
MAINLY under one or more of the following conditions:
Driving less than 5 miles (8 km) per trip or, in freezing temperatures,
driving less than 10 miles (16 km) per trip.
Driving in hot [over 90 F (32 C) conditions.]
Extensive idling or long periods of stop-and-go driving.
Driving with a roof-top carrier, or driving in mountainous conditions.
Driving on muddy, dusty, or de-iced roads.

Canadian Owners
Follow the Maintenance Schedule for Severe Conditions.

It seems to me that unless you are in Canada or Florida (and then only in
the summer) or you are using your Honda as a taxi, you probbaly don't need
to follow the severe sevice schedule. We are in North Carolina and my Sister
has owned two Hondas. She only ever used the normal service schedule (and
then only sparatically - often she forgot to change the oil on schedule) and
although both of her Honda were horrid piece of crap to drive after 150k
miles, neither had any engine problems. Changing oil more often than
necessary just wastes your money. Oil is much better than it used to be.
Fuel injection system are much better at maintaining the correct mixture and
this means that dilution of the oil with unburned fuel is much less of a
problem than in the past. Air filters are better, meaning less contamination
gets into the oil. Despite all of this, people still fall for the line about
needing to change oil every 3000 miles. To be honest I shocked that Honda
specifies the severe change schedule for Canada under all conditions. At
least for a few monthes each year Canada is hardly an ice box. Is there
really a lot of difference between Detroit and Windsor, or Seattle and
Victoria? And why in Europe does Honda allow for 12,500 mile oil changes for
similar engines?

Ed



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Old 28 Feb 2011, 07:03 am
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"Tegger" <invalid@example.com> wrote in message
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> "Cameo" <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:ikc4en$nse$1@news.eternal-
> september.org:
>
>> "Tegger" <invalid@example.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9E98A7AAC13E6tegger@208.90.168.18...
>>> I think you may be lookng at the "Severe" maintenance schedule.
>>>
>>> Take another look through your Owner's Manual. I think you may find
>>> that
>>> oil-change intervals for "Normal" use are longer than 3 months.

>>
>> I've been doing this oil change at every 3,750 miles for such a long
>> time with the intervals shorter than 3 months that I never even bothered
>> to recheck this in my Owners Manual. Now I did and you're right. Again.
>> Thanks.
>>
>>

>
>
>
> No harm done. Too-frequent oil changes are NEVER a bad thing! You've been
> doing your Accord a /big/ favor by changing the oil as often as you have.



Seems to be he has mostly been doing Castrol (BP) the big favor. I doubt
engine failure will be the reasion the car goes to it eventual resting
place, even if the normal maintenance schedule is followed.

Ed


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Old 28 Feb 2011, 02:05 pm
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Default Re: Switching to synthetic oil

"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I see no reason to worry about the 3 month interval even using
> conventional oil. I don't even understand why are you chaging oil at
> 3750 miles. That seems like the severe service schedule and if you are
> in the US, it is unlikely that you actually meet the requirements of
> that schedule. Honda says the following:
>
> Which Schedule to Follow:
> Service your car according to the time and mileage periods on one of
> the Maintenance Schedules on the following pages. Select the schedule
> for "Severe Conditions" if most of your driving is done under one or
> more of the conditions listed on that page. Otherwise, follow the
> schedule for "Normal Conditions."
>
> U.S. Owners
> Follow the Normal Conditions Maintenance Schedule if the severe
> driving conditions specified in the Severe Conditions Maintenance
> Schedule do not apply.
> NOTE: If you only OCCASIONALLY drive under a "severe" condition, you
> should follow the Normal Conditions Maintenance Schedule.
>
> Canadian Owners
> Follow the Maintenance Schedule for Severe Conditions.
>
> U.S. Owners
> Follow the Severe Conditions Maintenance Schedule if you drive your
> vehicle MAINLY under one or more of the following conditions:
> Driving less than 5 miles (8 km) per trip or, in freezing
> temperatures, driving less than 10 miles (16 km) per trip.
> Driving in hot [over 90 F (32 C) conditions.]
> Extensive idling or long periods of stop-and-go driving.
> Driving with a roof-top carrier, or driving in mountainous conditions.
> Driving on muddy, dusty, or de-iced roads.


This is my reason:
driving less than 10 miles (16 km) per trip

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Old 28 Feb 2011, 02:07 pm
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"Tegger" <invalid@example.com> wrote:
> No harm done. Too-frequent oil changes are NEVER a bad thing! You've
> been
> doing your Accord a /big/ favor by changing the oil as often as you
> have.


That may be one of the reason that the car is still running well and
with good milage approaching 300 K miles.

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