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Old 11 Feb 2011, 08:20 am
Boomer
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Default HID kits for Honda 98 CRV - Are they a good idea?

The price for these HID hi/lo kits has gotten very low. It looks like it is
not tough to do. I might make a good winter project in my garage while it is
10 below out and I can't work outside.

I would love to hear more comments about how well these Xenon headlights
work. I was considering getting the 35 watt 3000K (yellow) colour lights. I
did not want these lights to attract attention and possibly a ticket. So I
wanted the same colour as comes with halogen bulbs.

They claim that the bulbs last 3 times longer than halogen. Do they really?

I have gotten a lot older, 68 now, and my vision at night has degraded. The
brighter lights would help me see.

I added some low beam assists in the form of separate fog lights just below
my bumper. However, this turned out not to be such a great idea. The four
wheel drive allows me to plough through high snow, but this tends to damage
these fog lights. I need all the brightness I can get in my regular lights.
I want to remove the lower lights.

Michael

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Old 11 Feb 2011, 06:54 pm
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"Boomer" <Boomer@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:ZAb5p.667334$pX3.419413@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com:

> The price for these HID hi/lo kits has gotten very low. It looks like
> it is not tough to do. I might make a good winter project in my garage
> while it is 10 below out and I can't work outside.
>
> I would love to hear more comments about how well these Xenon
> headlights work.




Retrofitting HIDs to halogens is not a good idea. Headlamps are a whole
package: Bulb, lens, and reflectors must be designed to work together,
otherwise you will annoy and endanger oncoming traffic with excessive
glare.

The guru of automotive lighting says so.
<http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/HID.html>



> I was considering getting the 35 watt 3000K (yellow)
> colour lights.




Those are disgustingly glary. If you install these on your car, I will
personally come over to your house and shovel all the snow from your
lawn onto your driveway. Then I will tamp it down good and hard so you
can't get it off again.




> I did not want these lights to attract attention and
> possibly a ticket. So I wanted the same colour as comes with halogen
> bulbs.




Won't happen. HIDs are always different from halogen.


>
> They claim that the bulbs last 3 times longer than halogen. Do they
> really?





OEM Honda (Stanley) bulbs last ages, often the life of the car. GE
Nighthawks are close second.

Forget SilverStars and other fancy ephemera.



>
> I have gotten a lot older, 68 now, and my vision at night has
> degraded. The brighter lights would help me see.




Brighter lights will blind other drivers. Please think of them too.

If you (like me) find your eyes no longer as night-friendly as they used
to be, then slow down, and keep your lenses clean.



>
> I added some low beam assists in the form of separate fog lights just
> below my bumper. However, this turned out not to be such a great idea.
> The four wheel drive allows me to plough through high snow, but this
> tends to damage these fog lights. I need all the brightness I can get
> in my regular lights. I want to remove the lower lights.
>



Your fog lights are too low to provide proper illumination.

I recommend GE Nighthawks. You may have to ask for them at the parts
counter.


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Old 14 Feb 2011, 07:20 am
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Default Re: HID kits for Honda 98 CRV - Are they a good idea?

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 00:54:29 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <invalid@example.com>
wrote:

>"Boomer" <Boomer@nowhere.com> wrote in
>news:ZAb5p.667334$pX3.419413@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com:
>
>> The price for these HID hi/lo kits has gotten very low. It looks like
>> it is not tough to do. I might make a good winter project in my garage
>> while it is 10 below out and I can't work outside.
>>
>> I would love to hear more comments about how well these Xenon
>> headlights work.

>
>
>
>Retrofitting HIDs to halogens is not a good idea. Headlamps are a whole
>package: Bulb, lens, and reflectors must be designed to work together,
>otherwise you will annoy and endanger oncoming traffic with excessive
>glare.
>
>The guru of automotive lighting says so.
><http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/HID.html>
>
>
>
>> I was considering getting the 35 watt 3000K (yellow)
>> colour lights.

>
>
>
>Those are disgustingly glary. If you install these on your car, I will
>personally come over to your house and shovel all the snow from your
>lawn onto your driveway. Then I will tamp it down good and hard so you
>can't get it off again.
>
>
>
>
>> I did not want these lights to attract attention and
>> possibly a ticket. So I wanted the same colour as comes with halogen
>> bulbs.

>
>
>
>Won't happen. HIDs are always different from halogen.
>
>
>>
>> They claim that the bulbs last 3 times longer than halogen. Do they
>> really?

>
>
>
>
>OEM Honda (Stanley) bulbs last ages, often the life of the car. GE
>Nighthawks are close second.
>
>Forget SilverStars and other fancy ephemera.
>
>
>
>>
>> I have gotten a lot older, 68 now, and my vision at night has
>> degraded. The brighter lights would help me see.

>
>
>
>Brighter lights will blind other drivers. Please think of them too.
>
>If you (like me) find your eyes no longer as night-friendly as they used
>to be, then slow down, and keep your lenses clean.
>
>
>
>>
>> I added some low beam assists in the form of separate fog lights just
>> below my bumper. However, this turned out not to be such a great idea.
>> The four wheel drive allows me to plough through high snow, but this
>> tends to damage these fog lights. I need all the brightness I can get
>> in my regular lights. I want to remove the lower lights.
>>

>
>
>Your fog lights are too low to provide proper illumination.
>
>I recommend GE Nighthawks. You may have to ask for them at the parts
>counter.



I hate cars with fog lights. They almost always seem to point in my
face.
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Old 24 Feb 2011, 10:46 pm
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Default Re: HID kits for Honda 98 CRV - Are they a good idea?

Thus spake "Boomer" <Boomer@nowhere.com> :

>The price for these HID hi/lo kits has gotten very low. It looks like it is
>not tough to do. I might make a good winter project in my garage while it is
>10 below out and I can't work outside.
>
>I would love to hear more comments about how well these Xenon headlights
>work. I was considering getting the 35 watt 3000K (yellow) colour lights. I
>did not want these lights to attract attention and possibly a ticket. So I
>wanted the same colour as comes with halogen bulbs.
>
>They claim that the bulbs last 3 times longer than halogen. Do they really?
>
>I have gotten a lot older, 68 now, and my vision at night has degraded. The
>brighter lights would help me see.
>
>I added some low beam assists in the form of separate fog lights just below
>my bumper. However, this turned out not to be such a great idea. The four
>wheel drive allows me to plough through high snow, but this tends to damage
>these fog lights. I need all the brightness I can get in my regular lights.
>I want to remove the lower lights.


If you really want something to do a Rudolph for you, look into bullet
lights. The ones I've seen sit just inboard of the headlights on the
bumpe. One of the guys I used to AX with has some on his Acura and
claims "50, maybe 60 miles". :-) But it really looked like about
double regualr highs. I can't remember the exact wiring, but it
seemed to be somewhere between dead simple and easier to write a
check.

>
>Michael

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Old 25 Feb 2011, 06:42 am
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Default Re: HID kits for Honda 98 CRV - Are they a good idea?

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:46:26 -0600, Dillon Pyron
<invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote:

>Thus spake "Boomer" <Boomer@nowhere.com> :
>
>>The price for these HID hi/lo kits has gotten very low. It looks like it is
>>not tough to do. I might make a good winter project in my garage while it is
>>10 below out and I can't work outside.
>>
>>I would love to hear more comments about how well these Xenon headlights
>>work. I was considering getting the 35 watt 3000K (yellow) colour lights. I
>>did not want these lights to attract attention and possibly a ticket. So I
>>wanted the same colour as comes with halogen bulbs.
>>
>>They claim that the bulbs last 3 times longer than halogen. Do they really?
>>
>>I have gotten a lot older, 68 now, and my vision at night has degraded. The
>>brighter lights would help me see.
>>
>>I added some low beam assists in the form of separate fog lights just below
>>my bumper. However, this turned out not to be such a great idea. The four
>>wheel drive allows me to plough through high snow, but this tends to damage
>>these fog lights. I need all the brightness I can get in my regular lights.
>>I want to remove the lower lights.

>
>If you really want something to do a Rudolph for you, look into bullet
>lights. The ones I've seen sit just inboard of the headlights on the
>bumpe. One of the guys I used to AX with has some on his Acura and
>claims "50, maybe 60 miles". :-) But it really looked like about
>double regualr highs. I can't remember the exact wiring, but it
>seemed to be somewhere between dead simple and easier to write a
>check.
>
>>
>>Michael


Whoever uses lights like that should be strung up.
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Old 25 Feb 2011, 01:56 pm
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Clete <leclaij@halifax.ca> wrote in
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>
> Whoever uses lights like that should be strung up.




As I said to the OP, "Brighter lights will blind other drivers. Please
think of them too."

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Old 28 Feb 2011, 10:56 pm
Dillon Pyron
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Thus spake dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> :

>On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 00:54:29 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <invalid@example.com>
>wrote:
>
>>"Boomer" <Boomer@nowhere.com> wrote in
>>news:ZAb5p.667334$pX3.419413@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com:
>>
>>> The price for these HID hi/lo kits has gotten very low. It looks like
>>> it is not tough to do. I might make a good winter project in my garage
>>> while it is 10 below out and I can't work outside.
>>>
>>> I would love to hear more comments about how well these Xenon
>>> headlights work.

>>
>>
>>
>>Retrofitting HIDs to halogens is not a good idea. Headlamps are a whole
>>package: Bulb, lens, and reflectors must be designed to work together,
>>otherwise you will annoy and endanger oncoming traffic with excessive
>>glare.
>>
>>The guru of automotive lighting says so.
>><http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/HID.html>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I was considering getting the 35 watt 3000K (yellow)
>>> colour lights.

>>
>>
>>
>>Those are disgustingly glary. If you install these on your car, I will
>>personally come over to your house and shovel all the snow from your
>>lawn onto your driveway. Then I will tamp it down good and hard so you
>>can't get it off again.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I did not want these lights to attract attention and
>>> possibly a ticket. So I wanted the same colour as comes with halogen
>>> bulbs.

>>
>>
>>
>>Won't happen. HIDs are always different from halogen.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> They claim that the bulbs last 3 times longer than halogen. Do they
>>> really?

>>
>>
>>
>>
>>OEM Honda (Stanley) bulbs last ages, often the life of the car. GE
>>Nighthawks are close second.
>>
>>Forget SilverStars and other fancy ephemera.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I have gotten a lot older, 68 now, and my vision at night has
>>> degraded. The brighter lights would help me see.

>>
>>
>>
>>Brighter lights will blind other drivers. Please think of them too.
>>
>>If you (like me) find your eyes no longer as night-friendly as they used
>>to be, then slow down, and keep your lenses clean.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I added some low beam assists in the form of separate fog lights just
>>> below my bumper. However, this turned out not to be such a great idea.
>>> The four wheel drive allows me to plough through high snow, but this
>>> tends to damage these fog lights. I need all the brightness I can get
>>> in my regular lights. I want to remove the lower lights.
>>>

>>
>>
>>Your fog lights are too low to provide proper illumination.
>>
>>I recommend GE Nighthawks. You may have to ask for them at the parts
>>counter.

>
>
>I hate cars with fog lights. They almost always seem to point in my
>face.


They shouldn't. The whole idea of fogs is to keep the beam lowish so
you don't get as much backscatter. I checked mine before I posted
this. They sweep lower and the pax side really goes toward "the
ditch" while the driver's side is mostly forward. I actually find
them useful driving at twilgiht in the country around here. I'd
rather take a deer with a .270 than a Fit.
--

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Old 28 Feb 2011, 10:58 pm
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Default Re: HID kits for Honda 98 CRV - Are they a good idea?

Thus spake Tegger <invalid@example.com> :

>Clete <leclaij@halifax.ca> wrote in
>news:4s8fm6lv39np41qf9q2l1356n9tg8hblag@4ax.com :
>
>
>>
>> Whoever uses lights like that should be strung up.

>
>
>
>As I said to the OP, "Brighter lights will blind other drivers. Please
>think of them too."


Yeah, but these lights are used RATHER THAN highs. If you drive
around with your highs on all the time, you may find that a stone
cracked one of your lenses. I may have to whack the lens with the
stone several times.
--

- dillon I am not invalid

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Old 01 Mar 2011, 07:36 am
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:56:26 -0600, Dillon Pyron
<invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote:

>Thus spake dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> :
>
>...
>>>Your fog lights are too low to provide proper illumination.
>>>
>>>I recommend GE Nighthawks. You may have to ask for them at the parts
>>>counter.

>>
>>
>>I hate cars with fog lights. They almost always seem to point in my
>>face.

>
>They shouldn't. The whole idea of fogs is to keep the beam lowish so
>you don't get as much backscatter. I checked mine before I posted
>this. They sweep lower and the pax side really goes toward "the
>ditch" while the driver's side is mostly forward. I actually find
>them useful driving at twilgiht in the country around here. I'd
>rather take a deer with a .270 than a Fit.


Yes, they are supposed to have lowish beams, but from what I can tell,
most add-on kits are not properly installed.
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Old 03 Mar 2011, 03:08 pm
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"Dillon Pyron" wrote in message
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Thus spake Tegger <invalid@example.com> :

>Clete <leclaij@halifax.ca> wrote in
>news:4s8fm6lv39np41qf9q2l1356n9tg8hblag@4ax.com :
>
>
>>
>> Whoever uses lights like that should be strung up.

>
>
>
>As I said to the OP, "Brighter lights will blind other drivers. Please
>think of them too."


Yeah, but these lights are used RATHER THAN highs. If you drive
around with your highs on all the time, you may find that a stone
cracked one of your lenses. I may have to whack the lens with the
stone several times.
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- dillon I am not invalid

An object's desireability to a dog is directly
proportional to its desireability to another dog.
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Well I got my HID kit in and got it installed yesterday. The colour for the
light was 4300K. I took it out for a drive that night. The position of the
new bulbs had shifted slightly and the headlights were aimed a little high.
I turned them down today and will test them again tonight. I will keep
cranking on the "lower" bolt until my low beams have no chance of hitting a
driver in the eye.

The advertising for these HID lights are correct. You can see a lot further.
They are cheap and easy to install. I chose the 35 watt lights over the 55
watt option. My headlights now use less power than before the conversion.

For some reason that I don't understand, there is a rather sharp vertical
cut off point at the top of the beams now. It is quite apparent on the
garage wall and on the road.

I saw an admonition on an internet site that these bulbs would simply not
work properly in an incandescent reflector. That was bull****. Light is
light. It reflects at the same angle whether produced by incandescent
filaments or a gas discharge tube.

The kit I chose uses a solenoid to move the bulb into a low beam
configuration. The manufacturer thoughtfully made this transition rather
dramatic. Low beam has quite an angle change in vertical beam direction.

I still have my fog lights attached and they appear to be completely
overwhelmed by the headlights now. The colour is quite different so it is
easy to differentiate between the two. I will soon remove these fog lights.

So for those who need more illumination on country roads as exist where I
live, this conversion might be worth considering especially if you must deal
with lots of snow.

Michael
(seeing better now)

PS since I know longer have stock lights, I will buy another kit for spares.
This will give me spare lights and ballasts.

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