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Old 11 Oct 2005, 11:33 pm
Reginald Prat-Jones
 
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Default Any chance for a 4 cylinder hybrid Accord?

The 4 cylinder Accord is fast enough for me. I was hoping for a hybrid
that can get 40 to 50 mpg. I think the hybrid companies should stop
tuning for speed and go for max fuel economy with decent acceleration.

Any chance the diesel Accord might come to America? What is the gas
mieage in U.S gallons? I know in UK Imperial gallons which are about
20% more it gets something like 54 mpg.

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Old 11 Oct 2005, 11:43 pm
John Horner
 
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Default Re: Any chance for a 4 cylinder hybrid Accord?

Reginald Prat-Jones wrote:
> The 4 cylinder Accord is fast enough for me. I was hoping for a hybrid
> that can get 40 to 50 mpg. I think the hybrid companies should stop
> tuning for speed and go for max fuel economy with decent acceleration.
>
> Any chance the diesel Accord might come to America? What is the gas
> mieage in U.S gallons? I know in UK Imperial gallons which are about
> 20% more it gets something like 54 mpg.
>


Maybe after 2007 when in theory we finally will get low sulfer diesel
fuel in the US. For most applications a diesel will be much more cost
effective than a hybrid.

John
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Old 12 Oct 2005, 02:53 pm
Richard Townsend
 
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Default Re: Any chance for a 4 cylinder hybrid Accord?

On 11 Oct 2005 21:33:19 -0700, Reginald Prat-Jones wrote:

> Any chance the diesel Accord might come to America? What is the gas
> mieage in U.S gallons? I know in UK Imperial gallons which are about
> 20% more it gets something like 54 mpg.


I've had my 2005 Accord i-CDTi 2.2 for just over a month and have done
approx 1600 miles. I'm getting 46 to 48 mpg (UK imperial).

I think you would have to drive very carefully to average 54 mpg in the
real world!

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Old 12 Oct 2005, 08:53 pm
Reginald Prat-Jones
 
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Default Re: Any chance for a 4 cylinder hybrid Accord?

Any idea what that would be in U.S. gallons? I heard the UK Imperial
is about 20% more?

46-48 mpg (UK) x 0.80???? = or 36.8 to 38.4 mpg (US)???

Pretty good mileage for a good sized car. The mid size diesel Merc we
can get in the States now gets about the same mileage

My guess is as you break in the engine, your fuel mileage should go up
a bit. I always heard that brand new engines get lower fuel mileage
until they get over 4,000 or so miles. Maybe that is a myth.

How do like it? How is the acceleration?

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Old 12 Oct 2005, 10:33 pm
Doug McCrary
 
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Default Re: Any chance for a 4 cylinder hybrid Accord?


Reginald Prat-Jones <x007member@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1129168399.293661.282200@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> Any idea what that would be in U.S. gallons? I heard the UK Imperial
> is about 20% more?
>
> 46-48 mpg (UK) x 0.80???? = or 36.8 to 38.4 mpg (US)???
>
> Pretty good mileage for a good sized car. The mid size diesel Merc we
> can get in the States now gets about the same mileage
>
> My guess is as you break in the engine, your fuel mileage should go up
> a bit. I always heard that brand new engines get lower fuel mileage
> until they get over 4,000 or so miles. Maybe that is a myth.
>

FWIW, I tracked the mileage on a Ford Escort Pony from day one to nearly death.
It steadily increased (sorry, the numbers died with a disk drive that I may
still be able to resurrect) through 40k miles.
Stayed steady for about 10K then declined slowly til I stopped tracking around
120K. Was still better than new IIRC.
My son and then daughter killed it at 144 by neglect.


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Old 13 Oct 2005, 07:53 am
Jez
 
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Default Re: Any chance for a 4 cylinder hybrid Accord?

Reginald Prat-Jones wrote:
> Any idea what that would be in U.S. gallons? I heard the UK Imperial
> is about 20% more?
>
> 46-48 mpg (UK) x 0.80???? = or 36.8 to 38.4 mpg (US)???
>
> Pretty good mileage for a good sized car. The mid size diesel Merc we
> can get in the States now gets about the same mileage
>
> My guess is as you break in the engine, your fuel mileage should go up
> a bit. I always heard that brand new engines get lower fuel mileage
> until they get over 4,000 or so miles. Maybe that is a myth.
>
> How do like it? How is the acceleration?
>


Litres in US = 3.78, UK = 4.54
Multiply the UK mpg by 0.83 to get US. 46mpg (UK) = 38mpg (US)

OT: Miles per gallon is an outdated and ambiguous measurement. A
standard (e.g. litres/100km) should be adopted worldwide.
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Old 13 Oct 2005, 08:01 am
High Tech Misfit
 
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Default Re: Any chance for a 4 cylinder hybrid Accord?

Jez wrote:

> Litres in US = 3.78, UK = 4.54
> Multiply the UK mpg by 0.83 to get US. 46mpg (UK) = 38mpg (US)
>
> OT: Miles per gallon is an outdated and ambiguous measurement. A
> standard (e.g. litres/100km) should be adopted worldwide.


I am in Canada, where litres/100km is used. And I think it's a downright
stupid measurement. km/litre would be better, but I'll stick to mpg, thank
you very much.
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Old 13 Oct 2005, 08:16 am
Brian Smith
 
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"Jez" <jeremy@ainsworth.me.uk> wrote in message
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>
> OT: Miles per gallon is an outdated and ambiguous measurement. A standard
> (e.g. litres/100km) should be adopted worldwide.


That's a crock! Being able to see at a glance how many miles I can travel is
a lot easier than having to think about the conversion to a useless Metric
measurement.

Brian


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Old 13 Oct 2005, 08:17 am
Brian Smith
 
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"High Tech Misfit" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
> I am in Canada, where litres/100km is used. And I think it's a downright
> stupid measurement. km/litre would be better, but I'll stick to mpg,
> thank
> you very much.


I agree, mpg is a much easier measure to use.


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Old 13 Oct 2005, 12:46 pm
Richard Townsend
 
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Default Re: Any chance for a 4 cylinder hybrid Accord?

On 12 Oct 2005 18:53:19 -0700, Reginald Prat-Jones wrote:

> Any idea what that would be in U.S. gallons? I heard the UK Imperial
> is about 20% more?
>
> 46-48 mpg (UK) x 0.80???? = or 36.8 to 38.4 mpg (US)???
>
> Pretty good mileage for a good sized car. The mid size diesel Merc we
> can get in the States now gets about the same mileage
>
> My guess is as you break in the engine, your fuel mileage should go up
> a bit. I always heard that brand new engines get lower fuel mileage
> until they get over 4,000 or so miles. Maybe that is a myth.


The fuel consumption is about what I was expecting, if it does improve over
the next few thousand miles that will be a bonus

>
> How do like it? How is the acceleration?


I'm very pleased with the car. The acceleration is very smooth and
progressive allowing easy & safe overtaking. It also pulls cleanly from low
revs for example 1200 - 1500 rpm in third gear meaning you have to change
gear less often in slow town traffic.

The ride is also very good - not too soft so it doesn't roll much going
round corners yet not so firm that it becomes uncomfortable.

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