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Old 11 Jan 2011, 04:35 pm
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I'm in Canada and I've just replaced my 1992 Accord EX-R with a 2001 Accord
EX-L. The old car is probably going to the wrecker since I don't expect to
be able to sell it due to pretty bad rust.

Is there any way to tell if the rims from my old car will fit on the new car
without actually trying it? My mechanic told me that even though both are
4-bolt rims, the inside surface of the old car's rims may be different than
the inside surface of the rims on the new car and that the old rims may not
go onto the new car as a result. I don't particularly want to try that
because I have no garage and it is miserably cold outside and likely will be
until April....

Also are there any other parts you'd suggest scavenging from the old car to
possibly reuse with the newer car? I am *not* terribly handy with cars and
storage space is limited so I don't think scavenging the engine,
transmission, etc. are realistic options ;-)

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Old 12 Jan 2011, 05:49 am
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"Rhino" <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> wrote in
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> I'm in Canada and I've just replaced my 1992 Accord EX-R with a 2001
> Accord EX-L. The old car is probably going to the wrecker since I
> don't expect to be able to sell it due to pretty bad rust.
>
> Is there any way to tell if the rims from my old car will fit on the
> new car without actually trying it? My mechanic told me that even
> though both are 4-bolt rims, the inside surface of the old car's rims
> may be different than the inside surface of the rims on the new car
> and that the old rims may not go onto the new car as a result.




They're "wheels", not "rims". Wheels HAVE rims, which is how the tire
stays put.

Chances are good that the overall wheel diameters and width are
different between the '92 and '01. What's the tire size indicated on
both sets?

The problem is primarily twofold:
1) the wheels themselves are probably a smaller diameter, which means
there would likely be insufficient room for the '01's brakes inside the
wheel.
2) the "offset" is probably different between the two. "Offset" is the
shift of the centerline between the two wheel rims relative to the hub
surface. Wrong offsets put unusual stress on your wheel bearings and
your steering system, leading to accelerated failure of both.

Basically, you need to measure three things:
1) overall wheel diameter (edge to edge) and width (rim to rim). The
wheel will have a notation somewhere on it, like "6JJ", or "5½JJ". This
tells you the width between the rims in inches. The diameter can be told
from the tire size.
2) Find or make a straightedge that goes from one edge to the other of
the outer rim, and measure the distance from the straightedge to the hub
surface. Remove one of the wheel nuts so you can stick a straightened
coat-hanger wire or such all the way through to the hub surface (as your
measuring gauge).
3) the distance between opposite wheel bolts.

If ANY of the three are different, it's unwise (or impossible in the
case of the bolt pattern) to use the old wheels on the new car if you're
interested in maximum reliability and durability.





> I don't
> particularly want to try that because I have no garage and it is
> miserably cold outside and likely will be until April....
>
> Also are there any other parts you'd suggest scavenging from the old
> car to possibly reuse with the newer car? I am *not* terribly handy
> with cars and storage space is limited so I don't think scavenging the
> engine, transmission, etc. are realistic options ;-)




Chances are excellent that not a single easily-salvageable part will be
reusable from the '92 to the '01.



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Old 12 Jan 2011, 06:27 am
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They are exactly the same. Check for yourself.

www.adaptitusa.com/referencebook.htm
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Old 12 Jan 2011, 06:46 am
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Clete <leclaij@halifax.ca> wrote in
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> They are exactly the same. Check for yourself.
>
> www.adaptitusa.com/referencebook.htm
>




That page does not give diameter, rim width, or offset, only the dimensions
relating to the hub area.

From that page, you'd conclude that the wheels for the Civic and Integra
are the same, but they are not: The offset is different between the two.

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Old 12 Jan 2011, 07:09 am
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 12:46:09 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <invalid@example.com>
wrote:

>Clete <leclaij@halifax.ca> wrote in
>news:ce7ri6to00sj4v9f2psi1idq87al560cqr@4ax.com :
>
>> They are exactly the same. Check for yourself.
>>
>> www.adaptitusa.com/referencebook.htm
>>

>
>
>
>That page does not give diameter, rim width, or offset, only the dimensions
>relating to the hub area.
>
>From that page, you'd conclude that the wheels for the Civic and Integra
>are the same, but they are not: The offset is different between the two.



I think he will be fine

http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse...._Reference.cfm
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Old 12 Jan 2011, 07:59 am
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Clete <leclaij@halifax.ca> wrote in
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> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 12:46:09 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <invalid@example.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Clete <leclaij@halifax.ca> wrote in
>>news:ce7ri6to00sj4v9f2psi1idq87al560cqr@4ax.co m:
>>
>>> They are exactly the same. Check for yourself.
>>>
>>> www.adaptitusa.com/referencebook.htm
>>>

>>
>>
>>
>>That page does not give diameter, rim width, or offset, only the
>>dimensions relating to the hub area.
>>
>>From that page, you'd conclude that the wheels for the Civic and
>>Integra are the same, but they are not: The offset is different
>>between the two.

>
>
> I think he will be fine
>
> http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse....olt_Pattern_Re
> ference.cfm
>




Not so sure.

I see the '90-'96 is 14x6, and 98+ is 15x6. It's unlikely his '01's brakes
will fit inside a 14" wheel.

OP would be wisest to measure as I originally suggested.


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Old 12 Jan 2011, 08:05 am
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 13:59:41 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <invalid@example.com>
wrote:

>Clete <leclaij@halifax.ca> wrote in
>news:mv9ri6h6rvmgcqd2srdqg7pb15tlnobp25@4ax.com :
>
>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 12:46:09 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <invalid@example.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Clete <leclaij@halifax.ca> wrote in
>>>news:ce7ri6to00sj4v9f2psi1idq87al560cqr@4ax.com :
>>>
>>>> They are exactly the same. Check for yourself.
>>>>
>>>> www.adaptitusa.com/referencebook.htm
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>That page does not give diameter, rim width, or offset, only the
>>>dimensions relating to the hub area.
>>>
>>>From that page, you'd conclude that the wheels for the Civic and
>>>Integra are the same, but they are not: The offset is different
>>>between the two.

>>
>>
>> I think he will be fine
>>
>> http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse....olt_Pattern_Re
>> ference.cfm
>>

>
>
>
>Not so sure.
>
>I see the '90-'96 is 14x6, and 98+ is 15x6. It's unlikely his '01's brakes
>will fit inside a 14" wheel.
>
>OP would be wisest to measure as I originally suggested.



The 92 EX which the OP had is 15x6.
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Old 12 Jan 2011, 01:14 pm
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Clete <leclaij@halifax.ca> wrote in
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> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 13:59:41 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <invalid@example.com>
> wrote:


>>
>>I see the '90-'96 is 14x6, and 98+ is 15x6. It's unlikely his '01's
>>brakes will fit inside a 14" wheel.
>>
>>OP would be wisest to measure as I originally suggested.

>
>
> The 92 EX which the OP had is 15x6.
>



Yep, you're right. I missed that. But unless the OP knows for certain that
the wheels are original to the car, he'd be wise to at least double-check
the diameter and width.

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Old 12 Jan 2011, 01:49 pm
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Tegger wrote:
> Clete <leclaij@halifax.ca> wrote in
> news:g7dri6tqmun8ouldh9cvuhmp25kthur1uv@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 13:59:41 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <invalid@example.com>
>> wrote:

>
>>> I see the '90-'96 is 14x6, and 98+ is 15x6. It's unlikely his '01's
>>> brakes will fit inside a 14" wheel.
>>>
>>> OP would be wisest to measure as I originally suggested.

>>
>> The 92 EX which the OP had is 15x6.
>>

>
>
> Yep, you're right. I missed that. But unless the OP knows for certain that
> the wheels are original to the car, he'd be wise to at least double-check
> the diameter and width.
>




Hell, all he has to do is bundle up and jack up both cars and switch a
wheel to see if it fits...

Or are you Canadians too woosie for that?

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Old 12 Jan 2011, 01:55 pm
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Grumpy AuContraire <GrumpyOne@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in
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>>

>
>
>
> Hell, all he has to do is bundle up and jack up both cars and switch a
> wheel to see if it fits...




And work in the wet, messy, cold snow while the car drips all over you and
your tools. Ugh.


>
> Or are you Canadians too woosie for that?
>



It's a major pain unless you have a garage, that's for sure.

I avoid any sort of work in the winter except for oil changes. Everything
gets done before the weather turns cold (it's a balmy 15F as I type).
Winter weather is the big reason I do so much preventive maintenance when
the weather is good. That way I'm reasonably assured that nothing will go
wrong while the weather is unpleasant.


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