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I have a 2003 Accord V-6, manual transmission, that just turned over 30,000
miles, and the brakes are terrible. I am taking it in next week for rotor work, and this will be the third time the rotors have been machined. And, to add insult to injury, I have to pay for it. Honda says they will only machine them twice under warranty. Plus, the lights in my radio went out, and the passenger side door luck is not working. This is my fourth Honda, and I have never had this kind of bad luck before. I hope this is not the beginning of more problems. Steve |
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Steve Hawkins wrote:
> I have a 2003 Accord V-6, manual transmission, that just turned over 30,000 > miles, and the brakes are terrible. I am taking it in next week for rotor > work, and this will be the third time the rotors have been machined. And, to > add insult to injury, I have to pay for it. Honda says they will only > machine them twice under warranty. suggest you try a different shop. seriously. i've been to places where the car's fine before it goes in, and comes out with brakes shuddering like sob's. all they did was remove wheels for a visual inspection. the reason for the problem is that the hub & rotor assembly on the honda is relatively light weight [a good thing], but it means it can elastically distort if the wheel's not fitted right. when the wheel is re-attached, it needs to be torqued in a two-stage [or more] process, 1324, 1324 for bolt sequence, with the wheel off the ground for at least the first torque stage. in my case, simply removing & re-torquing the wheels makes the problem disappear again, but this may not happen for you because if the disks have already been machined twice, they're getting thin and are much more likely to have alignment errors each time they go to the cutting machine. for the future, do /not/ allow anyone to machine your disks unless they're badly scored, especially not for a 30k mile car. it simply shows they're "one remedy cures all" thinkers that don't know what they're doing. if the disks /do/ need machining, consider replacement instead. online, good quality brembo disks are about $50 each. go to tegger.com and check out his excellent guide on how to do this simple job yourself. or find a good independent honda specialist. > Plus, the lights in my radio went out, > and the passenger side door luck is not working. This is my fourth Honda, > and I have never had this kind of bad luck before. I hope this is not the > beginning of more problems. > > Steve > > |
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Steve Hawkins wrote:
> I have a 2003 Accord V-6, manual transmission, that just turned over 30,000 > miles, and the brakes are terrible. I am taking it in next week for rotor > work, and this will be the third time the rotors have been machined. And, to > add insult to injury, I have to pay for it. Honda says they will only > machine them twice under warranty. Plus, the lights in my radio went out, > and the passenger side door luck is not working. This is my fourth Honda, > and I have never had this kind of bad luck before. I hope this is not the > beginning of more problems. > > Steve > > I had to replace the front rotors on my '03 Accord after one attempt at turning them. On mine it seemed that there was some kind of residual stress left when they were manufactured and the rotors would rapidly warp again after being turned. I put new Raybestos brand rotors on mine and it cured the problem. Overall I have not been impressed with the quality of my Honda. Rattles have never been fixed, transmission replaced under warranty, brake problems, etc. Honda has not lived up to it's reputation in the case of my car. John |
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John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:6A2Ye.7670$nV1.2934@trnddc06: <snip> > > I had to replace the front rotors on my '03 Accord after one attempt > at turning them. On mine it seemed that there was some kind of > residual stress left when they were manufactured and the rotors would > rapidly warp again after being turned. That's not a usual situation. you probably had defective parts. <snip> > > Overall I have not been impressed with the quality of my Honda. > Rattles have never been fixed, Typical of most cars these days. And it'll get worse. > transmission replaced under warranty, That's a bad one. Honda has lost probably millions fixing those. > brake problems, etc. Honda brakes are fragile and require much servicing to keep at their peak. I have had worse experiences with aftermarket, since the design is still the same. > > Honda has not lived up to it's reputation in the case of my car. I'm not sure I'd buy another Honda again, actually. My '91 'Teg impresses me more than the new offerings. And now Honda wants to stuff every car with even more airbags /and/ ABS, no matter how low-priced the model. Where's the money gonna come from? They can't just raise the price to pay for it all, they've got to cheapen the rest of the car. NOT good. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
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"Steve Hawkins" <shawkins@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
news:u5PWe.11448$ib1.1810@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. . >I have a 2003 Accord V-6, manual transmission, that just turned over 30,000 >miles, and the brakes are terrible. I am taking it in next week for rotor >work, and this will be the third time the rotors have been machined. And, >to add insult to injury, I have to pay for it. Honda says they will only >machine them twice under warranty. Plus, the lights in my radio went out, >and the passenger side door luck is not working. This is my fourth Honda, > and I have never had this kind of bad luck before. I hope this is not the > beginning of more problems. > > Steve > Frankly, I'm not optimistic. Volvo went through a similar period in the early '90s and hasn't produced a reliable car since. People who bought the '93 Volvo 850 could expect to replace the transmission ($3000) and the A/C evaporator ($2000) at their own expense within 5 years. Failing to rev the engine regularly led to sticking and burned valves ($1000). It was Volvo's first FWD car and their first computer controlled car - there were many problems with the door locking system developing a mind of its own. Sheesh. We can hope Honda gets back on track. Mike |
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John Horner wrote:
> Overall I have not been impressed with the quality of my Honda. Rattles > have never been fixed, transmission replaced under warranty, brake > problems, etc. > > Honda has not lived up to it's reputation in the case of my car. The fact that Honda extended the warranty on V6 4-speed automatics and issued a recall for 5-speed automatics is reason to believe that Honda has lived up to its reputation. At least they acknowledge major problems like this and work to fix them. You cannot say that for some Fords and Crapslers that have higher rates of tranny failure than Honda. As for the rattles, you can thank the environmental pussies who convinced the governments to mandate a bunch of regulations to satisfy their tree-hugging needs--among them, the use of hard plastics. I know people with some newer Toyotas and Fords that have these rattles and squeaks too. Just be thankful that it won't leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere like a Ford or Crapsler. |
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"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
news:bqednQPf5pZD-qzeRVn-hQ@sedona.net: <snip> > It was Volvo's first FWD car and their first computer > controlled car - there were many problems with the door locking system > developing a mind of its own. Sheesh. > > We can hope Honda gets back on track. > Honda has one advantage: It's not owned by Ford... -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
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Michael Pardee wrote:
> > Frankly, I'm not optimistic. Volvo went through a similar period in the > early '90s and hasn't produced a reliable car since. People who bought the > '93 Volvo 850 could expect to replace the transmission ($3000) and the A/C > evaporator ($2000) at their own expense within 5 years. Failing to rev the > engine regularly led to sticking and burned valves ($1000). It was Volvo's > first FWD car and their first computer controlled car - there were many > problems with the door locking system developing a mind of its own. Sheesh. > > We can hope Honda gets back on track. > > Mike > > LOL, I had a '96 Volvo 850 which I replaced with the Honda in part because I was hoping for a more reliable car. So far at 38,000 miles my '03 Accord has had far more problems than the '96 Volvo had by the same point in it's life! John |
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TeGGeR® wrote:
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in > news:bqednQPf5pZD-qzeRVn-hQ@sedona.net: > > <snip> > >>It was Volvo's first FWD car and their first computer >>controlled car - there were many problems with the door locking system >>developing a mind of its own. Sheesh. >> >>We can hope Honda gets back on track. >> > > > > Honda has one advantage: It's not owned by Ford... > > Volvo's problems predate the Ford purchase, and it is still beside the point. Recent Hondas do not exhibit the "bulletproof" reliability which all of the press still attributest to them. John |
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High Tech Misfit wrote:
> As for the rattles, you can thank the environmental pussies who convinced > the governments to mandate a bunch of regulations to satisfy their > tree-hugging needs--among them, the use of hard plastics. BS. Recently I drove my friend's 30,000 mile '04 Chevy Impala and it is as quiet as you could hope for. Not all modern vehicles rattle like crazy. I have fixed some of the problems with my Honda myself and it is always a matter of assemble-it-like-a-Mattel-toy construction. Stop blaming environmental laws for everything. John |
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