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Old 10 Sep 2005, 05:32 pm
Jenny
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Default My '05 Civic seems to use 'too much' oil.

Hello.

My '05 Civic 4 cylinder seems to have used 1/2 quart of oil withiin
4,000 miles.

Is this normal? I tend to think it's not.
I bought the car with 6 miles on it!

The dealer says to stop by, get some Honda's oil to add, and they'll
see it in another 1000 miles (my first service check up/oil change,
etc).

Has any other '05 Civic owner experienced this amount of oil loss, in
so little miles?

What's the likelihood that the oil was never topped off, in the first
place, and it's possible I didn't use any oil, in the 4K miles?
My neighbor has an '04 Accord 4 cylinder, and says his doesn't use
that much, in 5000 miles.

Should I be concerned, at this time?

Jenny
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Old 10 Sep 2005, 05:44 pm
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Default Re: My '05 Civic seems to use 'too much' oil.

Jenny wrote:
> Hello.
>
> My '05 Civic 4 cylinder seems to have used 1/2 quart of oil withiin
> 4,000 miles.
>
> Is this normal? I tend to think it's not.
> I bought the car with 6 miles on it!
>
> The dealer says to stop by, get some Honda's oil to add, and they'll
> see it in another 1000 miles (my first service check up/oil change,
> etc).
>
> Has any other '05 Civic owner experienced this amount of oil loss, in
> so little miles?
>
> What's the likelihood that the oil was never topped off, in the first
> place, and it's possible I didn't use any oil, in the 4K miles?
> My neighbor has an '04 Accord 4 cylinder, and says his doesn't use
> that much, in 5000 miles.
>
> Should I be concerned, at this time?
>
> Jenny


don't be concerned yet. if the problem persists, then worry about it.
with a new engine, when the rings have not yet seated & sealed, it's
common to burn a little oil. also, check the level first thing in the
morning when cold. it takes a while for oil to run down to the oil pan
if it's been used so checking the level right after use is not always
too accurate.

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Old 10 Sep 2005, 05:54 pm
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Default Re: My '05 Civic seems to use 'too much' oil.

What specifically is the evidence that 1/2 quart was used? Did you actually
take _two_ dipstick readings, one at the start of the 4k miles, the other at
the end?

It is possible the car didn't consume any significant amount of oil during
this time, because it wasn't "topped" off at the last change or upon
delivery to you, when new.

Any oil spots on your garage floor, indicating the drain bolt or oil filter
maybe wasn't fully tightened?


"Jenny" <harley.davidson@mailcity.com> wrote
> Hello.
>
> My '05 Civic 4 cylinder seems to have used 1/2 quart of oil withiin
> 4,000 miles.
>
> Is this normal? I tend to think it's not.
> I bought the car with 6 miles on it!
>
> The dealer says to stop by, get some Honda's oil to add, and they'll
> see it in another 1000 miles (my first service check up/oil change,
> etc).
>
> Has any other '05 Civic owner experienced this amount of oil loss, in
> so little miles?
>
> What's the likelihood that the oil was never topped off, in the first
> place, and it's possible I didn't use any oil, in the 4K miles?
> My neighbor has an '04 Accord 4 cylinder, and says his doesn't use
> that much, in 5000 miles.
>
> Should I be concerned, at this time?
>
> Jenny



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Old 10 Sep 2005, 06:42 pm
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Default Re: My '05 Civic seems to use 'too much' oil.

You bought a new car and never checked the oil in 4000
miles???????????????????


"Jenny" <harley.davidson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:43235dd5.9840031@news.west.earthlink.net...
> Hello.
>
> My '05 Civic 4 cylinder seems to have used 1/2 quart of oil withiin
> 4,000 miles.
>
> Is this normal? I tend to think it's not.
> I bought the car with 6 miles on it!
>
> The dealer says to stop by, get some Honda's oil to add, and they'll
> see it in another 1000 miles (my first service check up/oil change,
> etc).
>
> Has any other '05 Civic owner experienced this amount of oil loss, in
> so little miles?
>
> What's the likelihood that the oil was never topped off, in the first
> place, and it's possible I didn't use any oil, in the 4K miles?
> My neighbor has an '04 Accord 4 cylinder, and says his doesn't use
> that much, in 5000 miles.
>
> Should I be concerned, at this time?
>
> Jenny



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Old 10 Sep 2005, 08:58 pm
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Default Re: My '05 Civic seems to use 'too much' oil.


"Jenny" <harley.davidson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:43235dd5.9840031@news.west.earthlink.net...
> Hello.
>
> My '05 Civic 4 cylinder seems to have used 1/2 quart of oil withiin
> 4,000 miles.
>
> Is this normal? I tend to think it's not.
> I bought the car with 6 miles on it!
>
> The dealer says to stop by, get some Honda's oil to add, and they'll
> see it in another 1000 miles (my first service check up/oil change,
> etc).
>
> Has any other '05 Civic owner experienced this amount of oil loss, in
> so little miles?
>
> What's the likelihood that the oil was never topped off, in the first
> place, and it's possible I didn't use any oil, in the 4K miles?
> My neighbor has an '04 Accord 4 cylinder, and says his doesn't use
> that much, in 5000 miles.
>
> Should I be concerned, at this time?
>
> Jenny


Don't be worried yet, but keep a close eye on it. Definitely check each time
you put gas in - you should anyway, you know.

There have been a few reports in the last few years of new Hondas suddenly
consuming oil. When it has been tracked down, the only cause I've heard of
is a broken piston ring - at least two cases of that. Break-in should be far
enough along that you won't see much oil consumption now if all is normal.

Mike


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Old 11 Sep 2005, 02:24 am
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Default Re: My '05 Civic seems to use 'too much' oil.

Jenny wrote:
> Hello.
>
> My '05 Civic 4 cylinder seems to have used 1/2 quart of oil withiin
> 4,000 miles.
>
> Is this normal? I tend to think it's not.
> I bought the car with 6 miles on it!
>
> The dealer says to stop by, get some Honda's oil to add, and they'll
> see it in another 1000 miles (my first service check up/oil change,
> etc).
>
> Has any other '05 Civic owner experienced this amount of oil loss, in
> so little miles?
>
> What's the likelihood that the oil was never topped off, in the first
> place, and it's possible I didn't use any oil, in the 4K miles?
> My neighbor has an '04 Accord 4 cylinder, and says his doesn't use
> that much, in 5000 miles.
>
> Should I be concerned, at this time?
>
> Jenny



Any signs of leakage? My sister-in-law's '05 Civic needed a new engine
at 3,500 miles due to a freak leaking engine block.

John
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Old 11 Sep 2005, 07:48 am
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Default Re: My '05 Civic seems to use 'too much' oil.


"Jenny" <harley.davidson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:43235dd5.9840031@news.west.earthlink.net...
> Hello.
>
> My '05 Civic 4 cylinder seems to have used 1/2 quart of oil withiin
> 4,000 miles.
>
> Is this normal? I tend to think it's not.
> I bought the car with 6 miles on it!
>
> The dealer says to stop by, get some Honda's oil to add, and they'll
> see it in another 1000 miles (my first service check up/oil change,
> etc).
>
> Has any other '05 Civic owner experienced this amount of oil loss, in
> so little miles?
>
> What's the likelihood that the oil was never topped off, in the first
> place, and it's possible I didn't use any oil, in the 4K miles?
> My neighbor has an '04 Accord 4 cylinder, and says his doesn't use
> that much, in 5000 miles.
>
> Should I be concerned, at this time?
>
> Jenny

Your oil usage is not excessive. If you use a quart in 1000-1500 miles I
would say you have a problem. Some cars just use oil. Preludes use a quart
anywhere from 1500 to 3500 miles -- just because of the design of the
engine. An XKE I had in the mid 60s would use a quart every 300 miles or
so.


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Old 11 Sep 2005, 08:16 am
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Default Re: My '05 Civic seems to use 'too much' oil.

harley.davidson@mailcity.com (Jenny) wrote in
news:43235dd5.9840031@news.west.earthlink.net:

> Hello.
>
> My '05 Civic 4 cylinder seems to have used 1/2 quart of oil withiin
> 4,000 miles.
>
> Is this normal? I tend to think it's not.




It is.

You'll notice your gas mileage is not nearly what you think it should be
either. There is a range of acceptable oil use, and you are /well/ within
that. 8,000 miles per quart is excellent for only 4K miles on the clock.
And it'll get even better as the engine wears in.

At thi point, your rings are still bedding in and the final cylinder finish
is still forming. You even have special break-in oil in there that is
designed to aid the break-in process.

The most important thing you can do right now is to perform all services
(especially oil changes) exactly as specified in your owner's manual, and
NOT to change the oil for the first time until precisely as specifed (and
especially not too early!)

Approaching about 8,000-10,000 miles your oil usage will decline even more,
and your gas mileage will reach its final level.

Enjoy your new Honda.


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Old 11 Sep 2005, 09:39 am
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Default Re: My '05 Civic seems to use 'too much' oil.

If you "feel" your engine is consuming too much oil. Then request the
dealer perform an oil consumption test. (It's all spelled out in Honda's
service ops manual or HSB 82-003.)

When you pick your car up from this oil and filter change. Ask the
service manager or the Tech to show you the correct way to check the oil.
Your job then, is to check the oil at each fill-up, until a quart of oil
is consumed or the test mileage is achieved.


Jenny wrote:

> Hello.
>
> My '05 Civic 4 cylinder seems to have used 1/2 quart of oil withiin
> 4,000 miles.
>
> Is this normal? I tend to think it's not.
> I bought the car with 6 miles on it!
>
> The dealer says to stop by, get some Honda's oil to add, and they'll
> see it in another 1000 miles (my first service check up/oil change,
> etc).
>
> Has any other '05 Civic owner experienced this amount of oil loss, in
> so little miles?
>
> What's the likelihood that the oil was never topped off, in the first
> place, and it's possible I didn't use any oil, in the 4K miles?
> My neighbor has an '04 Accord 4 cylinder, and says his doesn't use
> that much, in 5000 miles.
>
> Should I be concerned, at this time?
>
> Jenny


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Old 12 Sep 2005, 05:38 pm
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"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns96CE5E7523569tegger@207.14.113.17...
> harley.davidson@mailcity.com (Jenny) wrote in
> news:43235dd5.9840031@news.west.earthlink.net:
>
> > Hello.
> >
> > My '05 Civic 4 cylinder seems to have used 1/2 quart of oil withiin
> > 4,000 miles.
> >
> > Is this normal? I tend to think it's not.

>
>
>
> It is.
>
> You'll notice your gas mileage is not nearly what you think it should be
> either. There is a range of acceptable oil use, and you are /well/ within
> that. 8,000 miles per quart is excellent for only 4K miles on the clock.
> And it'll get even better as the engine wears in.
>
> At thi point, your rings are still bedding in and the final cylinder

finish
> is still forming. You even have special break-in oil in there that is
> designed to aid the break-in process.
>
> The most important thing you can do right now is to perform all services
> (especially oil changes) exactly as specified in your owner's manual, and
> NOT to change the oil for the first time until precisely as specifed (and
> especially not too early!)
>
> Approaching about 8,000-10,000 miles your oil usage will decline even

more,
> and your gas mileage will reach its final level.
>
> Enjoy your new Honda.
>
>
> --
> TeGGeR®


Good answer.

>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/



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