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Old 06 Sep 2005, 04:16 pm
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Default 1993 Honda Civic clutch foot pedal has little pressor

Hey everyone,

I had some problems in the past with my car, and all of you great
people on the board were able to help me. Unfortunately, today when I
tried to drive my car (its been sitting in the parking lot for 3 days)
when I started the car I noticed that the foot clutch had absolutely no
pressor. I tried to put the car into first gear, and because of the
lack of pressor it wouldn't let me.

I heard of a clutch going bad, or scraping when changing gears, but I
never seen or heard of this happening. I pumped on the clutch pedal
like 20 times and managed to get some pressor in it so I could go to
work today. As I was driving back home I had problems changing gears
again and pumped on the clutch pedal a bunch of times, and it seemed to
work. Does anyone know what maybe causing this problem?

I just started a new job being fulltime, and now started college also
being full time. I don't have any money to get a new car, otherwise I
would. I cannot afford to take off work or miss any school. Please help
me. :O)

Thanks so much for your time, and help.

Johnny

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Old 06 Sep 2005, 04:28 pm
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"mopa" <buttakid@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1126041373.213419.96670@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:

> Hey everyone,
>
> I had some problems in the past with my car, and all of you great
> people on the board were able to help me. Unfortunately, today when I
> tried to drive my car (its been sitting in the parking lot for 3 days)
> when I started the car I noticed that the foot clutch had absolutely no
> pressor. I tried to put the car into first gear, and because of the
> lack of pressor it wouldn't let me.
>
> I heard of a clutch going bad, or scraping when changing gears, but I
> never seen or heard of this happening. I pumped on the clutch pedal
> like 20 times and managed to get some pressor in it so I could go to
> work today. As I was driving back home I had problems changing gears
> again and pumped on the clutch pedal a bunch of times, and it seemed to
> work. Does anyone know what maybe causing this problem?



Clutch master cylinder seals are bad.

Rebuild/replace. Easy job.



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Old 06 Sep 2005, 04:56 pm
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Default Re: 1993 Honda Civic clutch foot pedal has little pressor

is this something I could do? I'm pretty good at doing just about
everything. I just need to know what I need, and where the master
cylinder seals are located.

Thank you Tegger!

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Old 06 Sep 2005, 08:56 pm
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"mopa" <buttakid@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> is this something I could do? I'm pretty good at doing just about
> everything. I just need to know what I need, and where the master
> cylinder seals are located.
>
> Thank you Tegger!
>



I haven't got a clutch MC replacement page, but the brake MC is pretty
close to that.

The differences are that the clutch MC has only a single circuit, has no
booster, and the line to the slave is short. Bleeding is a LOT easier.

The seals are very, very similar to the brake MC seals (but only one
circuit).

Hope it helps.

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Old 06 Sep 2005, 09:04 pm
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Default Re: 1993 Honda Civic clutch foot pedal has little pressor

Thanks tegger.

I'm going to have this guy at the shop replace the clutch master
cylinder, and the clutch slave cylinder. This should do the job right?

I just gotta get thing fixed. I am driving back and forth at work, and
then school, and cannot lose any days off at work or school. I'm a
freshman, so I don't want to miss anyways.

Today while I was driving on the expressway here in Atlanta during rush
hour. I got scared because I'm driving 80mph, and then have to jump
down to 30 and throw myself into 3rd shift. I had a hard time changing
gears as the pedal didn't want to allow me to shift into 3rd gear. I
had to put my foot under the pedal, and raise it up, and then slowly
pump on it, and then it managed to get enough pressor to get me back to
2, 3, and later 4th. This is a serious pain in the ass way to drive,
and I must say very dangerous too.

How long before I will not be able to pump the clutch pedal, and when
will I lose complete pressor? Sadly. I have to wait 2/3 days before I
can get this fixed.

Thanks again.
John

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Old 06 Sep 2005, 09:09 pm
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"mopa" <buttakid@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Thanks tegger.
>
> I'm going to have this guy at the shop replace the clutch master
> cylinder, and the clutch slave cylinder. This should do the job right?



That'll do it. If the MC is worn, the slave is likely not far behind, so
you're killing two birds with one stone, a good idea.


>
> I just gotta get thing fixed. I am driving back and forth at work, and
> then school, and cannot lose any days off at work or school. I'm a
> freshman, so I don't want to miss anyways.




Maintenance is always an excellent idea. And sometimes skimping on repairs
can be false economy.

<snip>


>
> How long before I will not be able to pump the clutch pedal, and when
> will I lose complete pressor?



It'll take a few days or weeks, depending.


> Thanks again.



You're welcome.


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Old 06 Sep 2005, 09:13 pm
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mopa wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> I had some problems in the past with my car, and all of you great
> people on the board were able to help me. Unfortunately, today when I
> tried to drive my car (its been sitting in the parking lot for 3 days)
> when I started the car I noticed that the foot clutch had absolutely no
> pressor. I tried to put the car into first gear, and because of the
> lack of pressor it wouldn't let me.
>
> I heard of a clutch going bad, or scraping when changing gears, but I
> never seen or heard of this happening. I pumped on the clutch pedal
> like 20 times and managed to get some pressor in it so I could go to
> work today. As I was driving back home I had problems changing gears
> again and pumped on the clutch pedal a bunch of times, and it seemed to
> work. Does anyone know what maybe causing this problem?
>
> I just started a new job being fulltime, and now started college also
> being full time. I don't have any money to get a new car, otherwise I
> would. I cannot afford to take off work or miss any school. Please help
> me. :O)
>
> Thanks so much for your time, and help.
>
> Johnny
>

first thing to do is check the fluid level. it's common for these
things to leak, and once the line is airlocked, you get the symptoms you
describe.

suggest that while you're waiting for parts, you refill the reservoir,
bleed the slave and make sure you keep it topped up. you can drive a
car like this for some time before the leak gets so bad it won't work at
all.

and in emergency, you can get away wihout the clutch for all gear shifts
except pulling away from standstill. just get the revs right and hold
the stick against the gear slot you want. it'll drop in as soon as it
meshes. do /not/ make a habit of this or force it - for hopefully
obvious reasons.

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Old 06 Sep 2005, 09:30 pm
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Hello Jim,

Thank you so very much for your help. I was wondering though where is
this reservoir located on the car so I can make sure it is filled up.
But, what do I fill it up with? dot4?

Basically its like this. When I walk into my car the clutch pedal is on
the floor. I then start up the car, and slowly pump on the clutch pedal
about 10 times, and then there is enough pressor for the clutch padal
to allow me to engage in changing gears. The wierd thing is that the
car was working perferly fine. No problems with the clutch or the
pedal. I parked the car for 3 days, and came back and seen the clutch
had no pressor. Something just seems weird.

Thank you.

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Old 06 Sep 2005, 10:01 pm
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"mopa" <buttakid@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Hello Jim,
>
> Thank you so very much for your help. I was wondering though where is
> this reservoir located on the car so I can make sure it is filled up.
> But, what do I fill it up with? dot4?
>
> Basically its like this. When I walk into my car the clutch pedal is on
> the floor. I then start up the car, and slowly pump on the clutch pedal
> about 10 times, and then there is enough pressor for the clutch padal
> to allow me to engage in changing gears. The wierd thing is that the
> car was working perferly fine. No problems with the clutch or the
> pedal. I parked the car for 3 days, and came back and seen the clutch
> had no pressor. Something just seems weird.
>
> Thank you.
>



Does the Master Cylinder level ever drop over time? This is a *critical*
question! It makes ALL the difference! I've asked it before and received no
answer.

By the way, it's spelled "pressure", not "pressor".

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"mopa" <buttakid@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Hello Jim,
>
> Thank you so very much for your help. I was wondering though where is
> this reservoir located on the car so I can make sure it is filled up.
> But, what do I fill it up with? dot4?



It's on the driver's side of the engine compartment, close to the firewall.
It has a short rubber hose leading to the cylinder itself.

Do not confuse it with the BRAKE Master Cylinder reservoir , which is
mounted directly on its Master Cylinder body, and has a great big black
cake-pan sort of thing behind it.

Ordinary DOT3/4 brake fluid is fine.

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