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Old 29 Aug 2005, 12:15 pm
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Default Bad Squeaks!

My 1990 Accord EX-R (an otherwise excellent car) squeaks badly when driving
or turning the steering wheel. I can feel the vibrations of the squeak
through the steering wheel and people on the street turn to hear it as well.
It's LOUD!

After having my mechanic spray lubricant in many suspension and steering
components, and replacing some control arm bushings I'm still left with a
very noisy car. Has anyone ever experienced this problem?

thanks,

Michael

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Old 29 Aug 2005, 12:28 pm
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"Michael" <zm.abraham@rogers.com> wrote in
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> My 1990 Accord EX-R (an otherwise excellent car) squeaks badly when
> driving or turning the steering wheel. I can feel the vibrations of
> the squeak through the steering wheel and people on the street turn to
> hear it as well. It's LOUD!
>
> After having my mechanic spray lubricant in many suspension and
> steering components, and replacing some control arm bushings I'm still
> left with a very noisy car. Has anyone ever experienced this problem?
>



Check the brakes.


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Old 29 Aug 2005, 03:01 pm
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Default Re: Bad Squeaks!

On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:15:40 -0400, "Michael" <zm.abraham@rogers.com>
puked:

>My 1990 Accord EX-R (an otherwise excellent car) squeaks badly when driving
>or turning the steering wheel. I can feel the vibrations of the squeak
>through the steering wheel and people on the street turn to hear it as well.
>It's LOUD!
>
>After having my mechanic spray lubricant in many suspension and steering
>components, and replacing some control arm bushings I'm still left with a
>very noisy car. Has anyone ever experienced this problem?


How's the power steering fluid level?
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Old 29 Aug 2005, 06:32 pm
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lab~rat <chase@cheese.net> wrote in
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> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:15:40 -0400, "Michael" <zm.abraham@rogers.com>
> puked:
>
>>My 1990 Accord EX-R (an otherwise excellent car) squeaks badly when
>>driving or turning the steering wheel. I can feel the vibrations of
>>the squeak through the steering wheel and people on the street turn to
>>hear it as well. It's LOUD!
>>
>>After having my mechanic spray lubricant in many suspension and
>>steering components, and replacing some control arm bushings I'm still
>>left with a very noisy car. Has anyone ever experienced this problem?

>
> How's the power steering fluid level?



Good point!

Or the belt tension. A loose belt may squeal when turning, but not when
going straight. It will also have a tendency to squeak when starting up
from cold.

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Old 30 Aug 2005, 01:35 pm
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Default Re: Bad Squeaks!

Thanks for your replies,

Tegger, would your suggestion apply to when the brakes are not being used?
When I turn or hit a small bump the noise is loud. When I apply the brakes
I don't always hear the squeal.



I just checked the power steering fluid and it's OK.

This sound is really a creaking rather than squeaking noise. It doesn't
begin until the car has begun rolling. It's not necessary to turn the
steering to hear it although turning the wheel can produce the sound. Also,
when you park the car, the creak
can continue for 20 to 40 seconds as the car settles. It's located on the
left side of the car.

Regarding belt tension - new belts were recently installed with a new
alternator, with no change in the creak sound.

Michael

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> lab~rat <chase@cheese.net> wrote in
> news:gbq6h19uoo2i1p14ve8emt30ekp69prskf@4ax.com:
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>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:15:40 -0400, "Michael" <zm.abraham@rogers.com>
>> puked:
>>
>>>My 1990 Accord EX-R (an otherwise excellent car) squeaks badly when
>>>driving or turning the steering wheel. I can feel the vibrations of
>>>the squeak through the steering wheel and people on the street turn to
>>>hear it as well. It's LOUD!
>>>
>>>After having my mechanic spray lubricant in many suspension and
>>>steering components, and replacing some control arm bushings I'm still
>>>left with a very noisy car. Has anyone ever experienced this problem?

>>
>> How's the power steering fluid level?

>
>
> Good point!
>
> Or the belt tension. A loose belt may squeal when turning, but not when
> going straight. It will also have a tendency to squeak when starting up
> from cold.
>
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Old 30 Aug 2005, 01:55 pm
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Michael wrote:
> Thanks for your replies,
>
> Tegger, would your suggestion apply to when the brakes are not being used?
> When I turn or hit a small bump the noise is loud. When I apply the brakes
> I don't always hear the squeal.
>


Can you make the noise just by pushing down on the front bumper? May
need to check out the upper A arm bushings, but I've never encountered a
90 Accord with squeeks there. bob
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Old 30 Aug 2005, 05:22 pm
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"Michael" <zm.abraham@rogers.com> wrote in
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> Thanks for your replies,
>
> Tegger, would your suggestion apply to when the brakes are not being
> used?
> When I turn or hit a small bump the noise is loud. When I apply the
> brakes I don't always hear the squeal.
>
>
>
> I just checked the power steering fluid and it's OK.
>
> This sound is really a creaking rather than squeaking noise. It
> doesn't begin until the car has begun rolling. It's not necessary to
> turn the steering to hear it although turning the wheel can produce
> the sound. Also, when you park the car, the creak
> can continue for 20 to 40 seconds as the car settles. It's located on
> the left side of the car.




Are you saying the squeak occurs even when the car is not moving? Does it
stop immediately if you shut the engine off while it's making the sound?


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Old 30 Aug 2005, 07:04 pm
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Default Re: Bad Squeaks!

If I push down on the car (or lift the car) directly over the left shock I
hear a squeak, in the vicinity of the shock. If I push down on the front
bumper on the left side I hear a squeak as well.
Michael

"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:qY1Re.69770$gB.59762@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> Michael wrote:
>> Thanks for your replies,
>>
>> Tegger, would your suggestion apply to when the brakes are not being
>> used?
>> When I turn or hit a small bump the noise is loud. When I apply the
>> brakes
>> I don't always hear the squeal.
>>

>
> Can you make the noise just by pushing down on the front bumper? May need
> to check out the upper A arm bushings, but I've never encountered a 90
> Accord with squeeks there. bob



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Old 30 Aug 2005, 07:12 pm
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Default Re: Bad Squeaks!

The action of me getting out of the car (after turning off the ignition)
promotes this sound in a small, brief way. Seems like taking my weight off
the car prompts the sound. After I close the door and stand beside the car
I heard a quiet creaking on the left front side for 10 to 20 seconds.

It doesn't seem related to engine operation. Just rolling over bumps or
steering creates the creaking noise.

My mechanic is not sure what to look at next, by he's game to try.

Any suggestions gratefully accepted.

Michael

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> "Michael" <zm.abraham@rogers.com> wrote in
> news:1MGdnWFGfP1qO4neRVn-vA@rogers.com:
>
>> Thanks for your replies,
>>
>> Tegger, would your suggestion apply to when the brakes are not being
>> used?
>> When I turn or hit a small bump the noise is loud. When I apply the
>> brakes I don't always hear the squeal.
>>
>>
>>
>> I just checked the power steering fluid and it's OK.
>>
>> This sound is really a creaking rather than squeaking noise. It
>> doesn't begin until the car has begun rolling. It's not necessary to
>> turn the steering to hear it although turning the wheel can produce
>> the sound. Also, when you park the car, the creak
>> can continue for 20 to 40 seconds as the car settles. It's located on
>> the left side of the car.

>
>
>
> Are you saying the squeak occurs even when the car is not moving? Does it
> stop immediately if you shut the engine off while it's making the sound?
>
>
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Old 30 Aug 2005, 07:40 pm
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"Michael" <zm.abraham@rogers.com> wrote in
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> The action of me getting out of the car (after turning off the
> ignition) promotes this sound in a small, brief way. Seems like taking
> my weight off the car prompts the sound. After I close the door and
> stand beside the car I heard a quiet creaking on the left front side
> for 10 to 20 seconds.
>
> It doesn't seem related to engine operation. Just rolling over bumps
> or steering creates the creaking noise.
>



Aha! We're narrowing it down.

Two likely causes:
1) Balljoint seizing.
2) Suspension spring creaking in its bottom seat.

Tell your guy to spray some silicone lube on the spring all around right
where it meets the seat on the damper housing. Multiple applications may be
needed. Drive down a bumpy road for a while to help move the spring in its
seat to distribute the lube.

Don't be stingy with the lube, but DON'T get any overspray or drips on the
brakes!!!

If that does not help, pop the balljoint out of its hole in the lower
control arm, and try to wiggle it. Your mechanic should be able to tell
from that if it's sticking or not.

If it turns out to be the ball joint, George Macdonald recently posted his
own experience using a grease gun and needle attachment to add grease
through the boot:
http://tinyurl.com/arofe



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