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Old 29 Aug 2005, 06:40 am
hutchtoo
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Default 1994 Honda Civic won't start

Hi,

My 94 Honda Civic EX automatic will not start. It has plenty of battery
juice, and turns over, just no ignition. Any recommendations? I'd like to
try to fix this without going into a shop.

Related info:
It's very humid, rainy.
This happened a once couple months ago, and seemed to resolv itself w/o
repair.

Thanks.


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Old 29 Aug 2005, 08:37 am
Remco
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Default Re: 1994 Honda Civic won't start

hutchtoo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My 94 Honda Civic EX automatic will not start. It has plenty of battery
> juice, and turns over, just no ignition. Any recommendations? I'd like to
> try to fix this without going into a shop.
>
> Related info:
> It's very humid, rainy.
> This happened a once couple months ago, and seemed to resolv itself w/o
> repair.
>


Are you getting spark?
Usually ignition problems that show up when it is humid or raining are
related to your cap, rotor and wires.
If it has been a while since they've been replaced, replace them. Use
original Honda components - they are a little more expensive, but do
tend to be better and last longer than aftermarket.

You if you are not getting any kind of spark, it could also be your
ignitor. This is an electronic component inside your distributor and
commonly fails on Hondas.
Here's some really good info on it:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/start...tml#badigniter

Hope you'll fix it soon.
Remco

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Old 29 Aug 2005, 09:10 am
B Squareman
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"hutchtoo" <hutchtoo@gmail.com> wrote in message news:6J-dndYBbPb2aY_eRVn-hg@rcn.net...

> My 94 Honda Civic EX automatic will not start. It has plenty of battery
> juice, and turns over, just no ignition. Any recommendations? I'd like to
> try to fix this without going into a shop.
> Related info:
> It's very humid, rainy.
> This happened a once couple months ago, and seemed to resolv itself w/o
> repair.


Looks like you are located in Waltham, Massachusetts. If it
rainy and freezing I'd make sure the distributor seal is in
perfect condition to keep the moisture out. Use dielectric grease
to seal the ends of the plug wires.

In this image distributor seal is part #10

http://www.slhondaparts.com/images/PCI/13SR40/017/6.jpg





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Old 29 Aug 2005, 09:49 am
Elle
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"Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote
> hutchtoo wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > My 94 Honda Civic EX automatic will not start. It has plenty of battery
> > juice, and turns over, just no ignition. Any recommendations? I'd like

to
> > try to fix this without going into a shop.
> >
> > Related info:
> > It's very humid, rainy.
> > This happened a once couple months ago, and seemed to resolv itself w/o
> > repair.
> >

>
> Are you getting spark?
> Usually ignition problems that show up when it is humid or raining are
> related to your cap, rotor and wires.


I agree about the moisture, particularly affecting the distributor cap.

I'd start with replacing the cap (the part costs about $20). Still no start,
then change the plugs ($10-$20). Then the wires ($50-$75). Then the rotor
($15?).

If you have a voltmeter, you should be able to check the resistance of the
wires.

Alternatively, post the age (in years and miles of each of the above), and
people can comment further.

> If it has been a while since they've been replaced, replace them. Use
> original Honda components - they are a little more expensive, but do
> tend to be better and last longer than aftermarket.
>
> You if you are not getting any kind of spark, it could also be your
> ignitor. This is an electronic component inside your distributor and
> commonly fails on Hondas.


Agreed. A new ignitor will run about $100.

Buy OEM everything.


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Old 29 Aug 2005, 10:37 am
'Curly Q. Links'
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Default Re: 1994 Honda Civic won't start

hutchtoo wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> My 94 Honda Civic EX automatic will not start. It has plenty of battery
> juice, and turns over, just no ignition. Any recommendations? I'd like to
> try to fix this without going into a shop.
>
> Related info:
> It's very humid, rainy.
> This happened a once couple months ago, and seemed to resolv itself w/o
> repair.
>
> Thanks.


=====================================

Hutchtoo,

Don't go off pursuing any untamed ornithoids. (wild goose chase).
Electronic components don't fail overnight. Spark plugs don't get fouled
overnight. We had the same problem on our Odyssey. One morning it just
wouldn't start. Spun good, but no start. If I had realized that one of
my injectors had simply dripped a load of fuel into the engine
overnight, I would have opened the Owner's Manual and found the part
about how to start a 'flooded engine'.

Hold the pedal to the floor crank the starter for up to fifteen seconds.
When it starts to run, back off the pedal. It may blow a bit of smoke.
Run a tank of Gasohol or a bottle of injector cleaner thru it.

'Curly'
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Old 29 Aug 2005, 11:27 am
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"hutchtoo" <hutchtoo@gmail.com> wrote in
news:6J-dndYBbPb2aY_eRVn-hg@rcn.net:

> Hi,
>
> My 94 Honda Civic EX automatic will not start. It has plenty of
> battery juice, and turns over, just no ignition. Any recommendations?
> I'd like to try to fix this without going into a shop.
>
> Related info:
> It's very humid, rainy.
> This happened a once couple months ago, and seemed to resolv itself
> w/o repair.
>
> Thanks.
>
>


It could also be a bad main relay.
http://www.marklamond.co.uk/howto/el...main-relay.htm

tegger.com is also a great Honda/Acura info database.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
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Old 29 Aug 2005, 12:14 pm
hutchtoo
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Default Re: 1994 Honda Civic won't start

Thanks all, this is great info.

I'll definitely try the 15-second test before replacing the distributor
parts.

I got this car in Nov 1994 and suspect most of these parts are nearly
that old -- other than the plugs.

Any recommendations on sources for original Honda parts? I prefer go to
local shops like Lappens and NAPA, which mostly sell 3d party parts
like Beck Arnley distributor parts.

Thanks again.

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Old 29 Aug 2005, 12:24 pm
hutchtoo
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Default Re: 1994 Honda Civic won't start

> It could also be a bad main relay.

Good to know. Though both times this happened with a cold start (albeit
in warm humid weather). Distributor assy seems to be the top suspect
based on most of the feedback....

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Old 29 Aug 2005, 01:12 pm
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Default Re: 1994 Honda Civic won't start

hutchtoo wrote:
> Thanks all, this is great info.
>
> I'll definitely try the 15-second test before replacing the distributor
> parts.
>
> I got this car in Nov 1994 and suspect most of these parts are nearly
> that old -- other than the plugs.
>
> Any recommendations on sources for original Honda parts? I prefer go to
> local shops like Lappens and NAPA, which mostly sell 3d party parts
> like Beck Arnley distributor parts.
>
> Thanks again.


If you end up replacing ignition components, replace them with OEM
Honda: using aftermarket is just asking for trouble.

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Old 29 Aug 2005, 01:43 pm
Elle
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Default Re: 1994 Honda Civic won't start

Are you in a hurry?

If not, I recommend www.slhonda.com (in California). Great drawings to find
your parts. All OEM. Good service, based on my one order from them so far.
Your parts should arrive within ten days or even a week.

It's been reported here that some dealers (parts dept.) will give you
www.slhonda.com's prices if you come to them with a printout of prices from
slhonda.

Also, Curly's point is a good one, by the way, AFAIC. On the other hand, the
distributor, wire, and plug parts mentioned earlier all have to be changed
out every few years anyway, so it's not like you're throwing money away.
(Some folks are saying OEM Honda wires last a really long time, though... )

"hutchtoo" <hutchtoo@gmail.com> wrote
> Any recommendations on sources for original Honda parts? I prefer go to
> local shops like Lappens and NAPA, which mostly sell 3d party parts
> like Beck Arnley distributor parts.



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