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Old 28 Jul 2005, 09:14 pm
Howard Lester
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Default Re: What problems have you experienced with your keyless entry remote?

"Jason" wrote

> Joe,
> One of the things that I had a hard time getting use to was how the doors
> would lock automatically after about 3 minutes.


I've heard those stories, but my 04 Accord doesn't do that. ?




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Old 29 Jul 2005, 05:26 am
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"Howard Lester" <heylester@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
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> "Jason" wrote
>
> > Joe,
>> One of the things that I had a hard time getting use to was how the doors
>> would lock automatically after about 3 minutes.

>
> I've heard those stories, but my 04 Accord doesn't do that. ?



And neither does my 03.

What does happenis this: If you unlock the doors with the remote, but
don't open one of them within about 20 seconds, they relock. And if you
have also opened the windows when you unlocked the doors, and they relock
before you get there, don't try to pull up on one of the door lock buttons
as it will activate the alarm. Use the remote to unlock them again.


Bob


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Old 30 Jul 2005, 12:09 pm
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In article <RunGe.53886$rb6.38639@lakeread07>, "rjdriver"
<rjdrivers@cox.net> wrote:

> "Howard Lester" <heylester@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
> news:11ej4bfrs9m51bd@corp.supernews.com...
> > "Jason" wrote
> >
> > > Joe,
> >> One of the things that I had a hard time getting use to was how the doors
> >> would lock automatically after about 3 minutes.

> >
> > I've heard those stories, but my 04 Accord doesn't do that. ?

>
>
> And neither does my 03.
>
> What does happenis this: If you unlock the doors with the remote, but
> don't open one of them within about 20 seconds, they relock. And if you
> have also opened the windows when you unlocked the doors, and they relock
> before you get there, don't try to pull up on one of the door lock buttons
> as it will activate the alarm. Use the remote to unlock them again.
>
>
> Bob


Bob,
I should have stated that I have a 99 Accord. I had the window rolled down
and I locked the door with the remote. I checked my mail and returned to
the car and noticed that I had left the window down. I pulled up the lock
on the door and the alarm went off. It surprised and shocked me. I have a
feeling that Honda must have received thousands of complaints about those
doors locking automatically which is why that feature is not on newer
Honda cars such as the O3 and O4 Honda cars. It was stupid idea and I hope
they fired the engineer that came up with the stupid idea.
Jason

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Old 30 Jul 2005, 01:32 pm
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>> What does happenis this: If you unlock the doors with the remote, but
>>don't open one of them within about 20 seconds, they relock. And if you
>>have also opened the windows when you unlocked the doors, and they relock
>>before you get there, don't try to pull up on one of the door lock buttons
>>as it will activate the alarm. Use the remote to unlock them again.
>>

> I should have stated that I have a 99 Accord. I had the window rolled down
> and I locked the door with the remote. I checked my mail and returned to
> the car and noticed that I had left the window down. I pulled up the lock
> on the door and the alarm went off. It surprised and shocked me. I have a
> feeling that Honda must have received thousands of complaints about those
> doors locking automatically which is why that feature is not on newer
> Honda cars such as the O3 and O4 Honda cars. It was stupid idea and I hope
> they fired the engineer that came up with the stupid idea.


This unpleasant feature is on my 2005 Acccord.

I was talking with a friend as we walked to the parking lot. It was a
hot day so I used the remote to open the windows (1st press => unlock
driver's door, 2nd => all other doors, hold after this to open windows).

We talked for a bit and then I went to open the driver's door. Seeing it
was locked I reached thru the window and pulled up the lock. Off went
the alarm.

What were they possibly thinking?

And they haven't figured it out in 6 years?

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Old 30 Jul 2005, 02:52 pm
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In article <OIPGe.2261$iM7.821@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>, Brian Stell
<bstell@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> >> What does happenis this: If you unlock the doors with the remote, but
> >>don't open one of them within about 20 seconds, they relock. And if you
> >>have also opened the windows when you unlocked the doors, and they relock
> >>before you get there, don't try to pull up on one of the door lock buttons
> >>as it will activate the alarm. Use the remote to unlock them again.
> >>

> > I should have stated that I have a 99 Accord. I had the window rolled down
> > and I locked the door with the remote. I checked my mail and returned to
> > the car and noticed that I had left the window down. I pulled up the lock
> > on the door and the alarm went off. It surprised and shocked me. I have a
> > feeling that Honda must have received thousands of complaints about those
> > doors locking automatically which is why that feature is not on newer
> > Honda cars such as the O3 and O4 Honda cars. It was stupid idea and I hope
> > they fired the engineer that came up with the stupid idea.

>
> This unpleasant feature is on my 2005 Acccord.
>
> I was talking with a friend as we walked to the parking lot. It was a
> hot day so I used the remote to open the windows (1st press => unlock
> driver's door, 2nd => all other doors, hold after this to open windows).
>
> We talked for a bit and then I went to open the driver's door. Seeing it
> was locked I reached thru the window and pulled up the lock. Off went
> the alarm.
>
> What were they possibly thinking?
>
> And they haven't figured it out in 6 years?


Hello,
I guess that Honda Engineers will solve this problem when a person that
has heart problems does the same thing that we done and he or she has a
heart attack when the alarm goes off. I know that my heart must have
skipped some beats when the alarm went off.
Please try this experiment:
1. Lock your car with the remote.
2. Unlock your car with the remote but don't open the door.
3. Wait 5 minutes.
4. Check to see if the door lock is up or down.
On my 1999 Accord, the lock would be down.
I asked this question to find out if Honda has or has not installed this
feature in newer Accords. I hate this feature.
Jason

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Old 30 Jul 2005, 09:19 pm
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Jason wrote:
> In article <OIPGe.2261$iM7.821@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>, Brian Stell
> <bstell@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>> What does happenis this: If you unlock the doors with the remote, but
>>>>don't open one of them within about 20 seconds, they relock. And if you
>>>>have also opened the windows when you unlocked the doors, and they relock
>>>>before you get there, don't try to pull up on one of the door lock buttons
>>>>as it will activate the alarm. Use the remote to unlock them again.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I should have stated that I have a 99 Accord. I had the window rolled down
>>>and I locked the door with the remote. I checked my mail and returned to
>>>the car and noticed that I had left the window down. I pulled up the lock
>>>on the door and the alarm went off. It surprised and shocked me. I have a
>>>feeling that Honda must have received thousands of complaints about those
>>>doors locking automatically which is why that feature is not on newer
>>>Honda cars such as the O3 and O4 Honda cars. It was stupid idea and I hope
>>>they fired the engineer that came up with the stupid idea.

>>
>>This unpleasant feature is on my 2005 Acccord.
>>
>>I was talking with a friend as we walked to the parking lot. It was a
>>hot day so I used the remote to open the windows (1st press => unlock
>>driver's door, 2nd => all other doors, hold after this to open windows).
>>
>>We talked for a bit and then I went to open the driver's door. Seeing it
>>was locked I reached thru the window and pulled up the lock. Off went
>>the alarm.
>>
>>What were they possibly thinking?
>>
>>And they haven't figured it out in 6 years?

>
>
> Hello,
> I guess that Honda Engineers will solve this problem when a person that
> has heart problems does the same thing that we done and he or she has a
> heart attack when the alarm goes off. I know that my heart must have
> skipped some beats when the alarm went off.
> Please try this experiment:
> 1. Lock your car with the remote.
> 2. Unlock your car with the remote but don't open the door.
> 3. Wait 5 minutes.
> 4. Check to see if the door lock is up or down.
> On my 1999 Accord, the lock would be down.
> I asked this question to find out if Honda has or has not installed this
> feature in newer Accords. I hate this feature.
> Jason
>

I've watched it happen on my 2005 Accord:

Unlock my car when it is locked but don't open any door.
After about 15-20 seconds the door(s) lock and the alarm arms.

Opening the trunk (which is what I'm often doing during that 15-20
seconds) has no effect on this.
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Old 31 Jul 2005, 11:25 am
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In article <YyWGe.8476$_%4.2108@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> , Brian Stell
<bstell@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Jason wrote:
> > In article <OIPGe.2261$iM7.821@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>, Brian Stell
> > <bstell@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>> What does happenis this: If you unlock the doors with the remote, but
> >>>>don't open one of them within about 20 seconds, they relock. And if you
> >>>>have also opened the windows when you unlocked the doors, and they relock
> >>>>before you get there, don't try to pull up on one of the door lock

buttons
> >>>>as it will activate the alarm. Use the remote to unlock them again.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>I should have stated that I have a 99 Accord. I had the window rolled down
> >>>and I locked the door with the remote. I checked my mail and returned to
> >>>the car and noticed that I had left the window down. I pulled up the lock
> >>>on the door and the alarm went off. It surprised and shocked me. I have a
> >>>feeling that Honda must have received thousands of complaints about those
> >>>doors locking automatically which is why that feature is not on newer
> >>>Honda cars such as the O3 and O4 Honda cars. It was stupid idea and I hope
> >>>they fired the engineer that came up with the stupid idea.
> >>
> >>This unpleasant feature is on my 2005 Acccord.
> >>
> >>I was talking with a friend as we walked to the parking lot. It was a
> >>hot day so I used the remote to open the windows (1st press => unlock
> >>driver's door, 2nd => all other doors, hold after this to open windows).
> >>
> >>We talked for a bit and then I went to open the driver's door. Seeing it
> >>was locked I reached thru the window and pulled up the lock. Off went
> >>the alarm.
> >>
> >>What were they possibly thinking?
> >>
> >>And they haven't figured it out in 6 years?

> >
> >
> > Hello,
> > I guess that Honda Engineers will solve this problem when a person that
> > has heart problems does the same thing that we done and he or she has a
> > heart attack when the alarm goes off. I know that my heart must have
> > skipped some beats when the alarm went off.
> > Please try this experiment:
> > 1. Lock your car with the remote.
> > 2. Unlock your car with the remote but don't open the door.
> > 3. Wait 5 minutes.
> > 4. Check to see if the door lock is up or down.
> > On my 1999 Accord, the lock would be down.
> > I asked this question to find out if Honda has or has not installed this
> > feature in newer Accords. I hate this feature.
> > Jason
> >

> I've watched it happen on my 2005 Accord:
>
> Unlock my car when it is locked but don't open any door.
> After about 15-20 seconds the door(s) lock and the alarm arms.
>
> Opening the trunk (which is what I'm often doing during that 15-20
> seconds) has no effect on this.


Hello,
I'm surprised that Honda still installed this feature in new cars since so
many people hate it. I believe that Honda developed this feature because
some people were accidently unlocking their cars while they were putting
the remote into their pockets.
Jason

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Old 31 Jul 2005, 12:33 pm
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>>I'm surprised that Honda still installed this feature in new cars since so
many people hate it.<<

Exactly how many people hate it? Not trying to be a wise-ass...I really
want to know.

If there was the remotest possibility that someone would have a heart attack
from the alarm going off as you described, in today's litigious society
Honda's lawyers would have ordered the feature's removal long ago. I
suspect it's not as unpopular as you stated (although it does smack of Honda
trying to protect people from themselves), but I'd still like to see some
facts to back it up.


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Old 01 Aug 2005, 08:49 pm
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"Sid Schweiger" <spam@this.cretin> wrote in message
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>>>I'm surprised that Honda still installed this feature in new cars since
>>>so

> many people hate it.<<
>
> Exactly how many people hate it? Not trying to be a wise-ass...I really
> want to know.
>
> If there was the remotest possibility that someone would have a heart
> attack
> from the alarm going off as you described, in today's litigious society
> Honda's lawyers would have ordered the feature's removal long ago. I
> suspect it's not as unpopular as you stated (although it does smack of
> Honda
> trying to protect people from themselves), but I'd still like to see some
> facts to back it up.
>
>


I have no problem with this feature at all. Sure, it shocked me the
first time, but if I open the windows with the remote, and for whatever
reason don't get to the car as soon as I expected, I'll be very grateful
that the alarm system has been activated.


Bob


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