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Old 09 Jun 2005, 07:13 pm
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Default Best Civic year/model/performance/design/engineered

I am just curious as to what make people think was the best. I
personally think the 92/95 models were designed better, but like the
newer engines.

It would be nice if they would not of changed the headlights in the
civics, the older style seems much cooler I think. These new civics
they make the head lights look way to big for such a small/midsized
car.

cheers!
mopa

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Old 09 Jun 2005, 07:42 pm
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mopa wrote:
> I am just curious as to what make people think was the best. I
> personally think the 92/95 models were designed better, but like the
> newer engines.
>
> It would be nice if they would not of changed the headlights in the
> civics, the older style seems much cooler I think. These new civics
> they make the head lights look way to big for such a small/midsized
> car.
>
> cheers!
> mopa
>

the newer engines are great, particularly when mated to an automatic.
in the 99 on, ignition retards while up-shifting under power. this
effectively "throttles back" the motor so the automatic shift is /much/
smoother.

the 5th generations, the ones you describe, are indeed good cars, but my
favorites are the 4th gen. in that vein, i think you have a long way to
go to beat the 88-91 crx. light, fast, comfortable, fantastic handling
[if you are lucky enough to have one with a straight frame]. with up to
160bhp for the crx sir [iirc], a great power to weight ratio.

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Old 10 Jun 2005, 08:45 pm
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yah, CRX's are nice. I seen a very nice modifed one a few months ago.
It was a CRX, but had an 97 Integra Back, if you looked at the back of
the car you would swear it was an Integra, until you walked to the
front.

I wonder why they stopped making them?

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Old 11 Jun 2005, 12:10 am
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mopa wrote:
> yah, CRX's are nice. I seen a very nice modifed one a few months ago.
> It was a CRX, but had an 97 Integra Back, if you looked at the back of
> the car you would swear it was an Integra, until you walked to the
> front.
>
> I wonder why they stopped making them?
>

because honda hired some idiot with an m.b.a. that told them it was too
much car for too little money. the del sol was the reaction & it was
too expensive for too little. so they dropped it altogether for the 6th
generation! unbelievable. the crx really put the "hot hatch" on the
map and did wonders for honda's identity.

toyota played the same game with the mr2, but [arguably] the mr2 did not
have the broader appeal of the more utilitarian crx hatchback. to their
credit however, what toyota /did/ appear to figure out was the
down-selling loyalty these cars create. i mean, you love your first
mr2, right? you'll buy another toyota, right? i was being driven
around by a client in an avalon one time and got his whole car-life
history - he's been die-hard toyota ever since his first [used] mr2. so
sensible toyota take the trouble even now to keep the fun little
sportster cars in their line-up, even though sales figures are nothing
to write home about. when the honda m.b.a's axed the crx, they cut off
a whole generation of potential buyers & just /gave/ the business to
toyota. as if toyota weren't competitors in the first place! not a
smart move.

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Old 17 Jun 2005, 10:54 pm
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yeah, very true. Well, damn that sucks. I sure wish they made CRXs, if
you ask anyone who owns one, they will tell you how much they love it,
and how great it handles.

It's such a great car, designed perfectly, small, but very fast and
it's easily to say why they are good. Look? they are from the 80's, and
still running strong.

You won't see no 2005 Honda Element in 20 years from now, and why? it's
a cheap ass P.O.S, made of all plastic. What is wrong with car
companies today? when you make a product good, why change it?

" Don't change the light, unless the bulb is broken! "

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