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Hello folks, seems like some smart cookies in here so I thought I'd post a
few problems I have.

1) Noise coming from belts on engine, sounds like one of the flywheels, not
really a belt squealing noise. Seems to be from lower under the car.
Waterpump maybe? I have 110K on it (2001) and I'm told that the timing belt
might as well be done at same time if its waterpump. I have extended warr,
but not sure if that would cover water pump. If it does, should I do the
timing belt now? Is it really in the same area as water pump.

2) As it has been getting colder, I'm noticing a bit of hesitation when the
car is cold at CERTAIN spots on the gas pedal. Only for the first 5-10 mins.
ok at top of pedal, in middle small hesitation and then ok as pedal is down
further. Could this be a fuel injection problem as it seems to be related to
where the gas pedal is (when car cold)

Booking in to dealer, but I kinda wanna have a feeling if I'm in anyway
accurate in my suspicions.


thanks in advance
Jordy

Jordy wrote:
> Hello folks, seems like some smart cookies in here so I thought I'd post a
> few problems I have.
>
> 1) Noise coming from belts on engine, sounds like one of the flywheels, not
> really a belt squealing noise. Seems to be from lower under the car.
> Waterpump maybe? I have 110K on it (2001) and I'm told that the timing belt
> might as well be done at same time if its waterpump. I have extended warr,
> but not sure if that would cover water pump. If it does, should I do the
> timing belt now? Is it really in the same area as water pump.
>
> 2) As it has been getting colder, I'm noticing a bit of hesitation when the
> car is cold at CERTAIN spots on the gas pedal. Only for the first 5-10 mins.
> ok at top of pedal, in middle small hesitation and then ok as pedal is down
> further. Could this be a fuel injection problem as it seems to be related to
> where the gas pedal is (when car cold)
>
> Booking in to dealer, but I kinda wanna have a feeling if I'm in anyway
> accurate in my suspicions.
>
>
> thanks in advance
> Jordy
>
>
Ya, that sounds like a water pump, and yes, the timing belt is usually
right behind the water pump. Not sure about the dead spots, could be
the fuel injection, could be a temperature relay, could be water in the
line from drawing condensation and freezing, best guess would be a temp
relay, since you say it is only during the first 5-10 min.

HTH

Eric

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if you have 110k, you are due for a timing belt change in another 10k
anyway. getting to the water pump is about 90% of the labor involved in
takign out a timing belt so for probably 1/2 hour in labor costs y ou can
have the timing belt changed too. the water pump would be covered by the
warranty but not the timing belt change. i cant see them charging you more
than $75 extra for the belt change.
"Jordy" <jordyf@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Hello folks, seems like some smart cookies in here so I thought I'd post a
> few problems I have.
>
> 1) Noise coming from belts on engine, sounds like one of the flywheels,
not
> really a belt squealing noise. Seems to be from lower under the car.
> Waterpump maybe? I have 110K on it (2001) and I'm told that the timing
belt
> might as well be done at same time if its waterpump. I have extended warr,
> but not sure if that would cover water pump. If it does, should I do the
> timing belt now? Is it really in the same area as water pump.
>
> 2) As it has been getting colder, I'm noticing a bit of hesitation when
the
> car is cold at CERTAIN spots on the gas pedal. Only for the first 5-10
mins.
> ok at top of pedal, in middle small hesitation and then ok as pedal is
down
> further. Could this be a fuel injection problem as it seems to be related
to
> where the gas pedal is (when car cold)
>
> Booking in to dealer, but I kinda wanna have a feeling if I'm in anyway
> accurate in my suspicions.
>
>
> thanks in advance
> Jordy
>
>

Thanks Lamont1, I was just looking on the honda.com site and they say the
timing belt is at 168,000
Same for my dads 2002 Civic.
Am i reading something wrong?

"lamont1" <lamont@lamont.com> wrote in message
news:WvAhd.6078$HT3.1880@trndny08...
> if you have 110k, you are due for a timing belt change in another 10k
> anyway. getting to the water pump is about 90% of the labor involved in
> takign out a timing belt so for probably 1/2 hour in labor costs y ou can
> have the timing belt changed too. the water pump would be covered by the
> warranty but not the timing belt change. i cant see them charging you
> more
> than $75 extra for the belt change.
> "Jordy" <jordyf@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:GsGdnWVCmZro-x3cRVn-hA@rogers.com...
>> Hello folks, seems like some smart cookies in here so I thought I'd post
>> a
>> few problems I have.
>>
>> 1) Noise coming from belts on engine, sounds like one of the flywheels,
> not
>> really a belt squealing noise. Seems to be from lower under the car.
>> Waterpump maybe? I have 110K on it (2001) and I'm told that the timing
> belt
>> might as well be done at same time if its waterpump. I have extended
>> warr,
>> but not sure if that would cover water pump. If it does, should I do the
>> timing belt now? Is it really in the same area as water pump.
>>
>> 2) As it has been getting colder, I'm noticing a bit of hesitation when
> the
>> car is cold at CERTAIN spots on the gas pedal. Only for the first 5-10
> mins.
>> ok at top of pedal, in middle small hesitation and then ok as pedal is
> down
>> further. Could this be a fuel injection problem as it seems to be related
> to
>> where the gas pedal is (when car cold)
>>
>> Booking in to dealer, but I kinda wanna have a feeling if I'm in anyway
>> accurate in my suspicions.
>>
>>
>> thanks in advance
>> Jordy
>>
>>
>
>

I NEVER HEARD OF CHANGING A TIMING BELT AT 168000 MILES. MAYBE THEY MEAN
168000 KM. ALSO THAT ODD NUMBER IS STRANGE. I HAVE ACTUALLY HEARD OF CARS
THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEIR BELTS CHANGED AT 70K MILES AND 90KMILES BUT
NEVER 168K. MAYBE YOU WERE READING THE WRONG T HING.
"Jordy" <jordyf@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:vsadnbVlFo98khrcRVn-hA@rogers.com...
> Thanks Lamont1, I was just looking on the honda.com site and they say the
> timing belt is at 168,000
> Same for my dads 2002 Civic.
> Am i reading something wrong?
>
> "lamont1" <lamont@lamont.com> wrote in message
> news:WvAhd.6078$HT3.1880@trndny08...
> > if you have 110k, you are due for a timing belt change in another 10k
> > anyway. getting to the water pump is about 90% of the labor involved in
> > takign out a timing belt so for probably 1/2 hour in labor costs y ou
can
> > have the timing belt changed too. the water pump would be covered by the
> > warranty but not the timing belt change. i cant see them charging you
> > more
> > than $75 extra for the belt change.
> > "Jordy" <jordyf@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:GsGdnWVCmZro-x3cRVn-hA@rogers.com...
> >> Hello folks, seems like some smart cookies in here so I thought I'd
post
> >> a
> >> few problems I have.
> >>
> >> 1) Noise coming from belts on engine, sounds like one of the
flywheels,
> > not
> >> really a belt squealing noise. Seems to be from lower under the car.
> >> Waterpump maybe? I have 110K on it (2001) and I'm told that the timing
> > belt
> >> might as well be done at same time if its waterpump. I have extended
> >> warr,
> >> but not sure if that would cover water pump. If it does, should I do
the
> >> timing belt now? Is it really in the same area as water pump.
> >>
> >> 2) As it has been getting colder, I'm noticing a bit of hesitation when
> > the
> >> car is cold at CERTAIN spots on the gas pedal. Only for the first 5-10
> > mins.
> >> ok at top of pedal, in middle small hesitation and then ok as pedal is
> > down
> >> further. Could this be a fuel injection problem as it seems to be
related
> > to
> >> where the gas pedal is (when car cold)
> >>
> >> Booking in to dealer, but I kinda wanna have a feeling if I'm in anyway
> >> accurate in my suspicions.
> >>
> >>
> >> thanks in advance
> >> Jordy
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

"lamont1" <lamont@lamont.com> wrote in message
news:XEpkd.1150$5H4.426@trndny06...
>I NEVER HEARD OF CHANGING A TIMING BELT AT 168000 MILES. MAYBE THEY MEAN
> 168000 KM. ALSO THAT ODD NUMBER IS STRANGE. I HAVE ACTUALLY HEARD OF CARS
> THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEIR BELTS CHANGED AT 70K MILES AND 90KMILES
> BUT
> NEVER 168K. MAYBE YOU WERE READING THE WRONG T HING.

When my '01 civic turned 100,000 km, I asked the service department and they
quoted the same figure of 168,000 km. It makes sense if you figure you
service the vehicle every 8,000 km.

http://www.honda.ca/Honda/YourHonda/...ulator.htm?L=E
Pop in the 2001 prelude and it shows at bottom.
100,000km if in -29C weather
I'm canadian, i meant 168,000km


"Henry" <no-one@no-where.com> wrote in message
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>
> "lamont1" <lamont@lamont.com> wrote in message
> news:XEpkd.1150$5H4.426@trndny06...
>>I NEVER HEARD OF CHANGING A TIMING BELT AT 168000 MILES. MAYBE THEY MEAN
>> 168000 KM. ALSO THAT ODD NUMBER IS STRANGE. I HAVE ACTUALLY HEARD OF CARS
>> THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEIR BELTS CHANGED AT 70K MILES AND 90KMILES
>> BUT
>> NEVER 168K. MAYBE YOU WERE READING THE WRONG T HING.
>
> When my '01 civic turned 100,000 km, I asked the service department and
> they quoted the same figure of 168,000 km. It makes sense if you figure
> you service the vehicle every 8,000 km.
>

I believe the hesitating problem is because of lack of fuel, i have had the
same problems many times, blocked fuel filter/injectors, faulty fuel pump,
often the engine has a lower tone sound while this happens too, also check
the oil.

"lamont1" <lamont@lamont.com> wrote in message
news:XEpkd.1150$5H4.426@trndny06...
> I NEVER HEARD OF CHANGING A TIMING BELT AT 168000 MILES. MAYBE THEY MEAN
> 168000 KM. ALSO THAT ODD NUMBER IS STRANGE. I HAVE ACTUALLY HEARD OF CARS
> THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEIR BELTS CHANGED AT 70K MILES AND 90KMILES
BUT
> NEVER 168K. MAYBE YOU WERE READING THE WRONG T HING.
> "Jordy" <jordyf@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:vsadnbVlFo98khrcRVn-hA@rogers.com...
> > Thanks Lamont1, I was just looking on the honda.com site and they say
the
> > timing belt is at 168,000
> > Same for my dads 2002 Civic.
> > Am i reading something wrong?
> >
> > "lamont1" <lamont@lamont.com> wrote in message
> > news:WvAhd.6078$HT3.1880@trndny08...
> > > if you have 110k, you are due for a timing belt change in another 10k
> > > anyway. getting to the water pump is about 90% of the labor involved
in
> > > takign out a timing belt so for probably 1/2 hour in labor costs y ou
> can
> > > have the timing belt changed too. the water pump would be covered by
the
> > > warranty but not the timing belt change. i cant see them charging you
> > > more
> > > than $75 extra for the belt change.
> > > "Jordy" <jordyf@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > news:GsGdnWVCmZro-x3cRVn-hA@rogers.com...
> > >> Hello folks, seems like some smart cookies in here so I thought I'd
> post
> > >> a
> > >> few problems I have.
> > >>
> > >> 1) Noise coming from belts on engine, sounds like one of the
> flywheels,
> > > not
> > >> really a belt squealing noise. Seems to be from lower under the car.
> > >> Waterpump maybe? I have 110K on it (2001) and I'm told that the
timing
> > > belt
> > >> might as well be done at same time if its waterpump. I have extended
> > >> warr,
> > >> but not sure if that would cover water pump. If it does, should I do
> the
> > >> timing belt now? Is it really in the same area as water pump.
> > >>
> > >> 2) As it has been getting colder, I'm noticing a bit of hesitation
when
> > > the
> > >> car is cold at CERTAIN spots on the gas pedal. Only for the first
5-10
> > > mins.
> > >> ok at top of pedal, in middle small hesitation and then ok as pedal
is
> > > down
> > >> further. Could this be a fuel injection problem as it seems to be
> related
> > > to
> > >> where the gas pedal is (when car cold)
> > >>
> > >> Booking in to dealer, but I kinda wanna have a feeling if I'm in
anyway
> > >> accurate in my suspicions.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> thanks in advance
> > >> Jordy
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>