Honda Car Forum

In the manual, it says change once every 12 months under normal
circumstances, once every 6 months under extreme circumstances.

I'm guessing extreme means if u live in places with lots of snow and salty
roads n stuff.

But, once a year oil change?!?! Is that wut new cars are like these days?

Falling asleep through bandabee's post...

> In the manual, it says change once every 12 months under normal
> circumstances, once every 6 months under extreme circumstances.
>
> I'm guessing extreme means if u live in places with lots of snow and
> salty roads n stuff.
>
> But, once a year oil change?!?! Is that wut new cars are like these
> days?

Do it every 4500 miles, if you want to strech it out.

--
"If you can't change a tire, you're not allowed to have a beard. It's the
most basic part of a car: If you don't know that much about a car, you
really shouldn't be driving, should you?" - Jimmy Kimmel
http://www.cafeshops.com/creexul.2534632
Owner of the following: Henry Cotter - A.G.F.F., Eric Dreher AND mark
digital© - A.A.T., wiru the tired - A.F.D., and that Gino guy who keeps
chaning his nick on A.A.Acura.
Don't be stupid, and I won't point it out...

I'd have to look to be really sure, but the recommended oil change
interval is based on miles, not time. The time comes in as "or at
least" not as the primary measure. The V6 and 4 cyl have different oil
change mileage, I think. Most people seem to believe that more
frequent oil changes are better, but I suspect this is driven more by
the oil change industry than scientific fact. I'd suggest you just
follow the oil change mileage interval suggested by Honda.

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 07:09:39 GMT, "bandabee" <banXdabee@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>In the manual, it says change once every 12 months under normal
>circumstances, once every 6 months under extreme circumstances.
>
>I'm guessing extreme means if u live in places with lots of snow and salty
>roads n stuff.
>
>But, once a year oil change?!?! Is that wut new cars are like these days?
>

Extreme means lots of stop and go driving, driving in very hot or cold
conditions or where its very dusty. Extreme conditions apply to more people
than you think.....especially for people only driving a mile to work and
back with not much other driving in between.


"Pahsons - Somnolent" <pahsons@juno.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93FA2F37FBA73wyrmshutup@130.133.1.4...
> Falling asleep through bandabee's post...
>
> > In the manual, it says change once every 12 months under normal
> > circumstances, once every 6 months under extreme circumstances.
> >
> > I'm guessing extreme means if u live in places with lots of snow and
> > salty roads n stuff.
> >
> > But, once a year oil change?!?! Is that wut new cars are like these
> > days?
>
> Do it every 4500 miles, if you want to strech it out.
>
> --
> "If you can't change a tire, you're not allowed to have a beard. It's the
> most basic part of a car: If you don't know that much about a car, you
> really shouldn't be driving, should you?" - Jimmy Kimmel
> http://www.cafeshops.com/creexul.2534632
> Owner of the following: Henry Cotter - A.G.F.F., Eric Dreher AND mark
> digital© - A.A.T., wiru the tired - A.F.D., and that Gino guy who keeps
> chaning his nick on A.A.Acura.
> Don't be stupid, and I won't point it out...

In article <TScab.975769$ro6.19281738@news2.calgary.shaw.ca >, "bandabee"
<banXdabee@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In the manual, it says change once every 12 months under normal
> circumstances, once every 6 months under extreme circumstances.
>
> I'm guessing extreme means if u live in places with lots of snow and salty
> roads n stuff.
>
> But, once a year oil change?!?! Is that wut new cars are like these days?

If you plan to keep the vehicle for two years or less--you can have the
oil changed every 12 months.

If you plan to keep the vehicle for more than 4 years--change the oil and
filter every 3000 miles.

Change the transmission fluid and clean the filter every two years.

Change the coolant every two years.

On 9/20/03 10:54 AM, in article
billbjohnson555-2009030854320001@pm2...dialup.fix.net, "Bill B.
Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote:

> In article <TScab.975769$ro6.19281738@news2.calgary.shaw.ca >, "bandabee"
> <banXdabee@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> In the manual, it says change once every 12 months under normal
>> circumstances, once every 6 months under extreme circumstances.
>>
>> I'm guessing extreme means if u live in places with lots of snow and salty
>> roads n stuff.
>>
>> But, once a year oil change?!?! Is that wut new cars are like these days?
>
> If you plan to keep the vehicle for two years or less--you can have the
> oil changed every 12 months.
>
> If you plan to keep the vehicle for more than 4 years--change the oil and
> filter every 3000 miles.
>
> Change the transmission fluid and clean the filter every two years.
>
> Change the coolant every two years.


Huh? Where do you get this stuff? It sounds like you're reading advice
from Smokey in a Popular Science from about 1970.

I would really like to see some actual data that shows a reduction in a
modern car's usable life that was caused by following the manufacturer's
published maintenance schedule. How about it? Anybody? Didn't think so.

In article
<billbjohnson555-2009030854320001@pm2-broad-134.snlo.dialup.fix.net>,
billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com (Bill B. Johnson) wrote:

> In article <TScab.975769$ro6.19281738@news2.calgary.shaw.ca >, "bandabee"
> <banXdabee@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > In the manual, it says change once every 12 months under normal
> > circumstances, once every 6 months under extreme circumstances.
> >
> > I'm guessing extreme means if u live in places with lots of snow and salty
> > roads n stuff.
> >
> > But, once a year oil change?!?! Is that wut new cars are like these days?
>
> If you plan to keep the vehicle for two years or less--you can have the
> oil changed every 12 months.
>
> If you plan to keep the vehicle for more than 4 years--change the oil and
> filter every 3000 miles.
>
> Change the transmission fluid and clean the filter every two years.
>
> Change the coolant every two years.

3K oil changes are ridiculous, do it every 5k or twice a yeark,
whichever comes first.

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:14:24 GMT, "E. Meyer" <e.meyer@ieee.org> wrote:

>On 9/20/03 10:54 AM, in article
>billbjohnson555-2009030854320001@pm2-broad-134.snlo.dialup.fix.net, "Bill B.
>Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <TScab.975769$ro6.19281738@news2.calgary.shaw.ca >, "bandabee"
>> <banXdabee@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In the manual, it says change once every 12 months under normal
>>> circumstances, once every 6 months under extreme circumstances.
>>>
>>> I'm guessing extreme means if u live in places with lots of snow and salty
>>> roads n stuff.
>>>
>>> But, once a year oil change?!?! Is that wut new cars are like these days?
>>
>> If you plan to keep the vehicle for two years or less--you can have the
>> oil changed every 12 months.
>>
>> If you plan to keep the vehicle for more than 4 years--change the oil and
>> filter every 3000 miles.
>>
>> Change the transmission fluid and clean the filter every two years.
>>
>> Change the coolant every two years.
>
>
>Huh? Where do you get this stuff? It sounds like you're reading advice
>from Smokey in a Popular Science from about 1970.
>
>I would really like to see some actual data that shows a reduction in a
>modern car's usable life that was caused by following the manufacturer's
>published maintenance schedule. How about it? Anybody? Didn't think so.

Especially unlikely to be difference if the 7500 mile oil is synthetic
and the 300 mile is dino (except in the wallet where the 3000 mile
protocol costs more). 3000 mile changes with synthetic is silly.

Actually there HAVE been studies on the changing of oil, and it's interval.
Just do a websearch. Oil change intervals used to be 3k because the oils
would gunk the engines, and the tolerances would get out of whack with the
increased pressures. Nowawdays, the oils and fuels have detergents. And
this is natural oil. In fact, my Owners Manual for my 1988 Accord LXi
recommends 7,500 mile interval. Synthetics weren't popular then. One brand
in particular who advertised longer intervals is Amsoil. They make
synthetics. If memory serves me, the interval is 25,000 miles.
"DH" <upyoursspam@cox.net> wrote in message
news:upyoursspam-7680D2.11483421092003@news.east.cox.net...
> In article
> <billbjohnson555-2009030854320001@pm2-broad-134.snlo.dialup.fix.net>,
> billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com (Bill B. Johnson) wrote:
>
> > In article <TScab.975769$ro6.19281738@news2.calgary.shaw.ca >, "bandabee"
> > <banXdabee@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In the manual, it says change once every 12 months under normal
> > > circumstances, once every 6 months under extreme circumstances.
> > >
> > > I'm guessing extreme means if u live in places with lots of snow and
salty
> > > roads n stuff.
> > >
> > > But, once a year oil change?!?! Is that wut new cars are like these
days?
> >
> > If you plan to keep the vehicle for two years or less--you can have the
> > oil changed every 12 months.
> >
> > If you plan to keep the vehicle for more than 4 years--change the oil
and
> > filter every 3000 miles.
> >
> > Change the transmission fluid and clean the filter every two years.
> >
> > Change the coolant every two years.
>
> 3K oil changes are ridiculous, do it every 5k or twice a yeark,
> whichever comes first.

In article <BB921F50.15D8D%e.meyer@ieee.org>, "E. Meyer"
<e.meyer@ieee.org> wrote:

> On 9/20/03 10:54 AM, in article
> billbjohnson555-2009030854320001@pm2...dialup.fix.net, "Bill B.
> Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <TScab.975769$ro6.19281738@news2.calgary.shaw.ca >, "bandabee"
> > <banXdabee@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In the manual, it says change once every 12 months under normal
> >> circumstances, once every 6 months under extreme circumstances.
> >>
> >> I'm guessing extreme means if u live in places with lots of snow and salty
> >> roads n stuff.
> >>
> >> But, once a year oil change?!?! Is that wut new cars are like these days?
> >
> > If you plan to keep the vehicle for two years or less--you can have the
> > oil changed every 12 months.
> >
> > If you plan to keep the vehicle for more than 4 years--change the oil and
> > filter every 3000 miles.
> >
> > Change the transmission fluid and clean the filter every two years.
> >
> > Change the coolant every two years.
>
>
> Huh? Where do you get this stuff? It sounds like you're reading advice
> from Smokey in a Popular Science from about 1970.
>
> I would really like to see some actual data that shows a reduction in a
> modern car's usable life that was caused by following the manufacturer's
> published maintenance schedule. How about it? Anybody? Didn't think so.

You are right. I don't have any data from some magazine or owner's manual.
I just know some basic facts about fluids used in vehicles. I once changed
my oil and transmission fluid on a regular basis. I admit that I have
never changed brake fluid and have hired mechanics to do that chore. I
closely examined the fluids and found metal fragments and other stuff that
I could not identify in those fluids. I recall reading (I don't remember
the source) that those metal fragments can cause damage to various engine
parts. That's why I follow the conservative mait. schedule mentioned
above. You can do what you like. If you only plan to keep a new vehicle
three years or less--it's okay to follow the maint. schedule in the
owner's manual. I plan to keep my Honda Accord 5 or more years.