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If you think Royal Purple is good, you should try Torco MPZ. I put it in my
truck once, and I swear I was getting 10% more mileage. On the next oil
change to Mobil 1, it went back to normal. I'd like to use Torco, but at
$10 a quart, it's not worth the extra mileage. I use it in my Racecars;
Drag, Drift, Auto-X, etc.

Technically, The difference is what weight you use. If your V-8 runs on
20w50, and you decide to put in 5W50. You'll definitely see an improvement,
dino or synthetic. All Synthetic motor oil is the same. When comparing
synthetic to synthetic, its the stabilizers used. Most commercial
synthetics, use Zinc as a stabilizer. Torco uses MPZ instead of Zinc. MPZ
has less friction, than Zinc. As a matter of fact most Top Fuelers use
Torco, even though they are sponsored by another oil company, and they pay
for the Torco oil.

"Nacho" <c.calixto@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:rS92b.10439$vy5.4561@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with Royal Purple? I'm
> considering it for my next oil change. They dyno'd a V8 camaro after and
> before putting in Royal Purplr and it clearly showed an 8-hp gain... wow.
If
> a good experience, how can an oil make more horsepower? and how
> (technically)?
>
>

Same applies for the Holden Racing Team - Mobil1 advertising all over their
car, but what do those monster Commodore racers run?

Fuchs multigrade.


Nick.

Joseph Wind <jpg@gif.com> wrote in message
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> If you think Royal Purple is good, you should try Torco MPZ. I put it in
my
> truck once, and I swear I was getting 10% more mileage. On the next oil
> change to Mobil 1, it went back to normal. I'd like to use Torco, but at
> $10 a quart, it's not worth the extra mileage. I use it in my Racecars;
> Drag, Drift, Auto-X, etc.
>
> Technically, The difference is what weight you use. If your V-8 runs on
> 20w50, and you decide to put in 5W50. You'll definitely see an
improvement,
> dino or synthetic. All Synthetic motor oil is the same. When comparing
> synthetic to synthetic, its the stabilizers used. Most commercial
> synthetics, use Zinc as a stabilizer. Torco uses MPZ instead of Zinc.
MPZ
> has less friction, than Zinc. As a matter of fact most Top Fuelers use
> Torco, even though they are sponsored by another oil company, and they pay
> for the Torco oil.
>
> "Nacho" <c.calixto@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:rS92b.10439$vy5.4561@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> > Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with Royal Purple? I'm
> > considering it for my next oil change. They dyno'd a V8 camaro after and
> > before putting in Royal Purplr and it clearly showed an 8-hp gain...
wow.
> If
> > a good experience, how can an oil make more horsepower? and how
> > (technically)?
> >
> >
>
>

"Joseph Wind" <jpg@gif.com> wrote in message
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> Technically, The difference is what weight you use. If your V-8 runs on
> 20w50, and you decide to put in 5W50. You'll definitely see an
improvement,
> dino or synthetic.

Really.

Why would that be?

Falling asleep through Stephen Bigelow's post...

>
> "Joseph Wind" <jpg@gif.com> wrote in message
> news:bic7ae$fis$1@sun-news.laserlink.net...
>
>> Technically, The difference is what weight you use. If your V-8 runs on
>> 20w50, and you decide to put in 5W50. You'll definitely see an
> improvement,
>> dino or synthetic.
>
> Really.
>
> Why would that be?

Different containers of oil in your garage?


--
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most basic part of a car: If you don't know that much about a car, you
really shouldn't be driving, should you?" - Jimmy Kimmel
ntlhell rolls a six... deathwind is disembowelled with a chainsaw, run over
with a rhino, fed to the fish and his computer taken away from him such
that he doesn't bore us with that inane rot ever again. - ntlhell - A.G.G-
T-A

In article <Qpv2b.282660$hOa.74350
@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>, sbigelowPOV@rogers.com says...
>
> "Joseph Wind" <jpg@gif.com> wrote in message
> news:bic7ae$fis$1@sun-news.laserlink.net...
>
> > Technically, The difference is what weight you use. If your V-8 runs on
> > 20w50, and you decide to put in 5W50. You'll definitely see an
> improvement,
> > dino or synthetic.
>
> Really.
>
> Why would that be?

W does not equal weight, it stands for winter. The point he was trying
to make that the thinner the oil the less it slugs down the engine.
(0w30 is thinner than 10w30.) The problem is if you go to thin the oil
just spills off the bearing surface which may not lubricate and valve
noise will also increase. Its best to stick with the grade of oil rated
for your car and climate.

"Bonnevilles R Kewl" <spam@b.gone> wrote in message
news:MPG.19b46a03efb7747f9897b0@news-server.woh.rr.com...
> > > Technically, The difference is what weight you use. If your V-8 runs
on
> > > 20w50, and you decide to put in 5W50. You'll definitely see an
> > improvement,
> > > dino or synthetic.
> >
> > Really.
> >
> > Why would that be?
>
> W does not equal weight, it stands for winter. The point he was trying
> to make that the thinner the oil the less it slugs down the engine.
> (0w30 is thinner than 10w30.)

Really.

And all this time, I thought 30=30!

The first # refers to the base weight of the oil. That is the weight it is
always. It has additives that make it perform like a 30 weight.A 10w30 is a
10 weight always,but performs like a 30 weight. If you want a straight
weight oil you would buy a 30w only.Which would be a thickerbased oil. I
have always heard of 5 weight oils. And I have seen the ones rated 0w
something,but always have wondered how you would have a zero weight oil.I
asked our distributor about this.He has a hard time also with this. He
thought that it must be at somewhere under 5 so that they could call it a
0w. Afterall wouldn't a zero weight be air or at least the viscosity of
diesel fuel. Also I asked him about how the newer cars are calling for
lighter oils in the crankcase. He says that it has to do with gas mileage of
the vehicles.You will get better gas mileage with a lighter based oil. I
perfer better protection then better gas mileage results. Stick with good
oil and you can't go far wrong.Just my two cents. Thanks
Malcom
"Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:uIy2b.29040$_V.25170@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
>
> "Bonnevilles R Kewl" <spam@b.gone> wrote in message
> news:MPG.19b46a03efb7747f9897b0@news-server.woh.rr.com...
> > > > Technically, The difference is what weight you use. If your V-8
runs
> on
> > > > 20w50, and you decide to put in 5W50. You'll definitely see an
> > > improvement,
> > > > dino or synthetic.
> > >
> > > Really.
> > >
> > > Why would that be?
> >
> > W does not equal weight, it stands for winter. The point he was trying
> > to make that the thinner the oil the less it slugs down the engine.
> > (0w30 is thinner than 10w30.)
>
> Really.
>
> And all this time, I thought 30=30!
>
>

"Malcom Gillette" <1mgillette1@cox.net> wrote in message
news:rvz2b.90049$Ij4.23983@news2.central.cox.net.. .
> The first # refers to the base weight of the oil.

No.

That is the weight it is
> always.

No.

It has additives that make it perform like a 30 weight.A 10w30 is a
> 10 weight always,but performs like a 30 weight.

That doesn't make a lick of sense.


If you want a straight
> weight oil you would buy a 30w only.Which would be a thickerbased oil. I
> have always heard of 5 weight oils.

Heard of?

And I have seen the ones rated 0w
> something,but always have wondered how you would have a zero weight oil.I
> asked our distributor about this.He has a hard time also with this. He
> thought that it must be at somewhere under 5 so that they could call it a
> 0w. Afterall wouldn't a zero weight be air or at least the viscosity of
> diesel fuel.

That's not a oil distributor, I hope.

Your all MAD I Tell YOu MAD MAD MAD.
Anyone putting in oil aditive or synthetic motor oil to
try and squeeze a couple extra horses is a lunitic.
First off your going to kill that engine much mucg sooner then it
would if you hadnt screwed with it, secondly...your NOT gaining Aything.
have you ever seen that little computer box in your engine compartment?
what do you suppose it does?
it keeps the engine running at optimum performance based on what
the mitsubishi engeniers deemed is perfect for that engine.
if you increase the engine weight or decrease it , the computer is going to
compensate
for it.
I also used to work at a stereo shop, and we had customers wo had convinced
themselvs
that this moster cable speaker wire sounded so much better than regular
wire.
the truth is there is no difference.
But since these customes had just laid out $200.00 for copper wire, of
course thier
little brains told them it sounded better.
i suspect the same type of self-pyscho-hypnosis is happening here.


"Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1sG2b.34351$_V.32205@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
>
> "Malcom Gillette" <1mgillette1@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:rvz2b.90049$Ij4.23983@news2.central.cox.net.. .
> > The first # refers to the base weight of the oil.
>
> No.
>
> That is the weight it is
> > always.
>
> No.
>
> It has additives that make it perform like a 30 weight.A 10w30 is a
> > 10 weight always,but performs like a 30 weight.
>
> That doesn't make a lick of sense.
>
>
> If you want a straight
> > weight oil you would buy a 30w only.Which would be a thickerbased oil. I
> > have always heard of 5 weight oils.
>
> Heard of?
>
> And I have seen the ones rated 0w
> > something,but always have wondered how you would have a zero weight
oil.I
> > asked our distributor about this.He has a hard time also with this. He
> > thought that it must be at somewhere under 5 so that they could call it
a
> > 0w. Afterall wouldn't a zero weight be air or at least the viscosity of
> > diesel fuel.
>
> That's not a oil distributor, I hope.
>
>

i just love oil threads......

"Anyone putting in oil aditive or synthetic motor oil to
try and squeeze a couple extra horses is a lunitic."

why? because you do not understand it?

"have you ever seen that little computer box in your engine compartment?
what do you suppose it does?"

yeah, mine's kinda' hacked: a 1995 ecu in a 1997 car, controlled by a dell
laptop and dsm-link software but it's not in the engine compartment and it
has nothing to do with oil........

"if you increase the engine weight or decrease it , the computer is going to
compensate for it."

total nonsense! i have an aluminum flywheel, aluminum underdrive pulley and
have both balance shafts removed (20 pounds or so lighter than stock.) and
the ecu couldn't give a rat's ass.
what sensor reports engine weight to the ecu? i don't believe this is an
obdII function.

"I also used to work at a stereo shop, and we had customers wo had
convinced
themselvs
that this moster cable speaker wire sounded so much better than regular
wire.
the truth is there is no difference.
But since these customes had just laid out $200.00 for copper wire, of
course thier
little brains told them it sounded better.
i suspect the same type of self-pyscho-hypnosis is happening here."

that's because monster sucks...try cardas, straightwire or audioquest for
better results.

techie you are not.......





"Techie" <Bladerunner1985@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:zII2b.3126$bu.1234268@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net ...
> Your all MAD I Tell YOu MAD MAD MAD.
> Anyone putting in oil aditive or synthetic motor oil to
> try and squeeze a couple extra horses is a lunitic.
> Anyone putting in oil aditive or synthetic motor oil to
> try and squeeze a couple extra horses is a lunitic.
> have you ever seen that little computer box in your engine compartment?
> what do you suppose it does?
> it keeps the engine running at optimum performance based on what
> the mitsubishi engeniers deemed is perfect for that engine.
> if you increase the engine weight or decrease it , the computer is going
to
> compensate
> for it.
> I also used to work at a stereo shop, and we had customers wo had
convinced
> themselvs
> that this moster cable speaker wire sounded so much better than regular
> wire.
> the truth is there is no difference.
> But since these customes had just laid out $200.00 for copper wire, of
> course thier
> little brains told them it sounded better.
> i suspect the same type of self-pyscho-hypnosis is happening here.
>
>
> "Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1sG2b.34351$_V.32205@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> >
> > "Malcom Gillette" <1mgillette1@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:rvz2b.90049$Ij4.23983@news2.central.cox.net.. .
> > > The first # refers to the base weight of the oil.
> >
> > No.
> >
> > That is the weight it is
> > > always.
> >
> > No.
> >
> > It has additives that make it perform like a 30 weight.A 10w30 is a
> > > 10 weight always,but performs like a 30 weight.
> >
> > That doesn't make a lick of sense.
> >
> >
> > If you want a straight
> > > weight oil you would buy a 30w only.Which would be a thickerbased oil.
I
> > > have always heard of 5 weight oils.
> >
> > Heard of?
> >
> > And I have seen the ones rated 0w
> > > something,but always have wondered how you would have a zero weight
> oil.I
> > > asked our distributor about this.He has a hard time also with this. He
> > > thought that it must be at somewhere under 5 so that they could call
it
> a
> > > 0w. Afterall wouldn't a zero weight be air or at least the viscosity
of
> > > diesel fuel.
> >
> > That's not a oil distributor, I hope.
> >
> >
>
>