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Old 13 Apr 2007, 10:05 am
Dave Smith
 
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Default Re: When are you too old to drive?

Adrian wrote:
>
>
> Just like the tosser in the car didn't *deliberately* swerve at him -
> heavens, no, why on earth would he do that? And, of course, he was coming
> back to apologise when the nasty man threw stones at his car all
> unprovoked.



Did you get lost in the sequence of events? I did not throw stones the
stones at him when he came back. On his first pass he came barrelling by
at a high rate of speed and so close that I was able to make contact with a
short stick I was carrying. He had lots of room to move over. I did not.
There was a ditch and no real shoulder. I was walking two large dogs...
hard to get moved over. Perhaps I should have mentioned that he blasted his
car horn at me. Apparently he thought I had no business walking on the
road. I was dressed in light clothes carrying a flashlight which was
pointed at the ground and being moved about so that it would not be
confused for an oncoming vehicle. I was walking on the proper side of the
road, and in this country cars drive on the right, so pedestrians walk on
the left.

He came back and yelled and screamed at me for being on the road, and for
being on the wrong side of the road. I was a pedestrian on the edge of the
road, since there was no shoulder, and he apparently was too stupid to know
which side of the road pedestrians are supposed to use. He threatened me,
saying that if he say me on the road again he would run me over. Then he
took off, went a few hundred yards to the a driveway where he turned
around, then came at a high rate of speed and veered toward me. I did step
back, getting out of his way and whipping the handful of stones at his car.

Call a cop and see who would go to jail.
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Old 13 Apr 2007, 11:42 am
Adrian
 
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Default Re: When are you too old to drive?

Dave Smith (adavidsmith@sympatico.ca) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :

>> Just like the tosser in the car didn't *deliberately* swerve at him -
>> heavens, no, why on earth would he do that? And, of course, he was
>> coming back to apologise when the nasty man threw stones at his car
>> all unprovoked.


> Did you get lost in the sequence of events?


Not at all.

Merely pointing out that Ian's suggested excuse can be worked both ways.

> I did not throw stones the stones at him when he came back.


Do forgive me...

I took "I stepped back and picked up a handful of 3/4inch gravel off a
driveway. ... I guess he wasn't expecting me to whip a handful of gravel
at his car when he did that." to mean that you DID throw stones at him.

> I did step back, getting out of his way and whipping the handful of
> stones at his car.


Thought you said you didn't throw stones?

> Call a cop and see who would go to jail.


<sigh>
Can you point me to anywhere that anybody's called the ****ing idiot in the
car anything other than a ****ing idiot?

I'm merely trying to point out that there were two ****ing idiots involved
- one who started it all, and one who decided to escalate it by lashing out
then lobbing stones, instead of taking the sensible course of action -
shaking your head at the total ****ing stupidity of your fellow mankind,
getting over it, and getting on with your day.
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Old 13 Apr 2007, 12:55 pm
Dave Smith
 
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Adrian wrote:
>
> > Did you get lost in the sequence of events?

>
> Not at all.
>
> Merely pointing out that Ian's suggested excuse can be worked both ways.
>
> > I did not throw stones the stones at him when he came back.

>
> Do forgive me...
>
> I took "I stepped back and picked up a handful of 3/4inch gravel off a
> driveway. ... I guess he wasn't expecting me to whip a handful of gravel
> at his car when he did that." to mean that you DID throw stones at him.
>


Indeed.... after he had taken a run at me, after he had threatened me and
then left, and turned around to take another run at me.


> > I did step back, getting out of his way and whipping the handful of
> > stones at his car.

>
> Thought you said you didn't throw stones?


Not when he came back the first time.... only on the third encounter with
the guy, when we came charging down at high speed and veered toward me
again.

>
> > Call a cop and see who would go to jail.



> I'm merely trying to point out that there were two ****ing idiots involved
> - one who started it all, and one who decided to escalate it by lashing out
> then lobbing stones, instead of taking the sensible course of action -
> shaking your head at the total ****ing stupidity of your fellow mankind,
> getting over it, and getting on with your day.


And allow that moron to go around threatening people with his car?
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Old 13 Apr 2007, 12:58 pm
Adrian
 
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Dave Smith (adavidsmith@sympatico.ca) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :

> And allow that moron to go around threatening people with his car?


How, exactly, did you prevent it ever happening again?
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Old 13 Apr 2007, 01:30 pm
Dave Smith
 
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Adrian wrote:
>
> Dave Smith (adavidsmith@sympatico.ca) gurgled happily, sounding much
> like they were saying :
>
> > And allow that moron to go around threatening people with his car?

>
> How, exactly, did you prevent it ever happening again?


Hopefully the next time he saw a someone walking along the road and though
it was his duty to chase the pedestrian off into the ditch he will remember
what happened the last time he tried it. Maybe he was stupid enough to go
to the police and tell them what happened and got tuned into the rules of
the road and that "dangerous driving" like that is a criminal offence.
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Old 13 Apr 2007, 01:45 pm
Adrian
 
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Dave Smith (adavidsmith@sympatico.ca) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :

>> > And allow that moron to go around threatening people with his car?


>> How, exactly, did you prevent it ever happening again?


> Hopefully the next time he saw a someone walking along the road and
> though it was his duty to chase the pedestrian off into the ditch he
> will remember what happened the last time he tried it.


Or maybe he'll just be even more irrational around pedestrians, since he'll
remember the one who twatted his car with a stick then threw stones at him.
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Old 13 Apr 2007, 01:57 pm
Pete M
 
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In news:461FC417.BCC3504C@sympatico.ca,
Dave Smith <adavidsmith@sympatico.ca> wittered on forthwith;
> Adrian wrote:


>> I'm merely trying to point out that there were two ****ing idiots
>> involved - one who started it all, and one who decided to escalate
>> it by lashing out then lobbing stones, instead of taking the
>> sensible course of action - shaking your head at the total ****ing
>> stupidity of your fellow mankind, getting over it, and getting on
>> with your day.

>
> And allow that moron to go around threatening people with his car?


I have to point out that if some idiot decided to a) deliberately hit my car
with a stick, and b) throw stones at it after shouting abuse at me (although
I wouldn't a) not leave room or b) swerve at a pedestrian so this should
never actually happen) then I'm afraid to say it'd be out with the
wheelbrace and I'd happily leave said pedestrian hopefully dead or dying in
a ditch.

I enjoy walking in the countryside, I also enjoy driving in the countryside,
I dont see why either activity should be frowned on by people doing the
other. If I'm walking down a dark country lane I leave room for traffic, If
I'm driving down same lane I leave room for pedestrians and even cyclists.

People seem to forget that pedestrians quite often drive, and drivers quite
often walk..


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Old 13 Apr 2007, 03:02 pm
Dave Smith
 
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Pete M wrote:
>
> > And allow that moron to go around threatening people with his car?

>
> I have to point out that if some idiot decided to a) deliberately hit my car
> with a stick, and b) throw stones at it after shouting abuse at me (although
> I wouldn't a) not leave room or b) swerve at a pedestrian so this should
> never actually happen) then I'm afraid to say it'd be out with the
> wheelbrace and I'd happily leave said pedestrian hopefully dead or dying in
> a ditch.


As would many. If you were a fellow like the one I encountered, who thinks
pedestrians have no right to be on and so unaware of the rules of the road
that you didn't know which side of the road people are supposed to walk on,
and thought that when travelling down a country road after dark way in
excess of the posted speed limit, that rather than maybe slowing down or at
the very least moving over a little to allow a safety margin, the
appropriate thing to do is to lean on the horn and get as close as
possible, you would probably be even more disposed to that attitude.

> I enjoy walking in the countryside, I also enjoy driving in the countryside,
> I dont see why either activity should be frowned on by people doing the
> other. If I'm walking down a dark country lane I leave room for traffic, If
> I'm driving down same lane I leave room for pedestrians and even cyclists.


Same here. I have no problem with people walking or riding on the road
when I am driving, or with people driving when I am walking or cycling. It
is a different matter when someone is driving in a manner that endangers my
safety.

> People seem to forget that pedestrians quite often drive, and drivers quite
> often walk..


If only drivers drove the way they expect others to drive when they walk,
and walkers walked the way they expect people to walk when they are
driving.
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Old 13 Apr 2007, 03:21 pm
Ian Johnston
 
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On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:57:30 +0100, Pete M wrote:

> I have to point out that if some idiot decided to a) deliberately hit my
> car with a stick, and b) throw stones at it after shouting abuse at me
> (although I wouldn't a) not leave room or b) swerve at a pedestrian so
> this should never actually happen) then I'm afraid to say it'd be out
> with the wheelbrace and I'd happily leave said pedestrian hopefully dead
> or dying in a ditch.


I think you may be over-reacting a little here. Are you really saying
that you would feel entirely justified in murdering someone if they hit
your car with a stick?

Ian
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Old 13 Apr 2007, 03:27 pm
Dave Smith
 
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Ian Johnston wrote:
>
>
>
> I think you may be over-reacting a little here. Are you really saying
> that you would feel entirely justified in murdering someone if they hit
> your car with a stick?


And after blasting the horn at the pedestrian and trying to force him to
jump into a ditch.
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