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I have a '98 2.5 TL with 70k. Lately I have to turn the key longer for it
to start - about twice to three times as long as when new. It still starts
fine everytime, but I'm concerned this may wear the starter. Any thoughts?
Tks,
MZ

"MZ" <martinzed@ NOSPAM gmail.com> wrote in
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> I have a '98 2.5 TL with 70k. Lately I have to turn the key longer
> for it to start - about twice to three times as long as when new. It
> still starts fine everytime, but I'm concerned this may wear the
> starter. Any thoughts? Tks,
> MZ
>
>
>


How old are the plug wires?

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"MZ" <martinzed@ NOSPAM gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have a '98 2.5 TL with 70k. Lately I have to turn the key longer for it
>to start - about twice to three times as long as when new. It still starts
>fine everytime, but I'm concerned this may wear the starter. Any thoughts?
> Tks,
> MZ
>
>

Try cranking for about half a second, letting the switch rest in the "run"
position for a few seconds, then starting. If the engine starts right away,
the fuel rail pressure is probably bleeding off.

If not that, do the usual tune-up things. Replace distributor cap, rotor and
plug wires with OEM parts if they are original, and replace the plugs
(ditto) with NGK plugs or OEM plugs. If you are not using top tier gasoline
regularly, a bottle of injector cleaner (most people favor Techron) in the
tank is in order. Make things right first, then troubleshoot.

Mike

MZ wrote:
> I have a '98 2.5 TL with 70k. Lately I have to turn the key longer for it
> to start - about twice to three times as long as when new. It still starts
> fine everytime, but I'm concerned this may wear the starter. Any thoughts?
> Tks,
> MZ

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X 2 about the injector cleaner. You may have a dribbling injector that's
bleeding your fuel rail pressure over time. Has it ever been WORSE on
Monday morning? I try too use injector cleaner 3 - 4 x per year.

'Curly'

MZ wrote:
> I have a '98 2.5 TL with 70k. Lately I have to turn the key longer for it
> to start - about twice to three times as long as when new. It still starts
> fine everytime, but I'm concerned this may wear the starter. Any thoughts?
> Tks,
> MZ
>
>

Is the cranking speed up to snuff? A great indicator of a tired main
battery is slower cranking and slower starting. How old is the battery?

John

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "MZ" <martinzed@ NOSPAM gmail.com> wrote in
> news:4665cb09$0$4060$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net:
>
>> I have a '98 2.5 TL with 70k. Lately I have to turn the key longer
>> for it to start - about twice to three times as long as when new. It
>> still starts fine everytime, but I'm concerned this may wear the
>> starter. Any thoughts? Tks,
>> MZ
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> How old are the plug wires?

Probably original. Plugs are 1yr old. Come to think of it, sometimes it
"lopes" right after being started as well.

MZ

"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> MZ wrote:
>> I have a '98 2.5 TL with 70k. Lately I have to turn the key longer for
>> it to start - about twice to three times as long as when new. It still
>> starts fine everytime, but I'm concerned this may wear the starter. Any
>> thoughts?
>> Tks,
>> MZ
>
> Is the cranking speed up to snuff? A great indicator of a tired main
> battery is slower cranking and slower starting. How old is the battery?
>
> John

Battery is good - couple yrs old, not much use.
MZ

"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
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> "MZ" <martinzed@ NOSPAM gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4665cb09$0$4060$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
>>I have a '98 2.5 TL with 70k. Lately I have to turn the key longer for it
>>to start - about twice to three times as long as when new. It still
>>starts fine everytime, but I'm concerned this may wear the starter. Any
>>thoughts?
>> Tks,
>> MZ
>>
>>
>
> Try cranking for about half a second, letting the switch rest in the "run"
> position for a few seconds, then starting. If the engine starts right
> away, the fuel rail pressure is probably bleeding off.
>
> If not that, do the usual tune-up things. Replace distributor cap, rotor
> and plug wires with OEM parts if they are original, and replace the plugs
> (ditto) with NGK plugs or OEM plugs. If you are not using top tier
> gasoline regularly, a bottle of injector cleaner (most people favor
> Techron) in the tank is in order. Make things right first, then
> troubleshoot.
>
> Mike

I always turn the key and wait for the "buzzer" to go off before attempting
to start. Always use premium fuel also. Have never used injector cleaner -
have always been skeptical. Will consider though.

Thanks,
MZ



>
>
>

"motsco_" <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in message
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> MZ wrote:
>> I have a '98 2.5 TL with 70k. Lately I have to turn the key longer for
>> it to start - about twice to three times as long as when new. It still
>> starts fine everytime, but I'm concerned this may wear the starter. Any
>> thoughts?
>> Tks,
>> MZ
>
> -------------------------------
>
> X 2 about the injector cleaner. You may have a dribbling injector that's
> bleeding your fuel rail pressure over time. Has it ever been WORSE on
> Monday morning?

Not that I've noticed.

Have never used injector cleaner - have always been skeptical. Will
consider though.
Thanks,
MZ

"MZ" <martinzed@ NOSPAM gmail.com> wrote in
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>
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:hYGdnfWKO8UVjfvbnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@sedona.net.. .
>> "MZ" <martinzed@ NOSPAM gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4665cb09$0$4060$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
>>>I have a '98 2.5 TL with 70k. Lately I have to turn the key longer
>>>for it to start - about twice to three times as long as when new. It
>>>still starts fine everytime, but I'm concerned this may wear the
>>>starter. Any thoughts?
>>> Tks,
>>> MZ
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Try cranking for about half a second, letting the switch rest in the
>> "run" position for a few seconds, then starting. If the engine starts
>> right away, the fuel rail pressure is probably bleeding off.
>>
>> If not that, do the usual tune-up things. Replace distributor cap,
>> rotor and plug wires with OEM parts if they are original, and replace
>> the plugs (ditto) with NGK plugs or OEM plugs. If you are not using
>> top tier gasoline regularly, a bottle of injector cleaner (most
>> people favor Techron) in the tank is in order. Make things right
>> first, then troubleshoot.
>>
>> Mike
>
> I always turn the key and wait for the "buzzer" to go off before
> attempting to start. Always use premium fuel also. Have never used
> injector cleaner - have always been skeptical. Will consider though.
>
> Thanks,
> MZ
>
Does the manual CALL for premium gas?
If not,you're wasting money for nothing.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net