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Old 06 Apr 2007, 10:25 am
firewolf
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Default ATF Flush at 26K ?


04 TSX AT @ 26K

The car is overdue for 25K (or 20K ?) service
Should I do a full ATF flush/change ?
And can any ordinary, non-dealership shop do this ? (meaning do they has the
proper equiptments)
How much does it cost on average ?

thanks


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Old 06 Apr 2007, 11:58 am
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Default Re: ATF Flush at 26K ?

firewolf wrote:
> 04 TSX AT @ 26K
>
> The car is overdue for 25K (or 20K ?) service
> Should I do a full ATF flush/change ?
> And can any ordinary, non-dealership shop do this ? (meaning do they has the
> proper equiptments)
> How much does it cost on average ?
>
> thanks


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Don't use the word FLUSH when describing a Honda or Acura. You NEVER
'power flush' that kind of tranny.

Take the OEM fluid to your mechanic (or Monkey-Lube) and have them drain
and refill. I'd do it again a week later also, since you can never
change ALL the fluid. I actually do it THREE times on any used car I
buy, but yours is fairly new.

'Curly'
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Old 06 Apr 2007, 01:02 pm
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Default Re: ATF Flush at 26K ?


"motsco_"
> Don't use the word FLUSH when describing a Honda or Acura. You NEVER
> 'power flush' that kind of tranny.
>
> Take the OEM fluid to your mechanic (or Monkey-Lube) and have them drain
> and refill. I'd do it again a week later also, since you can never change
> ALL the fluid. I actually do it THREE times on any used car I buy, but
> yours is fairly new.
>
> 'Curly'


Really ?
not supposed to flush the tranny with one of those fancy power-flush
equiptment I read about
?
why ?


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Old 06 Apr 2007, 08:22 pm
John Horner
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Default Re: ATF Flush at 26K ?

firewolf wrote:
> 04 TSX AT @ 26K
>
> The car is overdue for 25K (or 20K ?) service
> Should I do a full ATF flush/change ?
> And can any ordinary, non-dealership shop do this ? (meaning do they has the
> proper equiptments)
> How much does it cost on average ?
>
> thanks
>
>


The Honda owners and service manual specifically say to use multiple
drain-fill-drive cycles to do a complete transmission fluid change.
Four times over, in fact. Also it is important to use the right fluid,
which unfortunately is only sold by Honda/Acura dealers, ATF-Z1. The
Honda method is quite easy to do, if time consuming. Shops love the
flush machines because they are fast, but I suspect Honda has some good
reason for not wanting the machine used.

I do this change out cycle once every 30k miles on our Honda/Acuras.

John
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Old 06 Apr 2007, 10:06 pm
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Default Re: ATF Flush at 26K ?

firewolf wrote:
> "motsco_"
>> Don't use the word FLUSH when describing a Honda or Acura. You NEVER
>> 'power flush' that kind of tranny.
>>
>> Take the OEM fluid to your mechanic (or Monkey-Lube) and have them drain
>> and refill. I'd do it again a week later also, since you can never change
>> ALL the fluid. I actually do it THREE times on any used car I buy, but
>> yours is fairly new.
>>
>> 'Curly'

>
> Really ?
> not supposed to flush the tranny with one of those fancy power-flush
> equiptment I read about
> ?
> why ?


-----------------------------------

Murphy's Law states that they have an 80% chance of hooking it up
BACKWARDS, which would back-flush the contents of the internal filter
throughout the whole tranny :-(

'Curly'
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Old 07 Apr 2007, 02:36 am
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Default Re: ATF Flush at 26K ?

Is there some reason why my Acura dealer here in PDX
would recommend a $150.00 flush when it's not
supposed to be done?

Other than a $$$ motive that is.
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"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> firewolf wrote:
>> 04 TSX AT @ 26K
>>
>> The car is overdue for 25K (or 20K ?) service
>> Should I do a full ATF flush/change ?
>> And can any ordinary, non-dealership shop do this ? (meaning do they has
>> the proper equiptments)
>> How much does it cost on average ?
>>
>> thanks

>
> The Honda owners and service manual specifically say to use multiple
> drain-fill-drive cycles to do a complete transmission fluid change. Four
> times over, in fact. Also it is important to use the right fluid, which
> unfortunately is only sold by Honda/Acura dealers, ATF-Z1. The Honda
> method is quite easy to do, if time consuming. Shops love the flush
> machines because they are fast, but I suspect Honda has some good reason
> for not wanting the machine used.
>
> I do this change out cycle once every 30k miles on our Honda/Acuras.
>
> John



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Old 07 Apr 2007, 08:26 am
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Default Re: ATF Flush at 26K ?

On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 00:36:58 -0700, "Ron Marraccini"
<ronm@ramlegal.com> wrote:

>Is there some reason why my Acura dealer here in PDX
>would recommend a $150.00 flush when it's not
>supposed to be done?
>
>Other than a $$$ motive that is.


What other motive does he need?

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Old 07 Apr 2007, 08:45 am
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Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 00:36:58 -0700, "Ron Marraccini"
> <ronm@ramlegal.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there some reason why my Acura dealer here in PDX
>> would recommend a $150.00 flush when it's not
>> supposed to be done?
>>
>> Other than a $$$ motive that is.

>
> What other motive does he need?


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If there's another motive out there, I'd like to hear it too!

'Curly'
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Old 07 Apr 2007, 10:51 am
Ron Marraccini
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Default Re: ATF Flush at 26K ?

Wouldn't they be liable for any damage caused?


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> Gordon McGrew wrote:
>> On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 00:36:58 -0700, "Ron Marraccini"
>> <ronm@ramlegal.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there some reason why my Acura dealer here in PDX
>>> would recommend a $150.00 flush when it's not
>>> supposed to be done?
>>>
>>> Other than a $$$ motive that is.

>>
>> What other motive does he need?

>
> -----------------------------
>
> If there's another motive out there, I'd like to hear it too!
>
> 'Curly'



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Old 08 Apr 2007, 12:53 pm
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Default Re: ATF Flush at 26K ?

Ron Marraccini wrote:
> Wouldn't they be liable for any damage caused?
>

---------------------------------------

Read page four of this Honda bulletin:

http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SN/a060200.PDF


'Curly'
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