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Old 31 Mar 2007, 01:46 pm
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Default 99 GSR Flooding

when first turning the key on, the check engine light goes out after 2
seconds but the fuel pump keeps running.the throttle body and cylinders
end up with raw gas in them.if you do try to start the engine it would
turn over but not fire and then stops turning over until you remove spark
plugs and hear pressure coming out of cylinders

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Old 31 Mar 2007, 03:33 pm
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"bill1618" <bill1618@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> when first turning the key on, the check engine light goes out after 2
> seconds but the fuel pump keeps running.the throttle body and cylinders
> end up with raw gas in them.if you do try to start the engine it would
> turn over but not fire and then stops turning over until you remove spark
> plugs and hear pressure coming out of cylinders
>



Wow. My '92 Teg floods sometimes, usually when I accidentally hit the gas as
I turn the key, & when it does flood, I have to wait at least 60-90 seconds
till it'll stay on. I've never done all that removing the spark plugs & all,
though.


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Old 31 Mar 2007, 04:58 pm
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"bill1618" <bill1618@comcast.net> wrote in
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> when first turning the key on, the check engine light goes out after 2
> seconds but the fuel pump keeps running.




You're SURE about this? Do you hear ALL THREE CLICKS from the Main Relay?

* Turn ignition to ON (but not to START): Click 1
* Check Engine light goes off: Click 2
* You now turn the key to START: Click 3




> the throttle body and cylinders
> end up with raw gas in them.if you do try to start the engine it would
> turn over but not fire and then stops turning over until you remove spark
> plugs and hear pressure coming out of cylinders
>



Are you certain you have spark at the plugs?


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Old 31 Mar 2007, 06:02 pm
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Default Re: 99 GSR Flooding

i'm not sure on the 3 clicks as i've not been able to find the main relay
yet but am sure of the check engine light going off and still hear the
fuel pump running until i turn the key off

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Old 31 Mar 2007, 07:01 pm
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"bill1618" <bill1618@comcast.net> wrote in
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> i'm not sure on the 3 clicks



Then get sure of it. Without that info, you're stumbling around in the
dark.



> as i've not been able to find the main relay
> yet



It's on the right-hand side of the car, above the kick panel, behind the
glove box.



> but am sure of the check engine light going off and still hear the
> fuel pump running until i turn the key off
>



Then Terminal 8 is being permanently grounded.

ANY modifications of ANY kind to the car's electrical system?
Radio? Remote start? Alarm?



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Old 31 Mar 2007, 10:04 pm
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Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
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> "bill1618" <bill1618@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:927600618d1a273c781eaf542f689f57@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com:



>> as i've not been able to find the main relay
>> yet

>
>
> It's on the right-hand side of the car, above the kick panel, behind the
> glove box.
>
>


On my 94 GSR,it was on the drivers side.



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Old 01 Apr 2007, 01:24 pm
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found the main relay on the drivers side above the kick panel. only getting
the one click when key is turned on.traced the wire from terminal 8 back to
the epu.when i touch the cut ends together i can hear the relay pick and
fuel pump turn on, remove them and alls quiet. could a bad crank position
sensor be causing this or a bad epu?

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Old 01 Apr 2007, 02:55 pm
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"bill1618" <bill1618@comcast.net> wrote in
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> found the main relay on the drivers side above the kick panel. only
> getting the one click when key is turned on.




Which click do you hear?

What does the Check Engine light do? Does it turn on with the first click,
then go off with the second? Does it never go off? Does it never come on?



> traced the wire from
> terminal 8 back to the epu.when i touch the cut ends together




"Cut ends"? Uh-oh. Bad. Why is the wire "cut"?



> i can
> hear the relay pick and fuel pump turn on, remove them and alls quiet.
> could a bad crank position sensor be causing this or a bad epu?
>



Most likely neither of those, but you MUST note and report the EXACT click
you hear, plus the PRECISE operation of the Check Engine light. These are
critically important.





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Old 01 Apr 2007, 04:01 pm
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Which click do you hear? only the first one

What does the Check Engine light do? Does it turn on with the first
click,
then go off with the second? Does it never go off? Does it never come on?
yes it turns on with the first click,then goes out after two seconds but no
click is heard then and the fuel pump stays running.

Cut ends"? Uh-oh. Bad. Why is the wire "cut"?
i cut the wire myself to see if the fuel pump would stop running or not.it
did stop and also of course could hear the click from the relay dropping.


i can
> hear the relay pick and fuel pump turn on, remove them and alls quiet.
> could a bad crank position sensor be causing this or a bad epu?
>



Most likely neither of those, but you MUST note and report the EXACT
click

you hear, plus the PRECISE operation of the Check Engine light. These are

critically important.

something is keeping terminal 8 grounded thru the epu. what can cause
that????



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Old 01 Apr 2007, 05:28 pm
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"bill1618" <bill1618@comcast.net> wrote in
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> found the main relay on the drivers side above the kick panel. only
> getting the one click when key is turned on.traced the wire from
> terminal 8 back to the epu.when i touch the cut ends together i can
> hear the relay pick and fuel pump turn on, remove them and alls quiet.
> could a bad crank position sensor be causing this or a bad epu?
>


well,you could eliminate the relay as a problem by pulling it and
resoldering the PCB inside it. Take about 1/2 hr.

I sure would not be cutting any wires.

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