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Old 19 Dec 2007, 07:27 am
** Frank **
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Default Need to replace the Integra inner CV boot on the front wheel drive

Haven't replace one of those before. The inner boot is split but the outer
boot looks like in good condition, so do I replace just the inner one or do
both the inner and outer at the same time?

If I buy a rebuild axle drive assembly, does it come with the boots? It that
a good option? I hear its not that expensive if I return the core.

What are the special tools required for removing the axle on the Integra?

Lastly, I see there is a split boot on the net that doesn't require removing
the drive assembly but the Acura dealer doesn't offer it. Are those split
boots any good? Thanks all in advance.




























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Old 19 Dec 2007, 11:32 am
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Default Re: Need to replace the Integra inner CV boot on the front wheeldrive

** Frank ** wrote:
> Haven't replace one of those before. The inner boot is split but the outer
> boot looks like in good condition, so do I replace just the inner one or do
> both the inner and outer at the same time?
>
> If I buy a rebuild axle drive assembly, does it come with the boots? It that
> a good option? I hear its not that expensive if I return the core.
>
> What are the special tools required for removing the axle on the Integra?
>
> Lastly, I see there is a split boot on the net that doesn't require removing
> the drive assembly but the Acura dealer doesn't offer it. Are those split
> boots any good? Thanks all in advance.
>

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No,
no,
yes,
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true,
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#driveline,
no, avoid them,
you're welcome.
Merry Christmas.

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Old 20 Dec 2007, 06:20 am
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Default Re: Need to replace the Integra inner CV boot on the front wheel drive

"** Frank **" <noemall@xyz.net> wrote in
news:JpadndyJbsL9gfTanZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@comcast.com:

> Haven't replace one of those before. The inner boot is split but the
> outer boot looks like in good condition, so do I replace just the
> inner one or do both the inner and outer at the same time?
>
> If I buy a rebuild axle drive assembly, does it come with the boots?
> It that a good option? I hear its not that expensive if I return the
> core.



Replacing the whole shaft is a better option at this point. Since the
inner boot's been split for some unknown length of time, the probability
of dirt in the joint is high.

Aftermarket rebuilt shafts come with (very cheap) boots and are
notoriously unreliable. I have seen them noisy right out of the box.
Count on early boot failure (in as little as six months sometimes), and
be prepared to have to tear in there several times unless you get lucky
and your new shafts are noise-free the first time.

A better decision would be to call a local wrecking yard. They have
large numbers of actual un-rebuilt OEM shafts with good OEM CV joints
and OEM boots. Go aftermarket only if you can't locate actual OEM shafts
at the wreckers.

If you decide to use aftermarket, remember to loosen the small boot band
on the inner joint after shaft installation and allow some air to enter
the boot. If you don't do this, the inner boot will be puckered as the
shaft is extended, and the boot will fail within a few weeks.


>
> What are the special tools required for removing the axle on the
> Integra?




Ball joint puller. A rubber-headed dead-blow mallet (or a brass-headed
one) to help get the axles out of the hubs. A jack so the hub doesn't
dangle on the bushings when the suspension is apart.

And drain the tranny first if you're removing the shaft on the side away
from the center bearing.

Buy a new stake nut and cotter pin.

Ask for more details on the ball joint puller.



>
> Lastly, I see there is a split boot on the net that doesn't require
> removing the drive assembly but the Acura dealer doesn't offer it. Are
> those split boots any good? Thanks all in advance.
>
>



Acura doesn't offer such a boot because it usually doesn't work and is a
stupid aftermarket sop to people who are too lazy/cheap to do the job
right. Don't be one of those.


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Old 20 Dec 2007, 07:43 am
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Default Re: Need to replace the Integra inner CV boot on the front wheel drive

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:20:35 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m>
wrote:

>"** Frank **" <noemall@xyz.net> wrote in
>news:JpadndyJbsL9gfTanZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@comcast.com :
>
>> Haven't replace one of those before. The inner boot is split but the
>> outer boot looks like in good condition, so do I replace just the
>> inner one or do both the inner and outer at the same time?
>>
>> If I buy a rebuild axle drive assembly, does it come with the boots?
>> It that a good option? I hear its not that expensive if I return the
>> core.

>
>
>Replacing the whole shaft is a better option at this point. Since the
>inner boot's been split for some unknown length of time, the probability
>of dirt in the joint is high.
>
>Aftermarket rebuilt shafts come with (very cheap) boots and are
>notoriously unreliable. I have seen them noisy right out of the box.
>Count on early boot failure (in as little as six months sometimes), and
>be prepared to have to tear in there several times unless you get lucky
>and your new shafts are noise-free the first time.
>
>A better decision would be to call a local wrecking yard. They have
>large numbers of actual un-rebuilt OEM shafts with good OEM CV joints
>and OEM boots. Go aftermarket only if you can't locate actual OEM shafts
>at the wreckers.
>
>If you decide to use aftermarket, remember to loosen the small boot band
>on the inner joint after shaft installation and allow some air to enter
>the boot. If you don't do this, the inner boot will be puckered as the
>shaft is extended, and the boot will fail within a few weeks.
>
>
>>
>> What are the special tools required for removing the axle on the
>> Integra?

>
>
>
>Ball joint puller. A rubber-headed dead-blow mallet (or a brass-headed
>one) to help get the axles out of the hubs. A jack so the hub doesn't
>dangle on the bushings when the suspension is apart.
>
>And drain the tranny first if you're removing the shaft on the side away
>from the center bearing.
>
>Buy a new stake nut and cotter pin.
>
>Ask for more details on the ball joint puller.
>
>
>
>>
>> Lastly, I see there is a split boot on the net that doesn't require
>> removing the drive assembly but the Acura dealer doesn't offer it. Are
>> those split boots any good? Thanks all in advance.
>>
>>

>
>
>Acura doesn't offer such a boot because it usually doesn't work and is a
>stupid aftermarket sop to people who are too lazy/cheap to do the job
>right. Don't be one of those.



I would disagree with Tegger on going aftermarket on the Axles. I have
bought brand new ones from Cardone on both my Integra and Accord and
have them over two years now without any issues (knock on wood). They
also have a lifetime warranty so if they do fail, you can get them
swapped out.



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Old 20 Dec 2007, 08:37 am
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nick@nowhere.com wrote:

>
> I would disagree with Tegger on going aftermarket on the Axles. I have
> bought brand new ones from Cardone on both my Integra and Accord and
> have them over two years now without any issues (knock on wood). They
> also have a lifetime warranty so if they do fail, you can get them
> swapped out.
>

-----------------------

To balance the discussion, I have one that has a vibration when turning
_right out of the box_. Sadly, I got the shafts from TWO different
suppliers the same week and I can't tell which one is the bad one :-(

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Old 20 Dec 2007, 10:27 am
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Default Re: Need to replace the Integra inner CV boot on the front wheel drive

Great info Tegger, much appreciated ... Frank


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Old 21 Dec 2007, 12:47 pm
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Default Re: Need to replace the Integra inner CV boot on the front wheel drive

nick@nowhere.com wrote in
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> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:20:35 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m>
> wrote:
>


>>
>>A better decision would be to call a local wrecking yard. They have
>>large numbers of actual un-rebuilt OEM shafts with good OEM CV joints
>>and OEM boots. Go aftermarket only if you can't locate actual OEM
>>shafts at the wreckers.
>>



<snip>


>
>
> I would disagree with Tegger on going aftermarket on the Axles. I have
> bought brand new ones from Cardone on both my Integra and Accord and
> have them over two years now without any issues (knock on wood).





Two years? I'm not impressed. If those boots are still good in another five
years, then come and tell me.



> They
> also have a lifetime warranty so if they do fail, you can get them
> swapped out.
>



What a hassle. Most people would prefer to do it once and not have to do it
again.


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Old 23 Dec 2007, 09:55 pm
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Default Re: Need to replace the Integra inner CV boot on the front wheel drive

On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:47:35 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m>
wrote:

>nick@nowhere.com wrote in
>news:r7skm39bo5urcs3m90uef1teon74c7dn60@4ax.com :
>
>> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:20:35 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m>
>> wrote:
>>

>
>>>
>>>A better decision would be to call a local wrecking yard. They have
>>>large numbers of actual un-rebuilt OEM shafts with good OEM CV joints
>>>and OEM boots. Go aftermarket only if you can't locate actual OEM
>>>shafts at the wreckers.
>>>

>
>
><snip>
>
>
>>
>>
>> I would disagree with Tegger on going aftermarket on the Axles. I have
>> bought brand new ones from Cardone on both my Integra and Accord and
>> have them over two years now without any issues (knock on wood).

>
>
>
>
>Two years? I'm not impressed. If those boots are still good in another five
>years, then come and tell me.
>
>
>
>> They
>> also have a lifetime warranty so if they do fail, you can get them
>> swapped out.
>>

>
>
>What a hassle. Most people would prefer to do it once and not have to do it
>again.


Well it's your choice... You could pay $600 for OEM ones of $200 for
aftermarket. I don't see it as a hassle for something that will take
me an hr to do this the next time it occurs. Also it's not two years
but rather three on my Integra not that it matters.



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Old 24 Dec 2007, 06:55 pm
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nick@nowhere.com wrote in
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>
> Well it's your choice... You could pay $600 for OEM ones of $200 for
> aftermarket.



New boots are not $600.

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Old 26 Dec 2007, 04:30 pm
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 00:55:38 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m>
wrote:

>nick@nowhere.com wrote in
>news:f9bum3tjors896i3fihc81i3auat5kl6jj@4ax.com :
>
>
>>
>> Well it's your choice... You could pay $600 for OEM ones of $200 for
>> aftermarket.

>
>
>New boots are not $600.


Sorry I was referring to the entire axle.
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