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Old 20 Nov 2007, 11:00 am
nick@nowhere.com
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Default 08 Acura TSX

Hello everyone,


I've been looking at getting a new TSX in the next few weeks.
I've never owned a car with leather seats and one thing that has been
bothering me is what happens to the leather after a few years. I'm
worried about the ridges that form. I've seen pictures on ebay of cars
after a two years of use and am very concerned. Will these ridges
eventually lead to cracks in the leather? I think that the grey
leather seats are less likely to show the creases, what does everyone
else think? Also I don't weigh much so the cold bothers me...will the
leather get as cold as the steering wheel feels doing the cold months
in the winter?


Thanks in advance

Nick

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Old 20 Nov 2007, 11:12 am
John Horner
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nick@nowhere.com wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
>
> I've been looking at getting a new TSX in the next few weeks.
> I've never owned a car with leather seats and one thing that has been
> bothering me is what happens to the leather after a few years. I'm
> worried about the ridges that form. I've seen pictures on ebay of cars
> after a two years of use and am very concerned. Will these ridges
> eventually lead to cracks in the leather? I think that the grey
> leather seats are less likely to show the creases, what does everyone
> else think? Also I don't weigh much so the cold bothers me...will the
> leather get as cold as the steering wheel feels doing the cold months
> in the winter?
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Nick
>


I've owned multiple cars with leather seats, including a now 1.5 year
old TSX. Clean and treat them one per year with the Lexol Cleaner then
Lexol Conditioner or an equivalent set of products and you can expect
good long life from them.

BTW, there are few differences between the '07 and '08 TSX, so if there
are good discounts on leftovers it is worth considering. Also, size
wise it is close to a Civic. I sometimes wonder if I wouldn't have been
smarter to get a fully equipped Civic instead of the TSX.

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Old 20 Nov 2007, 12:40 pm
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Default Re: 08 Acura TSX

On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:12:46 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>nick@nowhere.com wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>
>> I've been looking at getting a new TSX in the next few weeks.
>> I've never owned a car with leather seats and one thing that has been
>> bothering me is what happens to the leather after a few years. I'm
>> worried about the ridges that form. I've seen pictures on ebay of cars
>> after a two years of use and am very concerned. Will these ridges
>> eventually lead to cracks in the leather? I think that the grey
>> leather seats are less likely to show the creases, what does everyone
>> else think? Also I don't weigh much so the cold bothers me...will the
>> leather get as cold as the steering wheel feels doing the cold months
>> in the winter?
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Nick
>>

>
>I've owned multiple cars with leather seats, including a now 1.5 year
>old TSX. Clean and treat them one per year with the Lexol Cleaner then
>Lexol Conditioner or an equivalent set of products and you can expect
>good long life from them.
>
>BTW, there are few differences between the '07 and '08 TSX, so if there
>are good discounts on leftovers it is worth considering. Also, size
>wise it is close to a Civic. I sometimes wonder if I wouldn't have been
>smarter to get a fully equipped Civic instead of the TSX.


Thanks for the advice...I too was looking at the Civic, but after I
got into the car and saw the double dash, there was no way that I
could get adjusted to the difference...It just felt like something was
wrong with the setup...not to mention how long the dash is. My current
car is a 95 Integra LS so size is probably going to be close to the
same which I want. The new Accord is too big for me.

Nick
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Old 20 Nov 2007, 04:22 pm
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Default Re: 08 Acura TSX

On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:00:51 -0500, nick@nowhere.com wrote:

>Hello everyone,
>
>
> I've been looking at getting a new TSX in the next few weeks.
>I've never owned a car with leather seats and one thing that has been
>bothering me is what happens to the leather after a few years. I'm
>worried about the ridges that form. I've seen pictures on ebay of cars
>after a two years of use and am very concerned. Will these ridges
>eventually lead to cracks in the leather? I think that the grey
>leather seats are less likely to show the creases, what does everyone
>else think? Also I don't weigh much so the cold bothers me...will the
>leather get as cold as the steering wheel feels doing the cold months
>in the winter?
>
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Nick

Ditto on the Lexol treatment. It's really great stuff. My 2000 TL
with 43k miles has no cracks.

I think the '08 TSX has heated seats. If so, the cold is no problem.

DC
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Old 20 Nov 2007, 07:24 pm
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"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> nick@nowhere.com wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>
>> I've been looking at getting a new TSX in the next few weeks.
>> I've never owned a car with leather seats and one thing that has been
>> bothering me is what happens to the leather after a few years. I'm
>> worried about the ridges that form. I've seen pictures on ebay of cars
>> after a two years of use and am very concerned. Will these ridges
>> eventually lead to cracks in the leather? I think that the grey
>> leather seats are less likely to show the creases, what does everyone
>> else think? Also I don't weigh much so the cold bothers me...will the
>> leather get as cold as the steering wheel feels doing the cold months
>> in the winter?
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Nick
>>

>
> I've owned multiple cars with leather seats, including a now 1.5 year old
> TSX. Clean and treat them one per year with the Lexol Cleaner then Lexol
> Conditioner or an equivalent set of products and you can expect good long
> life from them.
>
> BTW, there are few differences between the '07 and '08 TSX, so if there
> are good discounts on leftovers it is worth considering. Also, size wise
> it is close to a Civic. I sometimes wonder if I wouldn't have been
> smarter to get a fully equipped Civic instead of the TSX.


From the rear, the TSX is close to looking like the older Civic. Given the
price of the TSX around here -- about 30k, the Civic SI offers more for
the money.
>



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Old 20 Nov 2007, 08:41 pm
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Nick,

I've got an '06 TSX and the leather still looks fine. There are some
people here who say that you shouldn't do anything to the leather. My
thoughts are that the Acura dealer sells leather cleaner, so if you use
the proper product, it sure can't hurt it.

As far as cold is concerned, all TSXes have heated front seats. In the
winter, when the car is in the garage overnight, the seats aren't cold.
After sitting out in the cold for 9 hours at work, the heated seats are
a blessing.

Comparing a TSX to a Civic, the Civic is a great car, but the Civic and
TSX are aimed at different markets. The TSX has many more standard
features that aren't even available on the Civic and unless you get the
Civic Si, the TSX really out performs the Civic.

The Civic is a people mover while the TSX is more entry-level luxury.
Remember, outside of North America, the TSX is sold as an Accord. I'd
love to see the V6 from the U.S. Accord available in the TSX, but then
it might get too close to the TL in performance, so that's not likely
to happen.

I also agree with the poster who said to get a left-over '07 TSX since
there are no differences between it and an '08.
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Old 21 Nov 2007, 08:49 pm
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<nick@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Hello everyone,
>
>
> I've been looking at getting a new TSX in the next few weeks.
> I've never owned a car with leather seats and one thing that has been
> bothering me is what happens to the leather after a few years. I'm
> worried about the ridges that form. I've seen pictures on ebay of cars
> after a two years of use and am very concerned. Will these ridges
> eventually lead to cracks in the leather? I think that the grey
> leather seats are less likely to show the creases, what does everyone
> else think? Also I don't weigh much so the cold bothers me...will the
> leather get as cold as the steering wheel feels doing the cold months
> in the winter?
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Nick
>


Purchased four new cars with leather: Acura, Honda, Toyota and Volvo. I
don't anything to it, just keep it clean and keep it parked in the garage
away from extreme heat and cold. Toyota, 7 years and still looks good.
Acura, had it for four years until it got stolen but up to that point the
leather looked new. Honda, had it for 1 year and of course looks new. The
leather on the Volvo being the oldest - got dry in time and start to show
age in about 15 years but no cracks and still usable after 20 years, than I
gave that sucker away. Good quality leather will last a long time and well
worth the additional cost, imho. Get heated seat if you worry about leather
getting cold. I'm in the Bay Area so cold seat wouldn't be much of a
problem. Volvo had heated seats but the heating circuit went bad after 10
years.


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Old 22 Nov 2007, 11:00 pm
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Bob wrote:

>
> Comparing a TSX to a Civic, the Civic is a great car, but the Civic and
> TSX are aimed at different markets. The TSX has many more standard
> features that aren't even available on the Civic and unless you get the
> Civic Si, the TSX really out performs the Civic.
>


For 2008 Civic is available in EX-L trim with or without Navigation,
which in practice puts the equipment level very close to a TSX.

The real bargain right now would be any leftover 2007 EX-L Accords.

Part of the price difference between Hondas and Acuras is snob appeal
which means higher profits for Honda on the Acura sales. The actual
differences are pretty minimal, especially considering that elsewhere in
the world an Acura TSX is just a well equipped Accord.
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Old 24 Nov 2007, 08:44 am
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"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Bob wrote:
>
>>
>> Comparing a TSX to a Civic, the Civic is a great car, but the Civic and
>> TSX are aimed at different markets. The TSX has many more standard
>> features that aren't even available on the Civic and unless you get the
>> Civic Si, the TSX really out performs the Civic.

>
> For 2008 Civic is available in EX-L trim with or without Navigation, which
> in practice puts the equipment level very close to a TSX.
>
> The real bargain right now would be any leftover 2007 EX-L Accords.
>
> Part of the price difference between Hondas and Acuras is snob appeal
> which means higher profits for Honda on the Acura sales. The actual
> differences are pretty minimal, especially considering that elsewhere in
> the world an Acura TSX is just a well equipped Accord.


Years ago, the sign of having "arrived" was the purchase of a Caddy or a
Lincoln Continental. I guess buying an Acura is the Honda owners statement
of today -- at least for those who need to make the statement. I always
liked the RSX S, which now has been replaced by the Civic SI. It would have
been preferable, in my opinion, if the European Honda had been transplanted
(less the snob appeal) as an Accord R replacement for the Prelude -- which I
dearly loved, but my wife hated. Of course, the new Accord EX 5 spd with
190 hp comes close, but is bigger. But then, at age 66 I don't care if I
have "arrived" any longer.


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Old 24 Nov 2007, 11:49 am
John Horner
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tww1491 wrote:

>
> Years ago, the sign of having "arrived" was the purchase of a Caddy or a
> Lincoln Continental. I guess buying an Acura is the Honda owners statement
> of today -- at least for those who need to make the statement.



One of my interests is various kinds of old cars. When you look at them
now the differences between a late 1940s Plymouth, then a bargain
brand, and it's contemporary Chrysler, the luxury brand, there are
really very few differences. Some trim nuances, perhaps a bigger
engine, maybe a few more options, but not really all that different once
you take them apart for a restoration.

The same is true if you compare a fully optioned 1972 Chevrolet Caprice
and compare it to a Sedan deVille which was 50% higher priced. In
reality they are more similar than different. An even closer match is a
well equipped Chevy compared to the supposedly much more upmarket Buick
of it's day.

John
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