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Need help with 97 Integra ls.. When I press the clutch to the floor I
hear a slight grinding noise similar to the noise the ABS makes. Also
it is difficult to get the car into 3rd and 4th gear, then grinds in
5th. If I only push the clutch half way the shifts are pretty smooth.
The car has 170,000 miles with the original tranny parts i'm sure. Any
suggestions?

bmcca02@hotmail.com wrote in news:1165698344.773059.102380
@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com:

> Need help with 97 Integra ls.. When I press the clutch to the floor I
> hear a slight grinding noise similar to the noise the ABS makes. Also
> it is difficult to get the car into 3rd and 4th gear, then grinds in
> 5th. If I only push the clutch half way the shifts are pretty smooth.
> The car has 170,000 miles with the original tranny parts i'm sure. Any
> suggestions?
>
>


When did this start? Has it been that way since you bought the car, or did
it start later?

Does it happen when the engine is both cold and when hot, or just when one
or the other?

When the car is idling but mot moving, can you push the clutch and not hear
the noise? Can you change gears easily if the car's mot moving?

It's unlikely you still have the original clutch at 170K.

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Have had the car for 5 years. It just started and it occurs when it is
hot and cold. Shifting is easy when not moving. When engine is really
cold it chips the tires when you let the clutch out and jumps till its
warm. When the car is not moving you can push the clutch to the floor
and it still makes the noise but only when you come to a stop.
Tegger wrote:
> bmcca02@hotmail.com wrote in news:1165698344.773059.102380
> @l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Need help with 97 Integra ls.. When I press the clutch to the floor I
> > hear a slight grinding noise similar to the noise the ABS makes. Also
> > it is difficult to get the car into 3rd and 4th gear, then grinds in
> > 5th. If I only push the clutch half way the shifts are pretty smooth.
> > The car has 170,000 miles with the original tranny parts i'm sure. Any
> > suggestions?
> >
> >
>
>
> When did this start? Has it been that way since you bought the car, or did
> it start later?
>
> Does it happen when the engine is both cold and when hot, or just when one
> or the other?
>
> When the car is idling but mot moving, can you push the clutch and not hear
> the noise? Can you change gears easily if the car's mot moving?
>
> It's unlikely you still have the original clutch at 170K.
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

bmcca02@hotmail.com wrote in
news:1165770107.819181.287250@n67g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:

> Have had the car for 5 years. It just started and it occurs when it
> is hot and cold. Shifting is easy when not moving. When engine is
> really cold it chips the tires when you let the clutch out and jumps
> till its warm. When the car is not moving you can push the clutch to
> the floor and it still makes the noise but only when you come to a
> stop. Tegger wrote:
>> bmcca02@hotmail.com wrote in news:1165698344.773059.102380
>> @l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Need help with 97 Integra ls.. When I press the clutch to the floor
>> > I hear a slight grinding noise similar to the noise the ABS makes.
>> > Also it is difficult to get the car into 3rd and 4th gear, then
>> > grinds in 5th. If I only push the clutch half way the shifts are
>> > pretty smooth. The car has 170,000 miles with the original tranny
>> > parts i'm sure. Any suggestions?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> When did this start? Has it been that way since you bought the car,
>> or did it start later?
>>
>> Does it happen when the engine is both cold and when hot, or just
>> when one or the other?
>>
>> When the car is idling but mot moving, can you push the clutch and
>> not hear the noise? Can you change gears easily if the car's mot
>> moving?
>>
>> It's unlikely you still have the original clutch at 170K.
>>
>> --
>> Tegger
>>
>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
>> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
>
>

Worn throwout bearing?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
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bmcca02@hotmail.com wrote in
news:1165770107.819181.287250@n67g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:

Tegger wrote:
>> bmcca02@hotmail.com wrote in news:1165698344.773059.102380
>> @l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Need help with 97 Integra ls.. When I press the clutch to the floor
>> > I hear a slight grinding noise similar to the noise the ABS makes.
>> > Also it is difficult to get the car into 3rd and 4th gear, then
>> > grinds in 5th. If I only push the clutch half way the shifts are
>> > pretty smooth. The car has 170,000 miles with the original tranny
>> > parts i'm sure. Any suggestions?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> When did this start? Has it been that way since you bought the car,
>> or did it start later?
>>
>> Does it happen when the engine is both cold and when hot, or just
>> when one or the other?
>>
>> When the car is idling but mot moving, can you push the clutch and
>> not hear the noise? Can you change gears easily if the car's mot
>> moving?
>>
>> It's unlikely you still have the original clutch at 170K.
>>
>>
>
> Have had the car for 5 years. It just started and it occurs when it
> is hot and cold. Shifting is easy when not moving. When engine is
> really cold it chips the tires when you let the clutch out and jumps
> till its warm. When the car is not moving you can push the clutch to
> the floor and it still makes the noise but only when you come to a
> stop.
>



When was the last time the transmission fluid level was checked? Sounds
like yours is way low. Try getting it drained and refilled (with Honda MTF)
and see if the problem persists.


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Tegger

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bmcca02@hotmail.com wrote in
news:1165770107.819181.287250@n67g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:


Tegger wrote:

>> bmcca02@hotmail.com wrote in news:1165698344.773059.102380
>> @l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Need help with 97 Integra ls.. When I press the clutch to the floor
>> > I hear a slight grinding noise similar to the noise the ABS makes.
>> > Also it is difficult to get the car into 3rd and 4th gear, then
>> > grinds in 5th. If I only push the clutch half way the shifts are
>> > pretty smooth. The car has 170,000 miles with the original tranny
>> > parts i'm sure. Any suggestions?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> When did this start? Has it been that way since you bought the car,
>> or did it start later?
>>
>> Does it happen when the engine is both cold and when hot, or just
>> when one or the other?
>>
>> When the car is idling but mot moving, can you push the clutch and
>> not hear the noise? Can you change gears easily if the car's mot
>> moving?
>>
>
> Have had the car for 5 years. It just started and it occurs when it
> is hot and cold. Shifting is easy when not moving. When engine is
> really cold it chips the tires when you let the clutch out and jumps
> till its warm. When the car is not moving you can push the clutch to
> the floor and it still makes the noise but only when you come to a
> stop.



The more I think about this one, the more I'm suspecting it's the release
bearing (as mentioned by Jim Yanik).

Are you quite certain the "chirp" you hear is actually the tires? I'm
wondering if your'e not hearing the release bearing squeal instead.

Perhaps you could give a few more details on the "jumping" thing.

--
Tegger

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Its chirping the tires for sure, and the front end skips or hops when
the car is really cold. Plus I live in the NE were it gets quite cold,
last week when it all started it was 10 degrees real temp! I had the
fluid level checked in the transaxle like you recomended and it was
clean and full. The more I drive it the more I have figured out how to
have it drive normal. If I push the clutch only half way its fine, its
when I push it to the floor and try to make a quick gear changes it
grinds or won't allow me to shift.
Tegger wrote:
> bmcca02@hotmail.com wrote in
> news:1165770107.819181.287250@n67g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
>
>
> Tegger wrote:
>
> >> bmcca02@hotmail.com wrote in news:1165698344.773059.102380
> >> @l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com:
> >>
> >> > Need help with 97 Integra ls.. When I press the clutch to the floor
> >> > I hear a slight grinding noise similar to the noise the ABS makes.
> >> > Also it is difficult to get the car into 3rd and 4th gear, then
> >> > grinds in 5th. If I only push the clutch half way the shifts are
> >> > pretty smooth. The car has 170,000 miles with the original tranny
> >> > parts i'm sure. Any suggestions?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> When did this start? Has it been that way since you bought the car,
> >> or did it start later?
> >>
> >> Does it happen when the engine is both cold and when hot, or just
> >> when one or the other?
> >>
> >> When the car is idling but mot moving, can you push the clutch and
> >> not hear the noise? Can you change gears easily if the car's mot
> >> moving?
> >>
> >
> > Have had the car for 5 years. It just started and it occurs when it
> > is hot and cold. Shifting is easy when not moving. When engine is
> > really cold it chips the tires when you let the clutch out and jumps
> > till its warm. When the car is not moving you can push the clutch to
> > the floor and it still makes the noise but only when you come to a
> > stop.
>
>
>
> The more I think about this one, the more I'm suspecting it's the release
> bearing (as mentioned by Jim Yanik).
>
> Are you quite certain the "chirp" you hear is actually the tires? I'm
> wondering if your'e not hearing the release bearing squeal instead.
>
> Perhaps you could give a few more details on the "jumping" thing.
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

bmcca02@hotmail.com wrote in
news:1165883078.040544.146210@79g2000cws.googlegro ups.com:

> Its chirping the tires for sure, and the front end skips or hops when
> the car is really cold. Plus I live in the NE were it gets quite cold,
> last week when it all started it was 10 degrees real temp! I had the
> fluid level checked in the transaxle like you recomended and it was
> clean and full. The more I drive it the more I have figured out how to
> have it drive normal. If I push the clutch only half way its fine, its
> when I push it to the floor and try to make a quick gear changes it
> grinds or won't allow me to shift.
> Tegger wrote:
>> bmcca02@hotmail.com wrote in
>> news:1165770107.819181.287250@n67g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
>>
>>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>
>> >> bmcca02@hotmail.com wrote in news:1165698344.773059.102380
>> >> @l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com:
>> >>
>> >> > Need help with 97 Integra ls.. When I press the clutch to the
>> >> > floor I hear a slight grinding noise similar to the noise the
>> >> > ABS makes. Also it is difficult to get the car into 3rd and 4th
>> >> > gear, then grinds in 5th. If I only push the clutch half way the
>> >> > shifts are pretty smooth. The car has 170,000 miles with the
>> >> > original tranny parts i'm sure. Any suggestions?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> When did this start? Has it been that way since you bought the
>> >> car, or did it start later?
>> >>
>> >> Does it happen when the engine is both cold and when hot, or just
>> >> when one or the other?
>> >>
>> >> When the car is idling but mot moving, can you push the clutch and
>> >> not hear the noise? Can you change gears easily if the car's mot
>> >> moving?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Have had the car for 5 years. It just started and it occurs when
>> > it is hot and cold. Shifting is easy when not moving. When engine
>> > is really cold it chips the tires when you let the clutch out and
>> > jumps till its warm. When the car is not moving you can push the
>> > clutch to the floor and it still makes the noise but only when you
>> > come to a stop.
>>
>>
>>
>> The more I think about this one, the more I'm suspecting it's the
>> release bearing (as mentioned by Jim Yanik).
>>
>> Are you quite certain the "chirp" you hear is actually the tires? I'm
>> wondering if your'e not hearing the release bearing squeal instead.
>>
>> Perhaps you could give a few more details on the "jumping" thing.
>>
>> --
>> Tegger
>>
>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
>> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
>
>

I wonder if he has clutch master/slave cylinder problems?
Maybe one of the cylinders has a worn area in the bore and when he pushes
down to that point,it lets fluid around it and the clutch only goes part
released.(maybe a piston seal is getting stiff with cold?)

Or maybe water in the fluid and it's affected in cold weather? (long shot)


--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

bmcca02@hotmail.com wrote in
news:1165883078.040544.146210@79g2000cws.googlegro ups.com:

> Its chirping the tires for sure, and the front end skips or hops when
> the car is really cold. Plus I live in the NE were it gets quite cold,
> last week when it all started it was 10 degrees real temp! I had the
> fluid level checked in the transaxle like you recomended and it was
> clean and full. The more I drive it the more I have figured out how to
> have it drive normal. If I push the clutch only half way its fine, its
> when I push it to the floor and try to make a quick gear changes it
> grinds or won't allow me to shift.



Then your clutch is almost certainly just plain worn out.


--
Tegger

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www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns9896D0121A30Bjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:

>> Tegger wrote:
>>>
>>> The more I think about this one, the more I'm suspecting it's the
>>> release bearing (as mentioned by Jim Yanik).
>>>
>>> Are you quite certain the "chirp" you hear is actually the tires?
>>> I'm wondering if your'e not hearing the release bearing squeal
>>> instead.
>>>
>>> Perhaps you could give a few more details on the "jumping" thing.
>>>
>
> I wonder if he has clutch master/slave cylinder problems?
> Maybe one of the cylinders has a worn area in the bore and when he
> pushes down to that point,it lets fluid around it and the clutch only
> goes part released.(maybe a piston seal is getting stiff with cold?)



It's a good guess. I think the OP has a problem that is best dealt with
personally by a local tech. It's probably something nobody would have
thought of based on the descriptions given so far.



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Tegger

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