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Be sure to check your spare tire. Our tacoma has a sensor on he spare tire
also. Scott

Tires should be inflated sso that they spend zero minutes at low
pressure. In other words, if the spec pressure is 32 PSI, then the
tires should be at 32 PSI when your car is sitting in the driveway. As
tires roll, they heat up and the internal air pressure goes up, but the
important thing is that the tire not be run underinflated for that
first 10 or 20 minutes of your drive.

Unless there's an unusual circumstance, the pressure increase from
driving won't cause any problems. It's usually pretty small unless
you're racing (usually less than 10 PSI).


zonie wrote:
> Be sure to check your spare tire. Our tacoma has a sensor on he spare tire
> also. Scott

I have a 06 TL and also been having same problem; just took car in for
service today.

Seems like the TPM were not designed for colder climates.

My dealer told me that the simple fix for this is to put in NITROUS
AIR into the tires; cost $50 + taxes. Not sure if this really solves
the problem, but so far so good.

Anyone have any input on this? Did this really fix my problem, or did
they simply turn the sensors off

"LauraA" wrote
> Have been driving a 2006 TL since September and for the most
> part
> really like the car, but find it odd that ever since the
> weather
> changed for the colder the "Check Tire Pressure" indicator on
> my dash
> has been lit up. Checked with the dealer the first time it
> came on and
> he assured me that it was a "quirk" of the car for this
> model/year,
> just to "ignore it." For the most part I do, and now that it
> is
> wintery outside (Ohio) the light stays on constantly (in
> earlier fall
> it would go out after about 20 minutes of driving), but I find
> it
> strange that my google search of this forum turned up no
> previous
> inquiry about this "quirk." So, is it in fact true that this
> is just
> something I should ignore, or is the quirk specific to MY car?
> TIA for
> any guidance, LA

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tl2006black <none@000.com> wrote in news:971252_
156f6998432b468696f9b3ca40d6f429@autoboardz.com:

> I have a 06 TL and also been having same problem; just took car in for
> service today.
>
> Seems like the TPM were not designed for colder climates.
>
> My dealer told me that the simple fix for this is to put in NITROUS
> AIR into the tires; cost $50 + taxes. Not sure if this really solves
> the problem, but so far so good.




You are referring to NITROGEN, not "nitrous air". No such thing as "nitrous
air". Nitrogen makes up 78% of the air you breathe every day.


>
> Anyone have any input on this? Did this really fix my problem, or did
> they simply turn the sensors off?


It probably made things better.


You can thank these contributors for your problem:
1) The federal government's NHTSA
2) Ralph Nader's "safety lobby" organization, whatever it's called...
3) Liability exposure (the lawyer lobby).

All of these ensure that your car will complain quite loudly when the
tire's air pressure is not 100% right.


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Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns98C8E75862C4Btegger@207.14.116.130:

> tl2006black <none@000.com> wrote in news:971252_
> 156f6998432b468696f9b3ca40d6f429@autoboardz.com:
>
>> I have a 06 TL and also been having same problem; just took car in
>> for service today.
>>
>> Seems like the TPM were not designed for colder climates.
>>
>> My dealer told me that the simple fix for this is to put in NITROUS
>> AIR into the tires; cost $50 + taxes. Not sure if this really solves
>> the problem, but so far so good.
>
>
>
>
> You are referring to NITROGEN, not "nitrous air". No such thing as
> "nitrous air". Nitrogen makes up 78% of the air you breathe every day.
>

Nitrogen-filled tires lose pressure far slower than air-filled tires.

Google and you will find out a lot about nitrogen and tires.


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Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in news:Xns98C966EE0A7ECjyanikkuanet@
64.209.0.86:

> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns98C8E75862C4Btegger@207.14.116.130:
>
>> tl2006black <none@000.com> wrote in news:971252_
>> 156f6998432b468696f9b3ca40d6f429@autoboardz.com:
>>
>>> I have a 06 TL and also been having same problem; just took car in
>>> for service today.
>>>
>>> Seems like the TPM were not designed for colder climates.
>>>
>>> My dealer told me that the simple fix for this is to put in NITROUS
>>> AIR into the tires; cost $50 + taxes. Not sure if this really solves
>>> the problem, but so far so good.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You are referring to NITROGEN, not "nitrous air". No such thing as
>> "nitrous air". Nitrogen makes up 78% of the air you breathe every day.
>>
>
> Nitrogen-filled tires lose pressure far slower than air-filled tires.



More exactly, nitrogen-filled tires are less susceptible to temperature-
derived pressure changes. They enjoy more stable pressures, in other words.

If you have a rim leak, valve leak or puncture, nitrogen will escape from
your tires just as fast as regular air.


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Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns98C9749449C14tegger@207.14.116.130:

> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns98C966EE0A7ECjyanikkuanet@ 64.209.0.86:
>
>> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>> news:Xns98C8E75862C4Btegger@207.14.116.130:
>>
>>> tl2006black <none@000.com> wrote in news:971252_
>>> 156f6998432b468696f9b3ca40d6f429@autoboardz.com:
>>>
>>>> I have a 06 TL and also been having same problem; just took car in
>>>> for service today.
>>>>
>>>> Seems like the TPM were not designed for colder climates.
>>>>
>>>> My dealer told me that the simple fix for this is to put in NITROUS
>>>> AIR into the tires; cost $50 + taxes. Not sure if this really
>>>> solves the problem, but so far so good.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You are referring to NITROGEN, not "nitrous air". No such thing as
>>> "nitrous air". Nitrogen makes up 78% of the air you breathe every
>>> day.
>>>
>>
>> Nitrogen-filled tires lose pressure far slower than air-filled tires.
>
>
>
> More exactly, nitrogen-filled tires are less susceptible to
> temperature- derived pressure changes. They enjoy more stable
> pressures, in other words.
>
> If you have a rim leak, valve leak or puncture, nitrogen will escape
> from your tires just as fast as regular air.
>
>

the O2 in ordinary air combines with rubber compounds and thus the pressure
reduces. It also degrades the tire gradually.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

> "LauraA" wrote:
> > Have been driving a 2006 TL since September and for the most
> > part
> > really like the car, but find it odd that ever since the
> > weather
> > changed for the colder the "Check Tire Pressure" indicator on
> > my dash
> > has been lit up. Checked with the dealer the first time it
> > came on and
> > he assured me that it was a "quirk" of the car for this
> > model/year,
> > just to "ignore it." For the most part I do, and now that it
> > is
> > wintery outside (Ohio) the light stays on constantly (in
> > earlier fall
> > it would go out after about 20 minutes of driving), but I find
> > it
> > strange that my google search of this forum turned up no
> > previous
> > inquiry about this "quirk." So, is it in fact true that this
> > is just
> > something I should ignore, or is the quirk specific to MY car?
> > TIA for
> > any guidance, LA

I missed the original post. Cold weather causes tire pressures to drop.
Driving causes pressures to increase. I fill the tires on my 2006 RL in
a warm garage to 32# front and 30# rear. A few days ago the ambient
temperature was 6 degrees and my tires were 28# and 26#. After driving
for a while they worked their way back up to 30# and 28#.

Sounds to me like your initial pressures might be too low and cold
weather makes them drop out of the safe band, whatever that is. I would
not ignore the warning. Check your tire pressures. They are probably
too low.

I know a lot of garages under-inflate and a lot of manufacturers
recommend pressures that are too low because they make for a softer
ride. You should never inflate to less than factory recommendation and
I prefer a couple of pounds more. I also like to check tire wear.
Under-inflation causes the outside edges to wear faster. Over-inflation
wears the center faster.

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