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Old 12 Apr 2006, 02:31 am
rlking
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Default 2000 TL

My son's 2000 TL has an "engine light" came on about a month ago and I asked
him about it. His response is he didn't know but his car is running fine.
Unfortunately, it isn't my car but he is my son, and I would like to know if
anybody can tell me how to deal with the light? The dealer wants $100 bucks
to read the codes! Is there a way to read the codes and deal with the
results without the dealer?

Robert King


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Old 12 Apr 2006, 12:47 pm
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rlking wrote:
>My son's 2000 TL has an "engine light" came on about a month ago and I asked
>him about it. His response is he didn't know but his car is running fine.
>Unfortunately, it isn't my car but he is my son, and I would like to know if
>anybody can tell me how to deal with the light? The dealer wants $100 bucks
>to read the codes! Is there a way to read the codes and deal with the
>results without the dealer?
>
>Robert King

Hello Robert
I have a 98 TL and 3 years ago on a very damp day the car started rough and
the check eng. light came on. I took it to the dealer and for $80.00 they
read the code and told me it was a missfire probably due to faulty spark
plugs. I had the plugs changed and about a month later on a very damp day the
same thing happened and the ch. eng. light comes back on. I took it to the
dealer they read the code again and told me it could be the lead wires. I had
them replaced and then on the next very damp day it happened again. I took it
to another dealer who read the code and told me it was the O2 sensor. I
decided not to replace that as I couldn't figure out why the o2 sensor would
only act up on a damp day. I just ignored it and the check engine light has
now been on for 3 years. I sent Honda a letter about it and they assured me
the indicator light wasn't a scam but they would need to look closer at the
car. Since it was then off warranty I decided to pass . I'm not suggesting
that your son ignore the light but thought I would share that experience with
you anyway. The owners manual suggest that it is probably an emissions
problem and might be resolved by simply tightening the gas cap and the light
might go out after a few days. I've also noticed in a flyer from a company
called Princess Auto that they are selling a small unit for about $100.00
that you can hook into your electronics that will give you the code for the
problem. You then have to find out what the code indicates but you might be
able to get that from someone on the net.
Good Luck with it Shack
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Old 12 Apr 2006, 03:52 pm
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It can be read at any service centre that has an OBDII (on board diagnostics
version 2) reader. Call around (Pep Boys, VIP, etc . . .). Once you know
the code, there are lots of websites that can help you with the diag or you
can post the code here and someone can tell you.

If you are lucky and it was just a misfire, you can try disconnecting the
positive terminal on the battery for a few minutes to reset the computer and
"clear" the code - make sure you have your radio reset code on hand when you
reconnect the battery. I suspect though that it is registering a code for a
reason. Could be an O2 sensor, which is worth replacing since they
influence fuel mixture/consumption. Or it could be another sensor.

Let us know how you make out.

MZ
98 TL 62k

"rlking" <rlking@sprintmail.com> wrote in message
news:b91%f.3288$Es3.2624@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> My son's 2000 TL has an "engine light" came on about a month ago and I
> asked him about it. His response is he didn't know but his car is running
> fine. Unfortunately, it isn't my car but he is my son, and I would like to
> know if anybody can tell me how to deal with the light? The dealer wants
> $100 bucks to read the codes! Is there a way to read the codes and deal
> with the results without the dealer?
>
> Robert King
>



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Old 12 Apr 2006, 04:41 pm
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On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:52:56 GMT, MZ said:

>you can try disconnecting the
>positive terminal on the battery for a few minutes to reset the computer and
>"clear" the code


Isn't there a way to turn the Check Engine light off by holding the
Reset button and turning the ignition key a few times?

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that I don't know the answer."
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Old 12 Apr 2006, 04:44 pm
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I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the
answer."
- MZ ;-)

"Venture Rider" <dontbother@bogus.dom> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:52:56 GMT, MZ said:
>
>>you can try disconnecting the
>>positive terminal on the battery for a few minutes to reset the computer
>>and
>>"clear" the code

>
> Isn't there a way to turn the Check Engine light off by holding the
> Reset button and turning the ignition key a few times?
>
> --
> "I refuse to answer that question on the grounds
> that I don't know the answer."
> - Douglas Adams



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Old 12 Apr 2006, 06:12 pm
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On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:41:57 -0400, Venture Rider
<dontbother@bogus.dom> wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:52:56 GMT, MZ said:
>
>>you can try disconnecting the
>>positive terminal on the battery for a few minutes to reset the computer and
>>"clear" the code

>
>Isn't there a way to turn the Check Engine light off by holding the
>Reset button and turning the ignition key a few times?


You're referring to the Maintenance Required light which is only a
reminder. It is triggered by mileage and can be reset.

The Check Engine light is triggered by a problem or event. Ignore it
at your own risk.
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Old 12 Apr 2006, 11:50 pm
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"Oldtimer" <Oldtimer@home.net> wrote in message
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> The Check Engine light is triggered by a problem or event. Ignore it
> at your own risk.


The risk is small. From the standpoint of potential harm to the vehicle, the
only risk (assuming there are no other symptoms) is of overheating the
catalyst through an overly rich mixture. The car can be driven in town
indefinitely without risk, and once it is established the fuel economy is
more or less normal it can be driven normally. It is really very rare for
the mixture to be that rich without other symptoms.

A very common cause of the light coming on is a loose gas cap. If that is
the cause, tightening the cap will extinguish the light in about a week of
normal driving.

A friend says, when the "check engine" light comes on he opens the hood and
says, "yep - still there!" and closes the hood again.

Mike


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