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Old 01 Apr 2006, 07:53 am
Venture Rider
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Default 04 TL

I test drove an '04 TL with 55,000km yesterday, and I'll be keeping my
'01, thank you very much. The '04 I tried had a harsh ride and rattles
galore. My '01 is so much better in those respects. And to make
matters worse, the thing had the original POS Turanza's still on it.
All for a measly $35k CAD.

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Old 01 Apr 2006, 08:53 am
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Venture Rider wrote:
> I test drove an '04 TL with 55,000km yesterday, and I'll be keeping my
> '01, thank you very much. The '04 I tried had a harsh ride and rattles
> galore. My '01 is so much better in those respects. And to make
> matters worse, the thing had the original POS Turanza's still on it.
> All for a measly $35k CAD.
>

I've been driving a 92 Vigor for 14 years and it's starting to
'fracture'. Looking for a replacement I went to the local Acura
dealership....
The new TL is narrower than the Vigor, maybe not by much, but enough to
say "No, thanks". I'm not a heavyweight, but need a bit more wiggle
room for long trips. The RL is a much larger car, but with a much
larger price tag. However, it's only around three fourths, the size of
the competition's flagships and so loses a lot of impression points
there. It really looks like a "Honda Accord in Drag".
Since Acura decided to reduce their vehicle size, I'm sure they're
going to, commensurately, drop a lot of business.




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Old 01 Apr 2006, 09:32 am
Lee Florack
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StoneyStude wrote:
> Venture Rider wrote:
>> I test drove an '04 TL with 55,000km yesterday, and I'll be keeping my
>> '01, thank you very much. The '04 I tried had a harsh ride and rattles
>> galore. My '01 is so much better in those respects. And to make
>> matters worse, the thing had the original POS Turanza's still on it.
>> All for a measly $35k CAD.
>>

> I've been driving a 92 Vigor for 14 years and it's starting to
> 'fracture'. Looking for a replacement I went to the local Acura
> dealership....
> The new TL is narrower than the Vigor, maybe not by much, but enough to
> say "No, thanks". I'm not a heavyweight, but need a bit more wiggle
> room for long trips. The RL is a much larger car, but with a much
> larger price tag. However, it's only around three fourths, the size of
> the competition's flagships and so loses a lot of impression points
> there. It really looks like a "Honda Accord in Drag".
> Since Acura decided to reduce their vehicle size, I'm sure they're
> going to, commensurately, drop a lot of business.


So the lack of big size prevents a car from 'flagship' status and is
a real deal-breaker to you?
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Old 01 Apr 2006, 11:27 am
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Lee Florack wrote:
> StoneyStude wrote:
>
>> Venture Rider wrote:
>>
>>> I test drove an '04 TL with 55,000km yesterday, and I'll be keeping my
>>> '01, thank you very much. The '04 I tried had a harsh ride and rattles
>>> galore. My '01 is so much better in those respects. And to make
>>> matters worse, the thing had the original POS Turanza's still on it.
>>> All for a measly $35k CAD.
>>>

>> I've been driving a 92 Vigor for 14 years and it's starting to
>> 'fracture'. Looking for a replacement I went to the local Acura
>> dealership....
>> The new TL is narrower than the Vigor, maybe not by much, but enough
>> to say "No, thanks". I'm not a heavyweight, but need a bit more
>> wiggle room for long trips. The RL is a much larger car, but with a
>> much larger price tag. However, it's only around three fourths, the
>> size of the competition's flagships and so loses a lot of impression
>> points there. It really looks like a "Honda Accord in Drag".
>> Since Acura decided to reduce their vehicle size, I'm sure they're
>> going to, commensurately, drop a lot of business.

>
>
> So the lack of big size prevents a car from 'flagship' status and is a
> real deal-breaker to you?

Of course, just my opinion though. Smaller outside, smaller inside,
less trunk space, no V8, costlier than the larger competition. And,
it does just look like a dressed up Accord, which occurs in the minds of
many people. Further, it may be very technically advanced, but the
thought of trusting your throttle application to a computer chip, gives
me a shudder or two.
When I bought the Vigor, it was a intermediary between the Legend and
the Integra, probably built on the same platform as the previous year's
Legend coupe. If I could buy another today, I'd do it at twice what I
paid originally. At least, it had some unique exclusivity, whereas
the TL, TSX and RSX are all, what appear to be, dressed over Civics.
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Old 01 Apr 2006, 08:55 pm
NomoreRGS
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You never noticed the similarity of your Vigor and the Accord? My '91
Accord looks like the Vigor's sibling. I also have a '05 TL which is
very different from the previous generation TL. It's much more sporty
especially with the A-Spec suspension.

The TL is based on the Accord Platform, the TSX on the European Accord
and the RSX on the Civic's.



On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 12:27:54 -0500, StoneyStude <rfjohnstone@Cox.net>
wrote:

>Lee Florack wrote:
>> StoneyStude wrote:
>>
>>> Venture Rider wrote:
>>>
>>>> I test drove an '04 TL with 55,000km yesterday, and I'll be keeping my
>>>> '01, thank you very much. The '04 I tried had a harsh ride and rattles
>>>> galore. My '01 is so much better in those respects. And to make
>>>> matters worse, the thing had the original POS Turanza's still on it.
>>>> All for a measly $35k CAD.
>>>>
>>> I've been driving a 92 Vigor for 14 years and it's starting to
>>> 'fracture'. Looking for a replacement I went to the local Acura
>>> dealership....
>>> The new TL is narrower than the Vigor, maybe not by much, but enough
>>> to say "No, thanks". I'm not a heavyweight, but need a bit more
>>> wiggle room for long trips. The RL is a much larger car, but with a
>>> much larger price tag. However, it's only around three fourths, the
>>> size of the competition's flagships and so loses a lot of impression
>>> points there. It really looks like a "Honda Accord in Drag".
>>> Since Acura decided to reduce their vehicle size, I'm sure they're
>>> going to, commensurately, drop a lot of business.

>>
>>
>> So the lack of big size prevents a car from 'flagship' status and is a
>> real deal-breaker to you?

> Of course, just my opinion though. Smaller outside, smaller inside,
> less trunk space, no V8, costlier than the larger competition. And,
>it does just look like a dressed up Accord, which occurs in the minds of
>many people. Further, it may be very technically advanced, but the
>thought of trusting your throttle application to a computer chip, gives
>me a shudder or two.
> When I bought the Vigor, it was a intermediary between the Legend and
>the Integra, probably built on the same platform as the previous year's
>Legend coupe. If I could buy another today, I'd do it at twice what I
>paid originally. At least, it had some unique exclusivity, whereas
>the TL, TSX and RSX are all, what appear to be, dressed over Civics.


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