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Old 29 Mar 2006, 04:40 pm
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Default New Acuras with black boxes?

I asked in another newsgroup that all modern cars with airbags will
have those data recorder/black box thingies.
Is that true?

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Old 29 Mar 2006, 05:25 pm
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Default Re: New Acuras with black boxes?

I'm pretty sure the ECU records a lot of stuff on it..

"Justin" <Acurajustin1978@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I asked in another newsgroup that all modern cars with airbags will
> have those data recorder/black box thingies.
> Is that true?
>



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Old 29 Mar 2006, 07:50 pm
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"Justin" <Acurajustin1978@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I asked in another newsgroup that all modern cars with airbags will
> have those data recorder/black box thingies.
> Is that true?
>

I'm pretty sure all SRS controllers made in the last few years have data
logging. The driving force behind it is the potential for litigation if the
airbags fire when they aren't supposed to - the devices capture the inputs
the controller uses for its decisions on a continuing basis, overwriting the
oldest data. I don't know the typical recording time window, but I suspect a
large part of a minute before the airbags deploy is captured. More would be
unnecessarily expensive, and much less would not document the correctness of
the decision very well.

The recorded data certainly includes speed, and probably at least forward
acceleration/deceleration. In the case of side curtains, there is probably
also lateral acceleration recording.

Mike


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Old 30 Mar 2006, 01:39 am
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"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
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> "Justin" <Acurajustin1978@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1143672054.481073.30580@i39g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>I asked in another newsgroup that all modern cars with airbags will
>> have those data recorder/black box thingies.
>> Is that true?
>>

> I'm pretty sure all SRS controllers made in the last few years have
> data logging. The driving force behind it is the potential for
> litigation


<snip>



It does more than protect against litigation, it also helps cut down on
fraudulent warranty claims.

There was a case recently in alt.autos.toyota where a brand-new Toyota
Celica blew its engine. Ordinarily, Toyota would have covered the warranty
replacement, except that the black box revealed that the engine was turning
9,500 rpm at the time it went south. Oops! Claim denied!


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Old 02 Apr 2006, 10:57 am
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Default Re: New Acuras with black boxes?

It's amazing the info that OBDII captures. I bought a 'Scangauge' that
simply plugs into the OBDII port, and it gives readouts for RPM, speed, oil
pressure, gas mileage, engine temp, temp of air going into engine, timing,
amount of gas remaining in the tank, how far I can go on that, how long
we've been driving today, mileage covered, average speed and more. It also
will hold that data for yesterday...it resets itself after the car is shut
off overnight.
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
> news:UsudnTiCq4xopLbZnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@sedona.net:
>
>> "Justin" <Acurajustin1978@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1143672054.481073.30580@i39g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>>I asked in another newsgroup that all modern cars with airbags will
>>> have those data recorder/black box thingies.
>>> Is that true?
>>>

>> I'm pretty sure all SRS controllers made in the last few years have
>> data logging. The driving force behind it is the potential for
>> litigation

>
> <snip>
>
>
>
> It does more than protect against litigation, it also helps cut down on
> fraudulent warranty claims.
>
> There was a case recently in alt.autos.toyota where a brand-new Toyota
> Celica blew its engine. Ordinarily, Toyota would have covered the warranty
> replacement, except that the black box revealed that the engine was
> turning
> 9,500 rpm at the time it went south. Oops! Claim denied!
>
>
> --
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>
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> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/



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