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Old 05 Feb 2006, 07:50 am
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Default Which Acura is based on Accord?

Which Acura is based on the Accord? I don't follow Acura, but saw one that
looked great the other day...but was obviously a gussied up Accord. Which
was it?


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Old 05 Feb 2006, 08:20 am
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Default Re: Which Acura is based on Accord?


"D.D. Pallmer" <ddpalmer@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:G4ednUV_zueMaHjeRVn-rQ@comcast.com...

> Which Acura is based on the Accord? I don't follow Acura, but saw one that
> looked great the other day...but was obviously a gussied up Accord. Which
> was it?
>

The TL.......
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Old 05 Feb 2006, 09:15 am
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On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 08:20:51 -0500, "karinhall" <ah@nsdp.com> wrote:

>
>"D.D. Pallmer" <ddpalmer@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:G4ednUV_zueMaHjeRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
>> Which Acura is based on the Accord? I don't follow Acura, but saw one that
>> looked great the other day...but was obviously a gussied up Accord. Which
>> was it?
>>

>The TL.......


Unless he was just *visiting* the US, in which case it is the TSX.
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Old 05 Feb 2006, 02:58 pm
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Dean Dark <ddrake@comcast.notthis.net> wrote in
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> On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 08:20:51 -0500, "karinhall" <ah@nsdp.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"D.D. Pallmer" <ddpalmer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:G4ednUV_zueMaHjeRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
>>> Which Acura is based on the Accord? I don't follow Acura, but saw
>>> one that looked great the other day...but was obviously a gussied up
>>> Accord. Which was it?
>>>

>>The TL.......

>
> Unless he was just *visiting* the US, in which case it is the TSX.




The RL and the TL are both Accord-based. I believe the Pilot and MDX are
similarly Accord-based.

The RSX/TSX are Civic-based, as is the CR-V.

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Old 05 Feb 2006, 06:22 pm
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On 5 Feb 2006 19:58:36 GMT, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

>Dean Dark <ddrake@comcast.notthis.net> wrote in
>news:k22cu1dpid02v6vihh9equstalmsm71e98@4ax.com :
>
>> On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 08:20:51 -0500, "karinhall" <ah@nsdp.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"D.D. Pallmer" <ddpalmer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:G4ednUV_zueMaHjeRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
>>>> Which Acura is based on the Accord? I don't follow Acura, but saw
>>>> one that looked great the other day...but was obviously a gussied up
>>>> Accord. Which was it?
>>>>
>>>The TL.......

>>
>> Unless he was just *visiting* the US, in which case it is the TSX.

>
>The RL and the TL are both Accord-based. I believe the Pilot and MDX are
>similarly Accord-based.
>
>The RSX/TSX are Civic-based, as is the CR-V.


No. The US Honda Accord is not the Honda Accord that the rest of the
world knows. *That* Honda Accord is not sold in the US, it only
appears in the US with an Acura badge, as the TSX.

The RSX is a 'gussied up' Civic. The TSX is a 'gussied up'
Japanese/European Accord, not a Civic.

The US Accord is a Japanese Honda Ballade, I think. It used to be a
few years ago for sure but it may be some different platform now. But
for *sure* it's not the current Japanese/Euro Accord platform.

Years ago, when the *real* Accord was considered to be too small to
compete in the same size class with the Camry and other similar cars,
the Ballade became the Accord in the US.

I bought a new TSX in late 2003 and kept it for about a year. It was
a very nice car but just not my cup of tea for reasons that had
nothing to do with any faults with the car.
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Old 05 Feb 2006, 07:22 pm
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On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 18:22:48 -0500, Dean Dark
<ddrake@comcast.notthis.net> wrote:

>The US Accord is a Japanese Honda Ballade, I think. It used to be a
>few years ago for sure but it may be some different platform now.


Bad form to follow up on one's own post, I know, but whatever platform
I'm thinking of past or present for the US Accord, it's not the
Ballade. I'm sure someone else out there can help my addled pate on
this one...
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Old 05 Feb 2006, 08:03 pm
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Dean Dark <ddrake@comcast.notthis.net> wrote in
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> On 5 Feb 2006 19:58:36 GMT, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:


>>
>>The RL and the TL are both Accord-based. I believe the Pilot and MDX are
>>similarly Accord-based.
>>
>>The RSX/TSX are Civic-based, as is the CR-V.

>
> No. The US Honda Accord is not the Honda Accord that the rest of the
> world knows. *That* Honda Accord is not sold in the US, it only
> appears in the US with an Acura badge, as the TSX.




The TSX and RSX are built on the Civic platform.

Perhaps I should clarify my nomenclature: I don't know Honda's internal
designation for its platforms, so I'm referring to them by the names of the
vehicles that define them.

If your rest-of-the-world Accord is based on the Civic platform, I'd be
very surprised. I find no evidence of that in my searches.




>
> The RSX is a 'gussied up' Civic. The TSX is a 'gussied up'
> Japanese/European Accord, not a Civic.




It is the 4-door version of the RSX. Variants might be sold as an Accord in
some markets, but it's still the same Civic platform.


>
> The US Accord is a Japanese Honda Ballade, I think. It used to be a
> few years ago for sure but it may be some different platform now. But
> for *sure* it's not the current Japanese/Euro Accord platform.




Honda has only a few platforms that they build everything from. I'd say
just two platforms (Civic/Accord), but the Ridgeline and NSX might be
unique.



>
> Years ago, when the *real* Accord was considered to be too small to
> compete in the same size class with the Camry and other similar cars,
> the Ballade became the Accord in the US.




The Ballade is/was Civic based. It has never been based on the larger of
Honda's two car chassis.





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Old 05 Feb 2006, 08:58 pm
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On 6 Feb 2006 01:03:57 GMT, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

>Dean Dark <ddrake@comcast.notthis.net> wrote in
>news:ev0du11gq0seufnq7jp3h8b3gghmgajnf6@4ax.com :
>
>> On 5 Feb 2006 19:58:36 GMT, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:


>>>The RL and the TL are both Accord-based. I believe the Pilot and MDX are
>>>similarly Accord-based.
>>>
>>>The RSX/TSX are Civic-based, as is the CR-V.

>>
>> No. The US Honda Accord is not the Honda Accord that the rest of the
>> world knows. *That* Honda Accord is not sold in the US, it only
>> appears in the US with an Acura badge, as the TSX.

>
>The TSX and RSX are built on the Civic platform.
>
>Perhaps I should clarify my nomenclature: I don't know Honda's internal
>designation for its platforms, so I'm referring to them by the names of the
>vehicles that define them.
>
>If your rest-of-the-world Accord is based on the Civic platform, I'd be
>very surprised. I find no evidence of that in my searches.


It's not. If you look up the European Accord, you'll see that it's
smaller and quite different from the US Accord. It's what the US
Acura TSX is based on, they didn't even change the styling that much.
The RSX/Civic is a different platform/beast, just look at the TSX vs.
Civic/RSX front suspension for example - struts vs. four link.

>> The US Accord is a Japanese Honda Ballade, I think. It used to be a
>> few years ago for sure but it may be some different platform now. But
>> for *sure* it's not the current Japanese/Euro Accord platform.


>Honda has only a few platforms that they build everything from. I'd say
>just two platforms (Civic/Accord), but the Ridgeline and NSX might be
>unique.


A quick bit of googling brings me part of the answer. In recent
years, Honda has found ways to make the Accord platform remarkably
versatile and adaptable in size and configuration:

http://www.businessweek.com/1997/36/b3543001.htm

The Japanese/European Accord, and US TSX, is built on the smaller
non-US Accord platform variant, not the US Accord or Civic ones.

As I said when I corrected my original post, the Ballade was a red
herring due to me being a forgetful old fart. At least I haven't
forgotten that I have an NSX in the garage. I can assure you that it
shares little, if anything, with other Honda platforms, including
whatever it is that the S2000 is built on.
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Old 06 Feb 2006, 04:10 am
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"Dean Dark" <ddrake@comcast.notthis.net> wrote in message
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> On 6 Feb 2006 01:03:57 GMT, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
>>Dean Dark <ddrake@comcast.notthis.net> wrote in
>>news:ev0du11gq0seufnq7jp3h8b3gghmgajnf6@4ax.co m:
>>
>>> On 5 Feb 2006 19:58:36 GMT, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

>
>>>>The RL and the TL are both Accord-based. I believe the Pilot and MDX are
>>>>similarly Accord-based.
>>>>
>>>>The RSX/TSX are Civic-based, as is the CR-V.
>>>
>>> No. The US Honda Accord is not the Honda Accord that the rest of the
>>> world knows. *That* Honda Accord is not sold in the US, it only
>>> appears in the US with an Acura badge, as the TSX.

>>

Dean is correct, start thinking outside Honda US.
Here in Australia, the Honda Accord Euro, which is built in Japan, has the
same shape as the Acura TSX.
The Honda Accord here (which is made in Thailand) has the "rounded" features
of the US Honda Accord with either the VTi 2.4 litre 118 kW engine or the 3
litre V6 177kW.
This concept is similar to Honda UK, where there's the Honda Accord Saloon
(TSX).


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Old 06 Feb 2006, 07:21 am
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Dean Dark <ddrake@comcast.notthis.net> wrote in
news:9m9du15bkn9s6712omqc48j4g473g327hj@4ax.com:


>
>>Honda has only a few platforms that they build everything from. I'd
>>say just two platforms (Civic/Accord), but the Ridgeline and NSX might
>>be unique.

>
> A quick bit of googling brings me part of the answer. In recent
> years, Honda has found ways to make the Accord platform remarkably
> versatile and adaptable in size and configuration:
>
> http://www.businessweek.com/1997/36/b3543001.htm




Your link is irrelevant and says absolutely nothing to refute my assertion
that the RSX and TSX are Civic-based. Not only that, it was written before
the TSX ever even came to market.

However, I discover now that you are in fact correct. The links below
better describe the relationship between the TSX, the RSX and the Civic and
Accord platforms:
http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/showth...p?threadid=214
http://www.latc.com/2004/07/07/speci...ct4.print.html

You learn something new every day. The RSX and the TSX *are* different
cars, sharing only similar nomenclature. The RSX is Civic-based, and the
TSX is Accord-based.



>
> The Japanese/European Accord, and US TSX, is built on the smaller
> non-US Accord platform variant, not the US Accord or Civic ones.




All Accords worldwide are based on the same platform. Even your own
Business Week article says that.

To finally answer the OP's original question, Acuras built on variants of
the Accord platform:
TSX
TL
RL
MDX



>
> As I said when I corrected my original post, the Ballade was a red
> herring due to me being a forgetful old fart. At least I haven't
> forgotten that I have an NSX in the garage. I can assure you that it
> shares little, if anything, with other Honda platforms, including
> whatever it is that the S2000 is built on.




That tells you little. It could still be based on the Accord platform.

Do you think it possible that with Honda's careful attention to economy in
platforms that they would then throw it all away on unique frames for cars
with tiny sales volume? I wonder...



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