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My original Michelin MXV4 Plus have worn out, oly after 53000 miles.

Can someone recommend replacements? I am not a very aggressive driver,
and don't even need the V rated speeds.

I heard some remarks from the tire sales people, that I want to
validate.

1. One of them said that I should buy the V rated tires instead of H
rated ones, (which I prefer) as my suspension is "designed for V rated
tires". Any truth in that? I don't need to have tires rated for 149
MPH, as I won't go anywhere near that.

2. One of them said that my braking distance would be a little more in
H rated tires versus the V rated ones. true or not? Sholdn't braking
distance be a function of brakes, the wheel and the speed? If the tire
is exactly the same size?

Thanks for the help.

regards

On 16 Jan 2006 13:28:35 -0800, emptor_caveat@hotmail.com wrote:

>My original Michelin MXV4 Plus have worn out, oly after 53000 miles.
>
>Can someone recommend replacements? I am not a very aggressive driver,
>and don't even need the V rated speeds.
>
>I heard some remarks from the tire sales people, that I want to
>validate.
>
>1. One of them said that I should buy the V rated tires instead of H
>rated ones, (which I prefer) as my suspension is "designed for V rated
>tires". Any truth in that? I don't need to have tires rated for 149
>MPH, as I won't go anywhere near that.
>
>2. One of them said that my braking distance would be a little more in
>H rated tires versus the V rated ones. true or not? Sholdn't braking
>distance be a function of brakes, the wheel and the speed? If the tire
>is exactly the same size?
>
>Thanks for the help.
>
>regards

Yes, get the V rated tires. There is a much greater safety factor. I
have taken trips @ 85MPH and feel quite comfortable & safe.

Don't know about the braking.

These tires wear so well, why go with something else?

On 1/16/06 4:06 PM, in article d06os1pf9dsoik2bb812u3m6hrs35q35h6@4ax.com,
"Oldtimer" <Oldtimer@home.net> wrote:

> On 16 Jan 2006 13:28:35 -0800, emptor_caveat@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> My original Michelin MXV4 Plus have worn out, oly after 53000 miles.
>>
>> Can someone recommend replacements? I am not a very aggressive driver,
>> and don't even need the V rated speeds.
>>
>> I heard some remarks from the tire sales people, that I want to
>> validate.
>>
>> 1. One of them said that I should buy the V rated tires instead of H
>> rated ones, (which I prefer) as my suspension is "designed for V rated
>> tires". Any truth in that? I don't need to have tires rated for 149
>> MPH, as I won't go anywhere near that.
>>
>> 2. One of them said that my braking distance would be a little more in
>> H rated tires versus the V rated ones. true or not? Sholdn't braking
>> distance be a function of brakes, the wheel and the speed? If the tire
>> is exactly the same size?
>>
>> Thanks for the help.
>>
>> regards
>
> Yes, get the V rated tires. There is a much greater safety factor. I
> have taken trips @ 85MPH and feel quite comfortable & safe.
>

Why would that make any difference if he goes with H rated tires? 130 mph
(H) vs. 149 MPH (V) both should provide sufficient margin if only driving at
85. My old Infiniti i30s (I had two of them) came with H rated tires and I
have driven them cross country with the cruise set on 85 several times with
no problems.

> Don't know about the braking.
>
> These tires wear so well, why go with something else?

As long as they don't bubble in the sidewalls. Then you will find out the
hard way that Michelin does not stand behind their tires. I replaced the OEM
Michelins with the same thing on my 2000 TL at about that same mileage. One
of them developed a bubble within 1,000 miles. No coverage. Had to eat the
cost of a 5th tire. It will be a cold day in hell before Michelin ever gets
another dime from me.

E Meyer wrote:

> As long as they don't bubble in the sidewalls. Then you will find out the
> hard way that Michelin does not stand behind their tires. I replaced the OEM
> Michelins with the same thing on my 2000 TL at about that same mileage. One
> of them developed a bubble within 1,000 miles. No coverage. Had to eat the
> cost of a 5th tire. It will be a cold day in hell before Michelin ever gets
> another dime from me.
>

I never really cared much the MXV4 Michelins on my 2000 3.2TL. I never
had to make a warranty claim on mine, but I didn't care for the
squealing when turning corners. I am on my third set of tires now, and
they are Toyo Proxes TPT. These are a little road noisier, but they
don't squeal when turning corners. With the unidirectional tread they
have better traction too. IMO they are every bit as good as the original
Michelins...and at $87ea...I can't complain...

On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:57:19 -0500, Stan said:

>E Meyer wrote:
>
>> As long as they don't bubble in the sidewalls. Then you will find out the
>> hard way that Michelin does not stand behind their tires. I replaced the OEM
>> Michelins with the same thing on my 2000 TL at about that same mileage. One
>> of them developed a bubble within 1,000 miles. No coverage. Had to eat the
>> cost of a 5th tire. It will be a cold day in hell before Michelin ever gets
>> another dime from me.
>>
>
>I never really cared much the MXV4 Michelins on my 2000 3.2TL. I never
>had to make a warranty claim on mine, but I didn't care for the
>squealing when turning corners. I am on my third set of tires now, and
>they are Toyo Proxes TPT. These are a little road noisier, but they
>don't squeal when turning corners. With the unidirectional tread they
>have better traction too. IMO they are every bit as good as the original
>Michelins...and at $87ea...I can't complain...

The MXV4 is a touring tire. Why they put a touring tire on a sports
sedan is beyond me. And Michelin's to boot!

--
"I refuse to answer that question on the grounds
that I don't know the answer."
- Douglas Adams

Venture Rider wrote:

> The MXV4 is a touring tire. Why they put a touring tire on a sports
> sedan is beyond me. And Michelin's to boot!

So what in your opinion would be the "ideal" tire for the 2000 TL?

-Stan

On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:01:44 -0500, Stan said:

>Venture Rider wrote:
>
>> The MXV4 is a touring tire. Why they put a touring tire on a sports
>> sedan is beyond me. And Michelin's to boot!
>
>So what in your opinion would be the "ideal" tire for the 2000 TL?
>
>-Stan

I run Goodyear GW3 in the winter, and Goodyear Tripletred the rest of
the time. I am extremely pleased with both.

--
"I refuse to answer that question on the grounds
that I don't know the answer."
- Douglas Adams