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Old 09 Oct 2007, 11:19 pm
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Default S2000 a $34K car ????

I'm wondering:

what makes the S2000 a $34K car ????
It's a 4-banger with only 237 HP and for that price you don't even get
Navigation.
What gives ?


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Old 10 Oct 2007, 06:19 am
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On Oct 10, 12:19 am, "userjohn" <userj...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> I'm wondering:
>
> what makes the S2000 a $34K car ????
> It's a 4-banger with only 237 HP and for that price you don't even get
> Navigation.
> What gives ?


Review S2000 sales figures. Notice that very few disagree with you.
Although the S2000 is a lot more fun to drive than 237HP seems to
indicate, Honda hasn't done much with the car since it's introduction
and sales are in the dumpster.


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Old 10 Oct 2007, 09:25 am
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On Oct 9, 9:19 pm, "userjohn" <userj...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> I'm wondering:
>
> what makes the S2000 a $34K car ????
> It's a 4-banger with only 237 HP and for that price you don't even get
> Navigation.
> What gives ?


There are people who actually enjoy the thrill of driving. I think
the modern word for them is "motorcyclist". It's obvious low inertia
(weight) cars can be accelerated and turned faster. So small is good
for performance. Public streets aren't race tracks anyway. You can
only use so much horsepower. Try to keep a Z06 Corvette at redline in
the twisties and you'll probably wreck in less than a mile. A Honda
Civic is quite doable however. An S2000 has close to double the
horsepower of the Civic.

Breaking marker, hit the brakes, double clutch downshift, Corner
entry, get mostly off the brakes and trail brake up to the apex, get
back slightly on the throttle out to corner exit, straighten the wheel
and accelerate hard from the corner exit to the next braking marker
upshifting as necessary. Next turn has a slight crest of hill, reduce
the corner entry speed, move the corner entry a bit earlier, you want
the car turned more than normal at the peak of the hill as you'll have
less traction than normal, back on the throttle to corner exit and
accelerate down the straight,

No brain power left over to think about nagging wives or obnoxious
bosses. Nirvana!


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Old 10 Oct 2007, 06:36 pm
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Default Re: S2000 a $34K car ????

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:19:58 -0400, "userjohn"
<userjohn@mailinator.com> wrote:

>I'm wondering:
>
>what makes the S2000 a $34K car ????
>It's a 4-banger with only 237 HP and for that price you don't even get
>Navigation.
>What gives ?


It is a purpose-built sports car. It was never intended to sell in
the volumes of a Civic or Accord and therefore the development costs
are amortized over a much smaller number of vehicles.

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Old 10 Oct 2007, 07:45 pm
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camgere@earthlink.net wrote in
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> On Oct 9, 9:19 pm, "userjohn" <userj...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>> I'm wondering:
>>
>> what makes the S2000 a $34K car ????
>> It's a 4-banger with only 237 HP and for that price you don't even get
>> Navigation.
>> What gives ?

>
> There are people who actually enjoy the thrill of driving. I think
> the modern word for them is "motorcyclist". It's obvious low inertia
> (weight) cars can be accelerated and turned faster. So small is good
> for performance. Public streets aren't race tracks anyway. You can
> only use so much horsepower. Try to keep a Z06 Corvette at redline in
> the twisties and you'll probably wreck in less than a mile. A Honda
> Civic is quite doable however. An S2000 has close to double the
> horsepower of the Civic.
>


snip for brevity..

my local auto ads usually have several used S2000s for sale,but no last
model Preludes.


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Old 10 Oct 2007, 07:46 pm
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Gordon McGrew <gmcgrew@mindspring.com> wrote in
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> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:19:58 -0400, "userjohn"
><userjohn@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
>>I'm wondering:
>>
>>what makes the S2000 a $34K car ????
>>It's a 4-banger with only 237 HP and for that price you don't even get
>>Navigation.
>>What gives ?

>
> It is a purpose-built sports car. It was never intended to sell in
> the volumes of a Civic or Accord and therefore the development costs
> are amortized over a much smaller number of vehicles.
>
>


OR,it's priced similar to the Porsche Boxster.(but not equivalent)

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Old 11 Oct 2007, 01:27 am
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Waiving the right to remain silent, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> said:

> Gordon McGrew <gmcgrew@mindspring.com> wrote in
> news:runqg3lppeq7641pme2lpionun3efbqm8t@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:19:58 -0400, "userjohn"
>><userjohn@mailinator.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I'm wondering:
>>>
>>>what makes the S2000 a $34K car ????
>>>It's a 4-banger with only 237 HP and for that price you don't even get
>>>Navigation.
>>>What gives ?

>>
>> It is a purpose-built sports car. It was never intended to sell in
>> the volumes of a Civic or Accord and therefore the development costs
>> are amortized over a much smaller number of vehicles.
>>
>>

>
> OR,it's priced similar to the Porsche Boxster.(but not equivalent)


The Boxter's base price is $45,600. The S2000 is $34,300. Bit of a
difference...

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Old 11 Oct 2007, 09:45 am
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Larry in AZ <usenet2@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote in
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> Waiving the right to remain silent, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> said:
>
>> Gordon McGrew <gmcgrew@mindspring.com> wrote in
>> news:runqg3lppeq7641pme2lpionun3efbqm8t@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:19:58 -0400, "userjohn"
>>><userjohn@mailinator.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm wondering:
>>>>
>>>>what makes the S2000 a $34K car ????
>>>>It's a 4-banger with only 237 HP and for that price you don't even get
>>>>Navigation.
>>>>What gives ?
>>>
>>> It is a purpose-built sports car. It was never intended to sell in
>>> the volumes of a Civic or Accord and therefore the development costs
>>> are amortized over a much smaller number of vehicles.
>>>
>>>

>>
>> OR,it's priced similar to the Porsche Boxster.(but not equivalent)

>
> The Boxter's base price is $45,600. The S2000 is $34,300. Bit of a
> difference...
>


well,of course,you would pay more for the PORSCHE name and quality....
[sarcasm]

plus the Boxster engine has more HP,doesn't it?
(and it's a flat-6 cyl. gotta pay more for a 6 cyl.)

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Old 12 Oct 2007, 05:19 pm
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"userjohn" <userjohn@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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> I'm wondering:
>
> what makes the S2000 a $34K car ????
> It's a 4-banger with only 237 HP and for that price you don't even get
> Navigation.
> What gives ?
>

I have wondered that about the Pontiac Soltices a local dealer advertises at
a bargain 31k. If you want cheap fun the Civic Si coupe or sedan gives a
lot of bang for the buck.


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Old 12 Oct 2007, 08:21 pm
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"tww1491" <twaugh5@cox.net> wrote in
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> "userjohn" <userjohn@mailinator.com> wrote in message
> news:13gokqb7l02ac1@corp.supernews.com...
>> I'm wondering:
>>
>> what makes the S2000 a $34K car ????
>> It's a 4-banger with only 237 HP and for that price you don't even
>> get Navigation.
>> What gives ?
>>

> I have wondered that about the Pontiac Soltices a local dealer
> advertises at a bargain 31k. If you want cheap fun the Civic Si coupe
> or sedan gives a lot of bang for the buck.


But not a drop-top.

how long will a Solstice hold up compared to the Honda?
Hondas/Acuras have excellent reliability,and IMO,the domestic brands do not
have such a good rep.

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