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I am looking at purchasing a 2005 TL, with navigation. I have a few
questions that the dealer could not answer:

How many channel receiver is the actual GPS receiver? My Garmin GPS 5 is a
12 channel.

Does the Acura GPS receciver have WAAS capability?

What is the accuracy in feet on the Acura navigation?

Where is the antenna? Does it have any problems with low signal levels, or
aquisition, since it is apparently not on the roof?

How far in can you go on the receiver? My Garmin can overzoom to 80 feet
full screen.

Is there a screen that shows sginal level of the various satellites and a
compass heading etc, similiar to the GPS 5.

Can the DVD player also play MP3 songs on a CD?

Thanks in advance,..

Does anyone have a link to webpages addressing these issues?

Skip

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:30:35 -0700, "SKIP" <strandbiker1@adelphia.net>
wrote:

>I am looking at purchasing a 2005 TL, with navigation. I have a few
>questions that the dealer could not answer:

I'm looking at the Navigation User's Manual as I try to answer your
questions. My car is a 2005 model TL.

>
>How many channel receiver is the actual GPS receiver? My Garmin GPS 5 is a
>12 channel.

Not addressed.

>
>Does the Acura GPS receciver have WAAS capability?

Not addressed.

>
>What is the accuracy in feet on the Acura navigation?

Well, it knows what street you are on and the direction you are
traveling. So, I'd say +/_ 10 feet or so, more than accurate enough
for street navigation. Actual specs aren't stated.

>
>Where is the antenna? Does it have any problems with low signal levels, or
>aquisition, since it is apparently not on the roof?

My antenna is in a small pod on the roof in the center of the car just
above the rear window. I've only had a signal drop once when I was
driving in a pretty deep valley in West Virginia. Drop lasted about 1
minute.

>
>How far in can you go on the receiver? My Garmin can overzoom to 80 feet
>full screen.

1/20 of a mile (or 80 meters).
>
>Is there a screen that shows sginal level of the various satellites and a
>compass heading etc, similiar to the GPS 5.
>

No.

>Can the DVD player also play MP3 songs on a CD?

Haven't tried this. I'll let you know. Nothing in the manual
discusses this, so I don't think it can.
>
>Thanks in advance,..
>
>Does anyone have a link to webpages addressing these issues?


You might want to look up Navigation Technologies, 10400 W. Higgins
Rd. Rosemont, IL 60018. I think they build the nav side of the
unit.
>
>Skip
>
Paul

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:43:32 GMT, "pj.chris@verizon.net"
<Unknown@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:30:35 -0700, "SKIP" <strandbiker1@adelphia.net>
>wrote:
>
>>I am looking at purchasing a 2005 TL, with navigation. I have a few
>>questions that the dealer could not answer:
>
>I'm looking at the Navigation User's Manual as I try to answer your
>questions. My car is a 2005 model TL.
>
>>
>>How many channel receiver is the actual GPS receiver? My Garmin GPS 5 is a
>>12 channel.
>
>Not addressed.
>
>>
>>Does the Acura GPS receciver have WAAS capability?
>
>Not addressed.
>
>>
>>What is the accuracy in feet on the Acura navigation?
>
>Well, it knows what street you are on and the direction you are
>traveling. So, I'd say +/_ 10 feet or so, more than accurate enough
>for street navigation. Actual specs aren't stated.
>
>>
>>Where is the antenna? Does it have any problems with low signal levels, or
>>aquisition, since it is apparently not on the roof?
>
>My antenna is in a small pod on the roof in the center of the car just
>above the rear window. I've only had a signal drop once when I was
>driving in a pretty deep valley in West Virginia. Drop lasted about 1
>minute.
>
>>
>>How far in can you go on the receiver? My Garmin can overzoom to 80 feet
>>full screen.
>
>1/20 of a mile (or 80 meters).
>>
>>Is there a screen that shows sginal level of the various satellites and a
>>compass heading etc, similiar to the GPS 5.
>>
>
UPDATE: No to the signal levels of the satellites.
North compass heading is shown on screen and the user can select to
have the display oriented always to North or in the actual direction
the car is headed at that moment. North arrow is always shown on the
screen.


>No.
>
>>Can the DVD player also play MP3 songs on a CD?
>
>Haven't tried this. I'll let you know. Nothing in the manual
>discusses this, so I don't think it can.
UPDATE: I did a test of this with MP3's on a CD-R disk and the system
cannot read the disk. It gives a "FORMAT" error and ejects the disk.

>>
>>Thanks in advance,..
>>
>>Does anyone have a link to webpages addressing these issues?
>
>
>You might want to look up Navigation Technologies, 10400 W. Higgins
>Rd. Rosemont, IL 60018. I think they build the nav side of the
>unit.
>>
>>Skip
>>
>Paul

Thanks to everyone regarding the TL Nav info. I will look up Navigation
technologies. If the accuracy is 1/20 of a mile, that equates to264 feet!
Ouch!! How can you tell what side of the road you are on with that kind of
error rate?
"pj.chris@verizon.net" <Unknown@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:8o4pb1dgpii7k4otck71sv4kbsrtp5pu4j@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:43:32 GMT, "pj.chris@verizon.net"
> <Unknown@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:30:35 -0700, "SKIP" <strandbiker1@adelphia.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I am looking at purchasing a 2005 TL, with navigation. I have a few
>>>questions that the dealer could not answer:
>>
>>I'm looking at the Navigation User's Manual as I try to answer your
>>questions. My car is a 2005 model TL.
>>
>>>
>>>How many channel receiver is the actual GPS receiver? My Garmin GPS 5 is
>>>a
>>>12 channel.
>>
>>Not addressed.
>>
>>>
>>>Does the Acura GPS receciver have WAAS capability?
>>
>>Not addressed.
>>
>>>
>>>What is the accuracy in feet on the Acura navigation?
>>
>>Well, it knows what street you are on and the direction you are
>>traveling. So, I'd say +/_ 10 feet or so, more than accurate enough
>>for street navigation. Actual specs aren't stated.
>>
>>>
>>>Where is the antenna? Does it have any problems with low signal levels,
>>>or
>>>aquisition, since it is apparently not on the roof?
>>
>>My antenna is in a small pod on the roof in the center of the car just
>>above the rear window. I've only had a signal drop once when I was
>>driving in a pretty deep valley in West Virginia. Drop lasted about 1
>>minute.
>>
>>>
>>>How far in can you go on the receiver? My Garmin can overzoom to 80 feet
>>>full screen.
>>
>>1/20 of a mile (or 80 meters).
>>>
>>>Is there a screen that shows sginal level of the various satellites and a
>>>compass heading etc, similiar to the GPS 5.
>>>
>>
> UPDATE: No to the signal levels of the satellites.
> North compass heading is shown on screen and the user can select to
> have the display oriented always to North or in the actual direction
> the car is headed at that moment. North arrow is always shown on the
> screen.
>
>
>>No.
>>
>>>Can the DVD player also play MP3 songs on a CD?
>>
>>Haven't tried this. I'll let you know. Nothing in the manual
>>discusses this, so I don't think it can.
> UPDATE: I did a test of this with MP3's on a CD-R disk and the system
> cannot read the disk. It gives a "FORMAT" error and ejects the disk.
>
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance,..
>>>
>>>Does anyone have a link to webpages addressing these issues?
>>
>>
>>You might want to look up Navigation Technologies, 10400 W. Higgins
>>Rd. Rosemont, IL 60018. I think they build the nav side of the
>>unit.
>>>
>>>Skip
>>>
>>Paul
>

SKIP wrote:
> Thanks to everyone regarding the TL Nav info. I will look up Navigation
> technologies. If the accuracy is 1/20 of a mile, that equates to264 feet!
> Ouch!! How can you tell what side of the road you are on with that kind of
> error rate?
> "pj.chris@verizon.net" <Unknown@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:8o4pb1dgpii7k4otck71sv4kbsrtp5pu4j@4ax.com...
>


I dont' believe anyone said the accuracy is 1/20 mile, instead,
the screen can be zoomed to 1/20 mile, meaning the area you see
on the screen equates to 264 feet. It's extremely accurate, in
fact, it also factors in things like yaw rate and speed when
calculating the position. BTW, just to correct a few things others
have said, the antenna is on the rear speaker shelf. The one on
the roof is the XM antenna. You actually can get satellite info
but you need to bring up the diagnostic screens to get it. To
get into diag mode, press and hold the MAP,MENU, and CANCEL
buttons. Lots of really cool stuff there but you can screw up
the system royally if you're not careful. You've been warned!

Dan:

Cool. Sounds better. I do like my Garmin, but it is small and somewaht a
pain to download the maps. I will have to check out the Nav at my local
dealer. When are the )6's coming out and any changes?

S
"Dan" <NoSpam@sorry.net> wrote in message
news:g6OdnSoFGo4X1iDfRVn-oA@comcast.com...
> SKIP wrote:
>> Thanks to everyone regarding the TL Nav info. I will look up Navigation
>> technologies. If the accuracy is 1/20 of a mile, that equates to264 feet!
>> Ouch!! How can you tell what side of the road you are on with that kind
>> of error rate?
>> "pj.chris@verizon.net" <Unknown@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:8o4pb1dgpii7k4otck71sv4kbsrtp5pu4j@4ax.com...
>>
>
>
> I dont' believe anyone said the accuracy is 1/20 mile, instead,
> the screen can be zoomed to 1/20 mile, meaning the area you see
> on the screen equates to 264 feet. It's extremely accurate, in
> fact, it also factors in things like yaw rate and speed when
> calculating the position. BTW, just to correct a few things others
> have said, the antenna is on the rear speaker shelf. The one on
> the roof is the XM antenna. You actually can get satellite info
> but you need to bring up the diagnostic screens to get it. To
> get into diag mode, press and hold the MAP,MENU, and CANCEL
> buttons. Lots of really cool stuff there but you can screw up
> the system royally if you're not careful. You've been warned!
>

On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:27:57 -0700, "SKIP"
<strandbiker1@adelphia.net> wrote:

>Cool. Sounds better. I do like my Garmin, but it is small and somewaht a
>pain to download the maps. I will have to check out the Nav at my local
>dealer. When are the )6's coming out and any changes?

For several years before buying my '04 TL with Navi, I used a
Garmin dash unit (StreetPilot Color). It's really a very nice
unit with the only slight negatives being it's relatively small
screen size and downloading the maps can be a bit of a pain
unless you buy additional and/or larger RAM chips.

However, even with that experience, I can tell you that I've sold
the Garmin unit and I love the TL's Navi. It's just accurate. It
calculates very good routes with different routing options if
desired. The screen is larger than the Garmin units. It's
integrated with the TL's voice system, the Bluetooth system (for
calling POI telephone #'s), and the HVAC system.

A dealer in Texas advised me that when each new model year comes out, is
when they update the DVD for the Nav. Has anyone found that to be true?


"Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:2c5tb1pf9c743l0fk7p36bf61ogh0nm8fv@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:27:57 -0700, "SKIP"
> <strandbiker1@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>>Cool. Sounds better. I do like my Garmin, but it is small and somewaht a
>>pain to download the maps. I will have to check out the Nav at my local
>>dealer. When are the )6's coming out and any changes?
>
> For several years before buying my '04 TL with Navi, I used a
> Garmin dash unit (StreetPilot Color). It's really a very nice
> unit with the only slight negatives being it's relatively small
> screen size and downloading the maps can be a bit of a pain
> unless you buy additional and/or larger RAM chips.
>
> However, even with that experience, I can tell you that I've sold
> the Garmin unit and I love the TL's Navi. It's just accurate. It
> calculates very good routes with different routing options if
> desired. The screen is larger than the Garmin units. It's
> integrated with the TL's voice system, the Bluetooth system (for
> calling POI telephone #'s), and the HVAC system.

No. There have been 3 updates since my 2000 TL was new (5 years).

On 6/26/05 3:24 PM, in article MPudnRy7jrySkiLfRVn-1Q@adelphia.com, "SKIP"
<strandbiker1@adelphia.net> wrote:

> A dealer in Texas advised me that when each new model year comes out, is
> when they update the DVD for the Nav. Has anyone found that to be true?
>
>
> "Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:2c5tb1pf9c743l0fk7p36bf61ogh0nm8fv@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:27:57 -0700, "SKIP"
>> <strandbiker1@adelphia.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Cool. Sounds better. I do like my Garmin, but it is small and somewaht a
>>> pain to download the maps. I will have to check out the Nav at my local
>>> dealer. When are the )6's coming out and any changes?
>>
>> For several years before buying my '04 TL with Navi, I used a
>> Garmin dash unit (StreetPilot Color). It's really a very nice
>> unit with the only slight negatives being it's relatively small
>> screen size and downloading the maps can be a bit of a pain
>> unless you buy additional and/or larger RAM chips.
>>
>> However, even with that experience, I can tell you that I've sold
>> the Garmin unit and I love the TL's Navi. It's just accurate. It
>> calculates very good routes with different routing options if
>> desired. The screen is larger than the Garmin units. It's
>> integrated with the TL's voice system, the Bluetooth system (for
>> calling POI telephone #'s), and the HVAC system.
>
>

"SKIP" <strandbiker1@adelphia.net> wrote in
news:MPudnRy7jrySkiLfRVn-1Q@adelphia.com:

> A dealer in Texas advised me that when each new model year comes out,
> is when they update the DVD for the Nav. Has anyone found that to be
> true?


Yes. They have to, just like a paper map. Streets change and are added.
Highways are re-routed. Etc., etc., etc...

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