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Old 21 Apr 2005, 07:32 pm
SoCalMike
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Elle wrote:
>
> I have my eye on the Toyota Echo as my next car.


no, no, noooooooo! for gods sake, no!

at least check out the scion xA and xB. more useable room, more
features, and its got real 15" wheels on it. same platform and
drivetrain, too.

the echo is just plain dorky and gangly looking.
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Old 21 Apr 2005, 08:35 pm
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:32:35 -0700, SoCalMike wrote:

>Elle wrote:
>>
>> I have my eye on the Toyota Echo as my next car.

>
>no, no, noooooooo! for gods sake, no!
>
>at least check out the scion xA and xB. more useable room, more
>features, and its got real 15" wheels on it. same platform and
>drivetrain, too.
>
>the echo is just plain dorky and gangly looking.


I hate Toyota. Please don't buy their crap.

--
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me
than a frontal lobotomy.
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Old 21 Apr 2005, 09:21 pm
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Oh thank you mike; that's way MORE than enough to convince me not to
even think about attempting it myself! I've changed belts in other
devices (like washing machines) and thought "Hey, how hard can it be to
change a belt....".

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Old 21 Apr 2005, 11:15 pm
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"SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote
> Elle wrote:
> >
> > I have my eye on the Toyota Echo as my next car.

>
> no, no, noooooooo! for gods sake, no!
>
> at least check out the scion xA and xB. more useable room, more
> features, and its got real 15" wheels on it. same platform and
> drivetrain, too.
>
> the echo is just plain dorky and gangly looking.


I think we've been over this before. I'm pretty sure it was the Echo's price
and I think better fuel mileage that still makes me lean its way. Or I can't
get a Scion where I live easily? Can't remember.

Scion xA 32/37 mpg
xB 31/34

Echo 35/42


Anyway, I'm aiming for around four more years on my Civic. It's doing pretty
well now that I have it out West, away from those northern winters and all
that road salt. As I've said many a time now.


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Old 24 Apr 2005, 08:47 pm
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By the time you're ready to get a new car, the Honda Jazz will be out and I
bet it will
get better milleage than the Echo with nicer features.


"Elle" <elle_navorski@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:AT_9e.10183$yq6.1803@newsread3.news.pas.earth link.net...
> "SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote
>> Elle wrote:
>> >
>> > I have my eye on the Toyota Echo as my next car.

>>
>> no, no, noooooooo! for gods sake, no!
>>
>> at least check out the scion xA and xB. more useable room, more
>> features, and its got real 15" wheels on it. same platform and
>> drivetrain, too.
>>
>> the echo is just plain dorky and gangly looking.

>
> I think we've been over this before. I'm pretty sure it was the Echo's
> price
> and I think better fuel mileage that still makes me lean its way. Or I
> can't
> get a Scion where I live easily? Can't remember.
>
> Scion xA 32/37 mpg
> xB 31/34
>
> Echo 35/42
>
>
> Anyway, I'm aiming for around four more years on my Civic. It's doing
> pretty
> well now that I have it out West, away from those northern winters and all
> that road salt. As I've said many a time now.
>
>



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Old 24 Apr 2005, 10:00 pm
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Thanks for the tip. I hadn't heard of this, so I googled. I see it's
currently a 1.4 liter engine. That's a good start, AFAIC. And 83 hp! Ha ha
ha... um, but if it gets over 40 mpg, fine. :-)

Dunno whether it's available anywhere in the U.S. yet, like you imply. The
hits I got seemed to be from Japanese and UK oriented sites, in general.

"Nightdude" <nightdude@rogers.com> wrote
> By the time you're ready to get a new car, the Honda Jazz will be out and

I
> bet it will
> get better milleage than the Echo with nicer features.




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Old 25 Apr 2005, 07:40 am
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Nightdude wrote:
> By the time you're ready to get a new car, the Honda Jazz will be out and I
> bet it will
> get better milleage than the Echo with nicer features.


from what ive read. its supposed to be out this september. or at least
introduced this fall, maybe for a spring '06 release. i rememer
researching the EU model, and its got some trick back seats that fold
flat. right in time for the current gas crunch, too. i bet it sells
well. so basically, good luck getting one at a sane price.

might make dealers more willing to deal on echos, though.
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Old 07 May 2005, 06:02 pm
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Since when are Honda parts cheaper than Toyota parts? I thought it was just
the opposite. I have had a Civic, two Corollas, and an Odyssey and never
found anything cheaper on the Hondas. If anything it was the other way
around.

Leonard

"Nightdude" <nightdude@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:XS_8e.4377$Jg5.401843@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> I can tell you that Honda parts are usually much cheaper than Toyotas. And
> Tercels are pretty
> much stripped. When I was looking for a new one back then, it didn't even
> have a radio or rear speakers. A wheel cover was an option
>
> Though, depending who owned the Integra, it can be in a very bad shape or

in
> very poor shape. If it was the sedan, you might get better deal, as it

might
> not be heavily modded or raced.
>
>
>
>
> "Rory Calhoun" <deleteme@posyrorer.mailshell.com> wrote in message
> news:fbc3b3be.0504181920.77fe9f53@posting.google.c om...
> >I need to make a decision quick between a 93 Acura Integra RS and a 96
> > Toyota Tercel (both about 188,000km on the odometer). I know they are
> > very different cars, and both have their appeal to me. I prefer the
> > comfort, performance and feeling of security (from accidents) you get
> > driving the Integra, but I like the economy (gas mileage) of the
> > Tercel. (I drove both around the block, and for what its worth, the
> > Tercel seems to have a very quiet engine and responsive steering). The
> > hanging question to help me decide is which car is more reliable, and
> > does one (ie. the Integra) cost far more than the other when it comes
> > to replacement parts?
> >
> > I've researched reliability ratings on both these cars on MSN Autos
> > (the Tercel has a better record), but I'm not sure that the stats of
> > one site can be the final word on reliability, and there's nothing
> > there about parts prices. Can anyone answer these questions for
> > certain, from either research or experience? Thanks!

>
>



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