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Any help would be greatly appreciated. I found a 1991 one owner Integra GS
with the automatic transmission for my daughter, it's in like new condition
i.e. seats, rubber, paint and body and runs/looks good no leaks, but high
mileage at 144000 miles.
The service records are in order and has recently had timing belt, hoses,
water pump and belts replaced.

Now the problem, there is a noise, as if a fan motor is running but dragging
or as if hitting something, or as if a pump is running but cavitating. The
noise comes from the right side as if from the transaxle. It's relatively
loud and can be heard from inside the car. It is intermittent but at regular
intervals but only does it when the car is moving or will complete the cycle
when stopped but never start until the car is moving again. When driving the
sound never speeds up/down and is consistent in all gears. The transmission
shifts smooth and solid

The a/c is off and it is not the cooling fans.

Thanks in advance for any help in this matter,

Jay

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:23:59 -0600, "Jay Orcutt"
<jlorcutt@spamgrandecom.net> wrote:

>there is a noise, as if a fan motor is running but dragging
>or as if hitting something, or as if a pump is running but cavitating. The
>noise comes from the right side as if from the transaxle. It's relatively
>loud and can be heard from inside the car. It is intermittent but at regular
>intervals but only does it when the car is moving or will complete the cycle
>when stopped but never start until the car is moving again. When driving the
>sound never speeds up/down and is consistent in all gears. The transmission
>shifts smooth and solid

ABS pump?

Try this: release the park brake but leave it up one notch from off.
After starting up and driving away the ABS system will fail its self
test and shut down, lighting the ABS light. Drive for a while with the
ABS off and see if your noise has gone away. If it has, suspect the
ABS pump which can make strange, intermittent groans.

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:23:59 -0600, "Jay Orcutt"
<jlorcutt@spamgrandecom.net> wrote:

>Any help would be greatly appreciated. I found a 1991 one owner Integra GS
>with the automatic transmission for my daughter, it's in like new condition
>i.e. seats, rubber, paint and body and runs/looks good no leaks, but high
>mileage at 144000 miles.
>The service records are in order and has recently had timing belt, hoses,
>water pump and belts replaced.
>
>Now the problem, there is a noise, as if a fan motor is running but dragging
>or as if hitting something, or as if a pump is running but cavitating. The
>noise comes from the right side as if from the transaxle. It's relatively
>loud and can be heard from inside the car. It is intermittent but at regular
>intervals but only does it when the car is moving or will complete the cycle
>when stopped but never start until the car is moving again. When driving the
>sound never speeds up/down and is consistent in all gears. The transmission
>shifts smooth and solid
>
>The a/c is off and it is not the cooling fans.
>
>Thanks in advance for any help in this matter,
>
>Jay
>
>
I second the motion for the ABS pump. The tip off is that the noise
only happens when the car is moving above a certain speed.

John Ings <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in
news:topp115je3m82d10l982bhek42ns50kavs@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:23:59 -0600, "Jay Orcutt"
> <jlorcutt@spamgrandecom.net> wrote:
>
>>there is a noise, as if a fan motor is running but dragging
>>or as if hitting something, or as if a pump is running but cavitating.
>>The noise comes from the right side as if from the transaxle. It's
>>relatively loud and can be heard from inside the car. It is
>>intermittent but at regular intervals but only does it when the car is
>>moving or will complete the cycle when stopped but never start until
>>the car is moving again. When driving the sound never speeds up/down
>>and is consistent in all gears. The transmission shifts smooth and
>>solid
>
> ABS pump?
>
> Try this: release the park brake but leave it up one notch from off.
> After starting up and driving away the ABS system will fail its self
> test and shut down, lighting the ABS light. Drive for a while with the
> ABS off and see if your noise has gone away. If it has, suspect the
> ABS pump which can make strange, intermittent groans.
>
>
>



Pump and accumulator are under the battery.

I'll bet the accumulator is bad and is leaking gas pressure. This would
cause the pump to run a lot.

If the pump is unable to pressurize the system correctly within 120
seconds, the ALB light will illuminate.

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Thanks Guys,

That was it, after disabling the ABS the noise stopped! I have checked the
fluid level for the ABS system and found it to be overfilled. Could this be
an indicator of an impending problem? The system never set any codes and
when testing the car under hard braking the ABS worked.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Jay
"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns9606E44696E7Eteggeratistop@207.14.113.17.. .
> John Ings <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in
> news:topp115je3m82d10l982bhek42ns50kavs@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:23:59 -0600, "Jay Orcutt"
>> <jlorcutt@spamgrandecom.net> wrote:
>>
>>>there is a noise, as if a fan motor is running but dragging
>>>or as if hitting something, or as if a pump is running but cavitating.
>>>The noise comes from the right side as if from the transaxle. It's
>>>relatively loud and can be heard from inside the car. It is
>>>intermittent but at regular intervals but only does it when the car is
>>>moving or will complete the cycle when stopped but never start until
>>>the car is moving again. When driving the sound never speeds up/down
>>>and is consistent in all gears. The transmission shifts smooth and
>>>solid
>>
>> ABS pump?
>>
>> Try this: release the park brake but leave it up one notch from off.
>> After starting up and driving away the ABS system will fail its self
>> test and shut down, lighting the ABS light. Drive for a while with the
>> ABS off and see if your noise has gone away. If it has, suspect the
>> ABS pump which can make strange, intermittent groans.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> Pump and accumulator are under the battery.
>
> I'll bet the accumulator is bad and is leaking gas pressure. This would
> cause the pump to run a lot.
>
> If the pump is unable to pressurize the system correctly within 120
> seconds, the ALB light will illuminate.
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:08:15 -0600, "Jay Orcutt"
<jlorcutt@spamgrandecom.net> wrote:

>Thanks Guys,
>
>That was it, after disabling the ABS the noise stopped! I have checked the
>fluid level for the ABS system and found it to be overfilled. Could this be
>an indicator of an impending problem? The system never set any codes and
>when testing the car under hard braking the ABS worked.
>
>Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>
The ABS system may need to be bled. If there is air in the system, the
pump will continuously try to pressurize the system. Read the warnings
in the shop manual about ABS work and follow them or consider taking
it to the dealer.

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:23:59 -0600, "Jay Orcutt"
<jlorcutt@spamgrandecom.net> wrote:

>Any help would be greatly appreciated. I found a 1991 one owner Integra GS
>with the automatic transmission for my daughter, it's in like new condition
>i.e. seats, rubber, paint and body and runs/looks good no leaks, but high
>mileage at 144000 miles.
>The service records are in order and has recently had timing belt, hoses,
>water pump and belts replaced.
>
>Now the problem, there is a noise, as if a fan motor is running but dragging
>or as if hitting something, or as if a pump is running but cavitating. The
>noise comes from the right side as if from the transaxle. It's relatively
>loud and can be heard from inside the car. It is intermittent but at regular
>intervals but only does it when the car is moving or will complete the cycle
>when stopped but never start until the car is moving again. When driving the
>sound never speeds up/down and is consistent in all gears. The transmission
>shifts smooth and solid
>
>The a/c is off and it is not the cooling fans.
>
>Thanks in advance for any help in this matter,
>
>Jay
>
>
Get it. I have one (manual) . It has been the most reliable car I ever
had and I had more then 20.
Twice I went to the dealer for the recommended service ( new clutch
and valves adjustments) and was told not to waist money until the
clutch starts failing and the valves make noise. He ( the manager)
said that it has seen 91 Acuras that don't need that before they have
250k miles. Mine has 100k

Vlad

I agree, 144K not that high. I have a 91 Integra (manual) purchased
with 99K, now has 239,999K. Still going strong. Only dealer service has
been (timing belt/water pump).

Vlad wrote:

>On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:23:59 -0600, "Jay Orcutt"
><jlorcutt@spamgrandecom.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Any help would be greatly appreciated. I found a 1991 one owner Integra GS
>>with the automatic transmission for my daughter, it's in like new condition
>>i.e. seats, rubber, paint and body and runs/looks good no leaks, but high
>>mileage at 144000 miles.
>>The service records are in order and has recently had timing belt, hoses,
>>water pump and belts replaced.
>>
>>Now the problem, there is a noise, as if a fan motor is running but dragging
>>or as if hitting something, or as if a pump is running but cavitating. The
>>noise comes from the right side as if from the transaxle. It's relatively
>>loud and can be heard from inside the car. It is intermittent but at regular
>>intervals but only does it when the car is moving or will complete the cycle
>>when stopped but never start until the car is moving again. When driving the
>>sound never speeds up/down and is consistent in all gears. The transmission
>>shifts smooth and solid
>>
>>The a/c is off and it is not the cooling fans.
>>
>>Thanks in advance for any help in this matter,
>>
>>Jay
>>
>>
>>
>>
>Get it. I have one (manual) . It has been the most reliable car I ever
>had and I had more then 20.
>Twice I went to the dealer for the recommended service ( new clutch
>and valves adjustments) and was told not to waist money until the
>clutch starts failing and the valves make noise. He ( the manager)
>said that it has seen 91 Acuras that don't need that before they have
>250k miles. Mine has 100k
>
>Vlad
>
>