Honda Car Forum

I had a 1999, 3.2TL and it was getting approximately 28mpg average.
Unfortunately it got totaled. As a replacement, I bought a 2000, 3.2 TL and
on average, I'm getting about 22mpg average. Now with the winter season,
I'm getting an average of 18.5 over the last 4-5 tanks. My driving habits
and distances have not changed and I always buy gas from the same dealer and
use the same grade.

I thought that the 5 speed transmission would result in better mileage but
it looks like I'm wrong. Any one have any ideas as to what the problem is??

Thanks in advance

Tony

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:36:19 -0500, "TR" <trome(spam)@canada.com>
removed the duct tape and proclaimed:

>I had a 1999, 3.2TL and it was getting approximately 28mpg average.
>Unfortunately it got totaled. As a replacement, I bought a 2000, 3.2 TL and
>on average, I'm getting about 22mpg average. Now with the winter season,
>I'm getting an average of 18.5 over the last 4-5 tanks. My driving habits
>and distances have not changed and I always buy gas from the same dealer and
>use the same grade.
>
>I thought that the 5 speed transmission would result in better mileage but
>it looks like I'm wrong. Any one have any ideas as to what the problem is??
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Tony
>
If you are driving mostly city and warming up your car for a long
time, leaving it idling more than you would in the summer, your
mileage will go down. With my 2001, as soon as I use the highway a
bit, my mileage goes up noticibly.

But you know what? In the end, I just tell myself that this is part of
driving such a car. And, man, it's worth it! ;-)

--
I put 2 and 2 together and got 22.

On 12/26/04 11:36 AM, in article md-dnRqNbdATa1PcRVn-rw@rogers.com, "TR"
<tromespam@canada.com> wrote:

> I had a 1999, 3.2TL and it was getting approximately 28mpg average.
> Unfortunately it got totaled. As a replacement, I bought a 2000, 3.2 TL and
> on average, I'm getting about 22mpg average. Now with the winter season,
> I'm getting an average of 18.5 over the last 4-5 tanks. My driving habits
> and distances have not changed and I always buy gas from the same dealer and
> use the same grade.
>
> I thought that the 5 speed transmission would result in better mileage but
> it looks like I'm wrong. Any one have any ideas as to what the problem is??
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Tony
>
>
My '00 TL gets about 22 in pure stop and go city driving and 30-32 on the
highway. You might try re-training the computer - pull the 7.5 amp fuse
marked "backup" in the passenger side in-car fuse box for ten seconds. It
will start over with default shift points and "learn" your style.

If you let it idle in place, the gas simply disappears. I don't think they
idle very efficiently.

When mine was newer and had some drivability issues, the dealer recommended
either switching to Chevron gas or putting a can of Techron in it every once
in a while. Things usually cleared up after about three tanks doing that.
You are using high octane gas, right?

You might also take a look to see if the air filter is socked up.

Thanks for the insight. I'll try pulling the fuse. The previous owner was
in his 70's and I'm sure my driving habits are much different. I'm using
Sunoco 92 & 94 in the car currently and don't let it idle for any amount of
time at all. The air filter was also replaced recently so it shouldn't be
a problem.

I know this car can get better mileage but I just have to figure out how.

Thanks again.

Tony
"E. Meyer" <e52.meyer@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BDF5950F.B7537%e52.meyer@ieee.org...
> On 12/26/04 11:36 AM, in article md-dnRqNbdATa1PcRVn-rw@rogers.com, "TR"
> <tromespam@canada.com> wrote:
>
>> I had a 1999, 3.2TL and it was getting approximately 28mpg average.
>> Unfortunately it got totaled. As a replacement, I bought a 2000, 3.2 TL
>> and
>> on average, I'm getting about 22mpg average. Now with the winter
>> season,
>> I'm getting an average of 18.5 over the last 4-5 tanks. My driving
>> habits
>> and distances have not changed and I always buy gas from the same dealer
>> and
>> use the same grade.
>>
>> I thought that the 5 speed transmission would result in better mileage
>> but
>> it looks like I'm wrong. Any one have any ideas as to what the problem
>> is??
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
> My '00 TL gets about 22 in pure stop and go city driving and 30-32 on the
> highway. You might try re-training the computer - pull the 7.5 amp fuse
> marked "backup" in the passenger side in-car fuse box for ten seconds. It
> will start over with default shift points and "learn" your style.
>
> If you let it idle in place, the gas simply disappears. I don't think
> they
> idle very efficiently.
>
> When mine was newer and had some drivability issues, the dealer
> recommended
> either switching to Chevron gas or putting a can of Techron in it every
> once
> in a while. Things usually cleared up after about three tanks doing that.
> You are using high octane gas, right?
>
> You might also take a look to see if the air filter is socked up.
>

My 2004 TL gas mileage is terrible in town. I spent today driving in all
city conditions and my average is only 15 mpg.

We took a trip on Christmas day and the car averaged 28 mpg. It's quite
remarkable that the variation is so great. I always use premium gasoline.

- Russ in Santa Barbara (in the rain today)


"TR" <trome(spam)@canada.com> wrote in message
news:md-dnRqNbdATa1PcRVn-rw@rogers.com...
> I had a 1999, 3.2TL and it was getting approximately 28mpg average.
> Unfortunately it got totaled. As a replacement, I bought a 2000, 3.2 TL
and
> on average, I'm getting about 22mpg average. Now with the winter season,
> I'm getting an average of 18.5 over the last 4-5 tanks. My driving habits
> and distances have not changed and I always buy gas from the same dealer
and
> use the same grade.
>
> I thought that the 5 speed transmission would result in better mileage but
> it looks like I'm wrong. Any one have any ideas as to what the problem
is??
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Tony
>
>