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Old 09 Nov 2004, 04:18 am
Stan Borthwick
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Default carboning up of engine 2001 Cl

Yesterday my car was in for repairs due to an engine trouble light and a
TCS light coming on. I gassed up the vehicle on Sunday, came home and
when starting it up later in the afternoon, got a rough idle and these
two lights came on. The car was in and it had the fuel system taken
apart and cleaned and the intake ignitors and system decarbonized. It
was reported that the car engine was carboned up and the fuel system was
running extremely lean. In discussing this with the technician, he
reported that because of the slow revs of the six cylinders Accuras and
Hondas they are prone to this problem.
No trouble before with this car. The vehicle has 88k on it. The only
solution was to drive the care in low gear to raise the revs and clean
out the carbon.
Has anyone had similiar problems and what solution have they tried to
prevent it from happening again. Repairs were 500 canadian dollars

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Old 11 Nov 2004, 12:50 am
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Default Re: carboning up of engine 2001 Cl

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 05:18:50 -0500, Stan Borthwick
<stan.borthwick@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Has anyone had similiar problems and what solution have they tried to
>prevent it from happening again.


The classic cure is the "Italian tuneup", just race around town with a
lead foot for a few minutes a week.

It's a little tough to do with a six-cylinder car, too powerful,
compared to my old 1981 Alfa Romeo, you could rev that bastid all day
long and barely break the speed limit. God bless modern engineering!

J.


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Old 11 Nov 2004, 04:43 am
Stan Borthwick
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Default Re: carboning up of engine 2001 Cl

That was my solution knowing what the problem is, that of a low reving
high hp engine. The technician advised me that all honda/acura six
cylinder cars are equally affected. Knowing this, (a Service bulliten has
been issued) Not available to the buyers of Honda /Acura, my concern is
that acura did not advise all six banger owners of the need to occasionly
rev the engine using low gear to clear the carbon from the ignitors.
Speed alone will not clean because the auto will up shift and lower revs
unless one exceeds 140 km where the engine is turing over at a higher rev
rate.

JXStern wrote:

> On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 05:18:50 -0500, Stan Borthwick
> <stan.borthwick@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >Has anyone had similiar problems and what solution have they tried to
> >prevent it from happening again.

>
> The classic cure is the "Italian tuneup", just race around town with a
> lead foot for a few minutes a week.
>
> It's a little tough to do with a six-cylinder car, too powerful,
> compared to my old 1981 Alfa Romeo, you could rev that bastid all day
> long and barely break the speed limit. God bless modern engineering!
>
> J.


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Old 15 Nov 2004, 01:32 pm
John Bohnovic
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Default Re: carboning up of engine 2001 Cl

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 05:18:50 -0500, Stan Borthwick
<stan.borthwick@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>Yesterday my car was in for repairs due to an engine trouble light and a
>TCS light coming on. I gassed up the vehicle on Sunday, came home and
>when starting it up later in the afternoon, got a rough idle and these
>two lights came on. The car was in and it had the fuel system taken
>apart and cleaned and the intake ignitors and system decarbonized. It
>was reported that the car engine was carboned up and the fuel system was
>running extremely lean. In discussing this with the technician, he
>reported that because of the slow revs of the six cylinders Accuras and
>Hondas they are prone to this problem.
>No trouble before with this car. The vehicle has 88k on it. The only
>solution was to drive the care in low gear to raise the revs and clean
>out the carbon.
>Has anyone had similiar problems and what solution have they tried to
>prevent it from happening again. Repairs were 500 canadian dollars



My wife has a 2001 CS type S that was diagnosed by the dealer as being
a carbon problem. He discovered this after he changed the computer,
injectors etc.. He warned us about using Amoco/BP gasoline as he said
they have had other vehicles that had carbon problems and were using
this gas. My wife was burning only Amoco high test up until this time.

She only burns it when she can't find anything else while we are on
the road.

BTW, my buddy has a lawn mower that kept carboning up on him. Guess
what he was using for fuel? Amoco.

I don't know if the Amoco formula is still the same as we are afraid
to go back to it on a full time basis. It may be okay now. This all
happened back in 2001 and the dealer was located in Bedford, Ohio.

de John in Pembroke Pines, FL
73..de John/K4WJ
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