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Bought 2004 TL new March '04 as wife's car. At 8,700 miles (virtually all
her driving) the rear tires and only the rear tires were treadless, front
tires were ok. The tires had never been rotated. Dealer checked car and
found nothing wrong. Bridgestone dealer would not adjust tires since he did
not see car first. Dealer agreed to pay for replacement set of Bridgestones
but I checked around and paid difference for a set of Yokohama's. Car now
has about 11500 miles and all tires seem to wearing uniform across tread and
the same for all tires (front and rear). BUT the projected tread life is
only 20,000 to 22,000 miles. In other words I'll need another set of tires
when the car reaches about 30,000 miles. This is not normal relative to my
other vehicles but I am wondering about other TL owner tire wear experience.
BTW, my wife's driving is about 75 miles per day (highway) 5 days a week.
Little if any time is spent as in-town driving. Any comments would be
appreciated. Thanks.

KnockKnock wrote:
> Bought 2004 TL new March '04 as wife's car. At 8,700 miles (virtually all
> her driving) the rear tires and only the rear tires were treadless, front
> tires were ok. ...I am wondering about other TL owner tire wear experience.

I've got a little over 11,000 miles and wear on my tires seems virtually
identical front to back.

My CL-S is tough on front tires and very easy on the rears.
You have quite a mystery, assuming the rear alignment is not way off...
Maybe the tire maker left out some secret ingredient in mfg process.

"KnockKnock" <knockknock@fox.net> wrote in message
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> Bought 2004 TL new March '04 as wife's car. At 8,700 miles (virtually all
> her driving) the rear tires and only the rear tires were treadless, front
> tires were ok. The tires had never been rotated. Dealer checked car and
> found nothing wrong. Bridgestone dealer would not adjust tires since he
> did
> not see car first. Dealer agreed to pay for replacement set of
> Bridgestones
> but I checked around and paid difference for a set of Yokohama's. Car
> now
> has about 11500 miles and all tires seem to wearing uniform across tread
> and
> the same for all tires (front and rear). BUT the projected tread life is
> only 20,000 to 22,000 miles. In other words I'll need another set of
> tires
> when the car reaches about 30,000 miles. This is not normal relative to
> my
> other vehicles but I am wondering about other TL owner tire wear
> experience.
> BTW, my wife's driving is about 75 miles per day (highway) 5 days a week.
> Little if any time is spent as in-town driving. Any comments would be
> appreciated. Thanks.
>
>

Maybe you got one of the prototype rear wheel drive models?


"KnockKnock" <knockknock@fox.net> wrote in message
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> Bought 2004 TL new March '04 as wife's car. At 8,700 miles (virtually all
> her driving) the rear tires and only the rear tires were treadless, front
> tires were ok. The tires had never been rotated. Dealer checked car and
> found nothing wrong. Bridgestone dealer would not adjust tires since he
did
> not see car first. Dealer agreed to pay for replacement set of
Bridgestones
> but I checked around and paid difference for a set of Yokohama's. Car
now
> has about 11500 miles and all tires seem to wearing uniform across tread
and
> the same for all tires (front and rear). BUT the projected tread life is
> only 20,000 to 22,000 miles. In other words I'll need another set of
tires
> when the car reaches about 30,000 miles. This is not normal relative to
my
> other vehicles but I am wondering about other TL owner tire wear
experience.
> BTW, my wife's driving is about 75 miles per day (highway) 5 days a week.
> Little if any time is spent as in-town driving. Any comments would be
> appreciated. Thanks.
>
>

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 21:26:28 GMT, "Carl S. Moore"
<csmNOSPAM@comcast.net> jumped in and said:

I was thinking he has the parking brake on.

>Maybe you got one of the prototype rear wheel drive models?
>
>
>"KnockKnock" <knockknock@fox.net> wrote in message
>news:dCXbd.18204$_g6.9379@okepread03...
>> Bought 2004 TL new March '04 as wife's car. At 8,700 miles (virtually all
>> her driving) the rear tires and only the rear tires were treadless, front
>> tires were ok. The tires had never been rotated. Dealer checked car and
>> found nothing wrong. Bridgestone dealer would not adjust tires since he
>did
>> not see car first. Dealer agreed to pay for replacement set of
>Bridgestones
>> but I checked around and paid difference for a set of Yokohama's. Car
>now
>> has about 11500 miles and all tires seem to wearing uniform across tread
>and
>> the same for all tires (front and rear). BUT the projected tread life is
>> only 20,000 to 22,000 miles. In other words I'll need another set of
>tires
>> when the car reaches about 30,000 miles. This is not normal relative to
>my
>> other vehicles but I am wondering about other TL owner tire wear
>experience.
>> BTW, my wife's driving is about 75 miles per day (highway) 5 days a week.
>> Little if any time is spent as in-town driving. Any comments would be
>> appreciated. Thanks.
>>
>>
>

--
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.

Bruno wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 21:26:28 GMT, "Carl S. Moore"
> <csmNOSPAM@comcast.net> jumped in and said:
>
> I was thinking he has the parking brake on.

Nobody could be that dumb. <eg>
>
>> Maybe you got one of the prototype rear wheel drive models?
>>
>>
>> "KnockKnock" <knockknock@fox.net> wrote in message
>> news:dCXbd.18204$_g6.9379@okepread03...
>>> Bought 2004 TL new March '04 as wife's car. At 8,700 miles
>>> (virtually all her driving) the rear tires and only the rear tires
>>> were treadless, front tires were ok. The tires had never been
>>> rotated. Dealer checked car and found nothing wrong. Bridgestone
>>> dealer would not adjust tires since he did not see car first.
>>> Dealer agreed to pay for replacement set of Bridgestones but I
>>> checked around and paid difference for a set of Yokohama's. Car
>>> now has about 11500 miles and all tires seem to wearing uniform
>>> across tread and the same for all tires (front and rear). BUT the
>>> projected tread life is only 20,000 to 22,000 miles. In other
>>> words I'll need another set of tires when the car reaches about
>>> 30,000 miles. This is not normal relative to my other vehicles but
>>> I am wondering about other TL owner tire wear experience. BTW, my
>>> wife's driving is about 75 miles per day (highway) 5 days a week.
>>> Little if any time is spent as in-town driving. Any comments would
>>> be appreciated. Thanks.

tell your wife to take the parking brake off while driving ;-)
just kidding, hope your wife is not reading ;-)

on the other hand, these things (parking brakes) get stuck sometime but
mostly on older car, in that situation you would also have abnormal wear
on the parking brakes components. Only other thing I can see is allignment.

Odds of 2 defective tires put on the rear of your car is slim.

-john


KnockKnock wrote:
> Bought 2004 TL new March '04 as wife's car. At 8,700 miles (virtually all
> her driving) the rear tires and only the rear tires were treadless, front
> tires were ok. The tires had never been rotated. Dealer checked car and
> found nothing wrong. Bridgestone dealer would not adjust tires since he did
> not see car first. Dealer agreed to pay for replacement set of Bridgestones
> but I checked around and paid difference for a set of Yokohama's. Car now
> has about 11500 miles and all tires seem to wearing uniform across tread and
> the same for all tires (front and rear). BUT the projected tread life is
> only 20,000 to 22,000 miles. In other words I'll need another set of tires
> when the car reaches about 30,000 miles. This is not normal relative to my
> other vehicles but I am wondering about other TL owner tire wear experience.
> BTW, my wife's driving is about 75 miles per day (highway) 5 days a week.
> Little if any time is spent as in-town driving. Any comments would be
> appreciated. Thanks.
>
>

Emergency brake was the first thing I checked as well as the dealer. Lots
of travel. In addition neither the rear rotors or the rear emergency brake
drums showed any signs of heat. Just normal wear. As of now it's still a
mystery.


"john" <rsx1877@mistralaero.com> wrote in message
news:9vsed.35602$J16.2154228@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> tell your wife to take the parking brake off while driving ;-)
> just kidding, hope your wife is not reading ;-)
>
> on the other hand, these things (parking brakes) get stuck sometime but
> mostly on older car, in that situation you would also have abnormal wear
> on the parking brakes components. Only other thing I can see is
allignment.
>
> Odds of 2 defective tires put on the rear of your car is slim.
>
> -john
>
>
> KnockKnock wrote:
> > Bought 2004 TL new March '04 as wife's car. At 8,700 miles (virtually
all
> > her driving) the rear tires and only the rear tires were treadless,
front
> > tires were ok. The tires had never been rotated. Dealer checked car
and
> > found nothing wrong. Bridgestone dealer would not adjust tires since he
did
> > not see car first. Dealer agreed to pay for replacement set of
Bridgestones
> > but I checked around and paid difference for a set of Yokohama's. Car
now
> > has about 11500 miles and all tires seem to wearing uniform across tread
and
> > the same for all tires (front and rear). BUT the projected tread life
is
> > only 20,000 to 22,000 miles. In other words I'll need another set of
tires
> > when the car reaches about 30,000 miles. This is not normal relative to
my
> > other vehicles but I am wondering about other TL owner tire wear
experience.
> > BTW, my wife's driving is about 75 miles per day (highway) 5 days a
week.
> > Little if any time is spent as in-town driving. Any comments would be
> > appreciated. Thanks.
> >
> >

Acura is fully aware of the tire wear problem and will replace your first
set of tires. If yours is a manual you will also experience Brembo
problems that Acura will fix. The factory had ours for a day putting over
150 miles on it. They replaced the tires and wheels at no cost. We rotated
the tires last week and have been experiencing directional instability.
We've talked with our factory guy again and we're awaiting their response.
At first chance we're going to replace the tires with something better. The
'05 TL's have a different tire on them.
It has nothing to do with the emergency brake!

I just ordered a second new set of Michelin Pilot Sport All-Seasons for my '97
Mercedes E420. First set (same tire) lasted two years and 30,000+ miles, so a
new set is on the way. Expensive, but well worth the performance year-round.

Randy


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