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Old 21 Sep 2004, 09:20 pm
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Default Mediocre drivablity of 01-03 CL/TL 5-spd auto

Reliability aside, does anyone else get the feeling that drivablity of the
5-spd is not so great when left in D5? The complaint that I have and have
heard from other owners is that downshift is sluggish and time consuming.
Hit the accelerator at around 50 mph to merge onto a highway torque
converter unlocks, makes a commanding sounding roar, downshifts to 4th,
decides that 4th is still to high, downshifts to 3rd, and then accelerates
wonderfully after what seems like an eternity. Using D4 and letting it
downshift only once, or using the manual-ish mode is ok if you know you are
going to need quick power.

The new Daimler 7-spd will be able to downshift multiple gears all at once,
but current Chrysler 5-spd's aren't as bad as the Acura anyway. Actually,
the Honda Accord for which the 3.2 CLS/TLS is based on seems a bit better...
go figure.

5 speed tranny's can certainly get a bit better gas mileage, but there has
to be a better alternative than manual mode.


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Old 21 Sep 2004, 11:06 pm
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Default Re: Mediocre drivablity of 01-03 CL/TL 5-spd auto

On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:20:04 -0400, "ldf62" <ldf62@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Reliability aside, does anyone else get the feeling that drivablity of the
>5-spd is not so great when left in D5? The complaint that I have and have
>heard from other owners is that downshift is sluggish and time consuming.
>Hit the accelerator at around 50 mph to merge onto a highway torque
>converter unlocks, makes a commanding sounding roar, downshifts to 4th,
>decides that 4th is still to high, downshifts to 3rd, and then accelerates
>wonderfully after what seems like an eternity. Using D4 and letting it
>downshift only once, or using the manual-ish mode is ok if you know you are
>going to need quick power.


I had this behavior on my 1999 CL 3.0.

It is a malfunction.

Have your tranny flushed, and it may work better for a month or so.

I trolled the newsgroup frequently for the three years I owned that
car, and never got an "amen" that others had the problem, though I
always suspected it was VERY widespread.

It was a four-speed auto, btw, on that old model. Nice (not) to see
the problem still exists on the five-speed.

The dealer was never any help at all, they simply flushed the tranny
as a matter of course at the 30,000 service, and voila! Suddenly the
car was drivable! For about three months.

I'm now driving a 2004 Accord 4cyl, and the (5 speed) auto has been
quite smooth and responsive so far, but I'm getting hints that it
still has the same problem you describe, which I presume is a
malfunctioning torque converter.

Honda just does not seem to grok the automatic transmission.

J.


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