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Old 21 Sep 2004, 03:39 pm
Alex Vilner
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Default Acura MDX brake vibration

I have gone through several Acura cars (99 TL, 01 TL, 03 TL-S), now I
have the 04 MDX. In all of them I experience the same exact problem --
around the 10-15k mark, at highway speeds I start getting steering
wheel vibration when braking.

My driving style is aggressive, but I do not use brakes much -- I let
off gas in advance and do not tailgate. I pretty much use the breaks
in traffic, in emergencies, and in normal city driving (nothing crazy
there, I do not rush off at the green light and slam on the brakes at
the next red).

I have gone through about 15 cars by now, and Acura is THE ONLY one
that has had this problem.

A manager of the Acura Service suggested that it is my driving style
-- I am saying "no", 'cause it has not changed.

I do not do anything other people do not do....

Has anybody else experienced this? Is this the new metallic pads that
are causing this? Maybe other vehicles have the same issue -- I am
just not aware of them???

TIA!
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Old 21 Sep 2004, 07:33 pm
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Default Re: Acura MDX brake vibration

Yeah!

My 01 CLS 5-speed auto had it's rotors cut at 6,000 miles (pads
also). Then at 25,000 miles the rotors were replaced due to the same
warping problem, causing pulsation while braking. The pads were also
replaced again because they were worn. Acura has a service bulletin
for all this brake work. Although the dealer tried to get me to pay
for the rotors and second set of pads. After discussing the matter
they finally relented and fixed it under warranty. Possibly because I
let them know I knew about the bulletins and the ridiculously low
mileage when the problems occurred.

I drive my cars a little hard but certainly not very hard. My '91
Accord 4-speed had over 60,000 miles when I replaced the pad and
didn't have to cut the rotors. My previous cars were similar unless
crappy parts were used. For example my '79 Pontiac Sunbird v6 4-speed
needed brakes every 35,000-40,000 and the rotors needed cutting. When
the car had 120,000 on it I replaced the rotors and put a good quality
set of pads on it. 60,000 later at 180,000 the pads were replaced (no
rotor cutting). I sold the car with 224,000 with the same pads and
rotors still not cut. The car was used for a couple more years,
daily, without any brake work. Although I don't know what the
mileage was before the car was sold or brought to the junk yard.



On 21 Sep 2004 13:39:39 -0700, alex@sinoma.com (Alex Vilner) wrote:

>I have gone through several Acura cars (99 TL, 01 TL, 03 TL-S), now I
>have the 04 MDX. In all of them I experience the same exact problem --
>around the 10-15k mark, at highway speeds I start getting steering
>wheel vibration when braking.
>
>My driving style is aggressive, but I do not use brakes much -- I let
>off gas in advance and do not tailgate. I pretty much use the breaks
>in traffic, in emergencies, and in normal city driving (nothing crazy
>there, I do not rush off at the green light and slam on the brakes at
>the next red).
>
>I have gone through about 15 cars by now, and Acura is THE ONLY one
>that has had this problem.
>
>A manager of the Acura Service suggested that it is my driving style
>-- I am saying "no", 'cause it has not changed.
>
>I do not do anything other people do not do....
>
>Has anybody else experienced this? Is this the new metallic pads that
>are causing this? Maybe other vehicles have the same issue -- I am
>just not aware of them???
>
>TIA!


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Old 21 Sep 2004, 11:56 pm
jjjsan
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Default Re: Acura MDX brake vibration

Been speeding down a moutain side through the river?
The quick chilling effect on the rotor could be the causing the warp.
Have you turned the rotor. I had Accord rotor warp, removed and turned,
ran ok. The brake guys says Winter months are bad on rotor, the quick
cooling when going through water puddles. I hear it quite common for
rotors to warp. Might try another brand or rotors.

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Old 22 Sep 2004, 08:49 am
Alex Vilner
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Default Re: Acura MDX brake vibration

None of that )
My driving primarily is highway (~30k per year). No running through
puddles (unless they are unavoidable), and generally being easy on the
brakes (hard on the gas, though ))


"jjjsan" <jjjsan_spam@nospamz.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<a9ec18fd1f137d7ad0ea06f8a6f86465@localhost.t alkaboutautos.com>...
> Been speeding down a moutain side through the river?
> The quick chilling effect on the rotor could be the causing the warp.
> Have you turned the rotor. I had Accord rotor warp, removed and turned,
> ran ok. The brake guys says Winter months are bad on rotor, the quick
> cooling when going through water puddles. I hear it quite common for
> rotors to warp. Might try another brand or rotors.

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Old 22 Sep 2004, 08:50 am
Alex Vilner
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Default Re: Acura MDX brake vibration

Thank you for your reply!

Where can I get information about these service bulletins you are referring to?

Thanks again!


NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<s1b1l0pt6ko75vk0smdq9qtkuohap8e4eh@4ax.com>. ..
> Yeah!
>
> My 01 CLS 5-speed auto had it's rotors cut at 6,000 miles (pads
> also). Then at 25,000 miles the rotors were replaced due to the same
> warping problem, causing pulsation while braking. The pads were also
> replaced again because they were worn. Acura has a service bulletin
> for all this brake work. Although the dealer tried to get me to pay
> for the rotors and second set of pads. After discussing the matter
> they finally relented and fixed it under warranty. Possibly because I
> let them know I knew about the bulletins and the ridiculously low
> mileage when the problems occurred.
>
> I drive my cars a little hard but certainly not very hard. My '91
> Accord 4-speed had over 60,000 miles when I replaced the pad and
> didn't have to cut the rotors. My previous cars were similar unless
> crappy parts were used. For example my '79 Pontiac Sunbird v6 4-speed
> needed brakes every 35,000-40,000 and the rotors needed cutting. When
> the car had 120,000 on it I replaced the rotors and put a good quality
> set of pads on it. 60,000 later at 180,000 the pads were replaced (no
> rotor cutting). I sold the car with 224,000 with the same pads and
> rotors still not cut. The car was used for a couple more years,
> daily, without any brake work. Although I don't know what the
> mileage was before the car was sold or brought to the junk yard.
>
>
>
> On 21 Sep 2004 13:39:39 -0700, alex@sinoma.com (Alex Vilner) wrote:
>
> >I have gone through several Acura cars (99 TL, 01 TL, 03 TL-S), now I
> >have the 04 MDX. In all of them I experience the same exact problem --
> >around the 10-15k mark, at highway speeds I start getting steering
> >wheel vibration when braking.
> >
> >My driving style is aggressive, but I do not use brakes much -- I let
> >off gas in advance and do not tailgate. I pretty much use the breaks
> >in traffic, in emergencies, and in normal city driving (nothing crazy
> >there, I do not rush off at the green light and slam on the brakes at
> >the next red).
> >
> >I have gone through about 15 cars by now, and Acura is THE ONLY one
> >that has had this problem.
> >
> >A manager of the Acura Service suggested that it is my driving style
> >-- I am saying "no", 'cause it has not changed.
> >
> >I do not do anything other people do not do....
> >
> >Has anybody else experienced this? Is this the new metallic pads that
> >are causing this? Maybe other vehicles have the same issue -- I am
> >just not aware of them???
> >
> >TIA!

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Old 22 Sep 2004, 10:32 am
John
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Default Re: Acura MDX brake vibration

"Alex Vilner" <alex@sinoma.com> wrote in message
news:22e9f6e0.0409211239.11fde998@posting.google.c om...
> I have gone through several Acura cars (99 TL, 01 TL, 03 TL-S), now I
> have the 04 MDX. In all of them I experience the same exact problem --
> around the 10-15k mark, at highway speeds I start getting steering
> wheel vibration when braking.
>
> My driving style is aggressive, but I do not use brakes much -- I let
> off gas in advance and do not tailgate. I pretty much use the breaks
> in traffic, in emergencies, and in normal city driving (nothing crazy
> there, I do not rush off at the green light and slam on the brakes at
> the next red).
>
> I have gone through about 15 cars by now, and Acura is THE ONLY one
> that has had this problem.
>
> A manager of the Acura Service suggested that it is my driving style
> -- I am saying "no", 'cause it has not changed.
>
> I do not do anything other people do not do....
>
> Has anybody else experienced this? Is this the new metallic pads that
> are causing this? Maybe other vehicles have the same issue -- I am
> just not aware of them???
>
> TIA!


Acura's are notorious for having crap rotors. The only way to eliminate the
problem is to drop the ~$275 and get good aftermarket rotors.


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Old 22 Sep 2004, 07:39 pm
NomoreRGS
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Default Re: Acura MDX brake vibration


Here are some sites that I have book marked for service bulletins,
recalls, and lots of info in the forums. Hope they help.

Service bulletins and recall info at these sites:
http://www.alldata.com/TSB/
http://www.mycarstats.com/
http://www.nhtsa.gov/

Very useful info at these sites if your interested and have the time!
http://www.acura-tl.com/forums/index.php
http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/in...2d9904cbbd361c
http://www.acuraworld.com/


On 22 Sep 2004 06:50:06 -0700, alex@sinoma.com (Alex Vilner) wrote:

>Thank you for your reply!
>
>Where can I get information about these service bulletins you are referring to?
>
>Thanks again!
>
>
>NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<s1b1l0pt6ko75vk0smdq9qtkuohap8e4eh@4ax.com>. ..
>> Yeah!
>>
>> My 01 CLS 5-speed auto had it's rotors cut at 6,000 miles (pads
>> also). Then at 25,000 miles the rotors were replaced due to the same
>> warping problem, causing pulsation while braking. The pads were also
>> replaced again because they were worn. Acura has a service bulletin
>> for all this brake work. Although the dealer tried to get me to pay
>> for the rotors and second set of pads. After discussing the matter
>> they finally relented and fixed it under warranty. Possibly because I
>> let them know I knew about the bulletins and the ridiculously low
>> mileage when the problems occurred.
>>
>> I drive my cars a little hard but certainly not very hard. My '91
>> Accord 4-speed had over 60,000 miles when I replaced the pad and
>> didn't have to cut the rotors. My previous cars were similar unless
>> crappy parts were used. For example my '79 Pontiac Sunbird v6 4-speed
>> needed brakes every 35,000-40,000 and the rotors needed cutting. When
>> the car had 120,000 on it I replaced the rotors and put a good quality
>> set of pads on it. 60,000 later at 180,000 the pads were replaced (no
>> rotor cutting). I sold the car with 224,000 with the same pads and
>> rotors still not cut. The car was used for a couple more years,
>> daily, without any brake work. Although I don't know what the
>> mileage was before the car was sold or brought to the junk yard.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 21 Sep 2004 13:39:39 -0700, alex@sinoma.com (Alex Vilner) wrote:
>>
>> >I have gone through several Acura cars (99 TL, 01 TL, 03 TL-S), now I
>> >have the 04 MDX. In all of them I experience the same exact problem --
>> >around the 10-15k mark, at highway speeds I start getting steering
>> >wheel vibration when braking.
>> >
>> >My driving style is aggressive, but I do not use brakes much -- I let
>> >off gas in advance and do not tailgate. I pretty much use the breaks
>> >in traffic, in emergencies, and in normal city driving (nothing crazy
>> >there, I do not rush off at the green light and slam on the brakes at
>> >the next red).
>> >
>> >I have gone through about 15 cars by now, and Acura is THE ONLY one
>> >that has had this problem.
>> >
>> >A manager of the Acura Service suggested that it is my driving style
>> >-- I am saying "no", 'cause it has not changed.
>> >
>> >I do not do anything other people do not do....
>> >
>> >Has anybody else experienced this? Is this the new metallic pads that
>> >are causing this? Maybe other vehicles have the same issue -- I am
>> >just not aware of them???
>> >
>> >TIA!


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Old 24 Sep 2004, 07:39 pm
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Default Re: Acura MDX brake vibration

'01 CL-S - had them (fronts) cut twice and replaced once under warranty.
Now running Brembos from Tire Rack - after 20K miles on them so far so good.

"John" <jmillerlaw@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:RVg4d.620288$Gx4.538470@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> "Alex Vilner" <alex@sinoma.com> wrote in message
> news:22e9f6e0.0409211239.11fde998@posting.google.c om...
>> I have gone through several Acura cars (99 TL, 01 TL, 03 TL-S), now I
>> have the 04 MDX. In all of them I experience the same exact problem --
>> around the 10-15k mark, at highway speeds I start getting steering
>> wheel vibration when braking.
>>
>> My driving style is aggressive, but I do not use brakes much -- I let
>> off gas in advance and do not tailgate. I pretty much use the breaks
>> in traffic, in emergencies, and in normal city driving (nothing crazy
>> there, I do not rush off at the green light and slam on the brakes at
>> the next red).
>>
>> I have gone through about 15 cars by now, and Acura is THE ONLY one
>> that has had this problem.
>>
>> A manager of the Acura Service suggested that it is my driving style
>> -- I am saying "no", 'cause it has not changed.
>>
>> I do not do anything other people do not do....
>>
>> Has anybody else experienced this? Is this the new metallic pads that
>> are causing this? Maybe other vehicles have the same issue -- I am
>> just not aware of them???
>>
>> TIA!

>
> Acura's are notorious for having crap rotors. The only way to eliminate
> the
> problem is to drop the ~$275 and get good aftermarket rotors.
>
>



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