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Old 14 Sep 2004, 08:53 pm
Eddie G
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Default 04 TL and oil changes

I am at 10,500 and still have 30% oil life left after having only 1 oil
change so far. I'm tempted to NOT trust the computer and get my oil changed
more frequently. Any thoughts??

Thanks!

Eddie G


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Old 15 Sep 2004, 02:48 am
Bill Freeman
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Default Re: 04 TL and oil changes

Use full synthetic only (synthetics don't produce gum or varnish,
flow instantly during cold starts and don't break down in heat or cold).
Change at warranty recommended intervals. After the warranty runs out,
change at one year or 6,000 miles, whichever comes first.


Eddie G <mickeddie at comcast.net> wrote in message
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> I am at 10,500 and still have 30% oil life left after having only 1 oil
> change so far. I'm tempted to NOT trust the computer and get my oil

changed
> more frequently. Any thoughts??
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eddie G
>
>







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Old 15 Sep 2004, 10:08 am
Bryan Oakley
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Default Re: 04 TL and oil changes

Eddie G wrote:

> I am at 10,500 and still have 30% oil life left after having only 1 oil
> change so far. I'm tempted to NOT trust the computer and get my oil changed
> more frequently. Any thoughts??


Why would you not trust the computer? It uses rules and information
simply not relevant or available back when the "every 3000 miles"
recommendation was made ages ago.

The only reason I can think of to ignore the oil life indicator is if a)
you think it's broken (unlikely but not impossible), or b) you know more
about the state of your engine oil than the computer (again, highly
unlikely but not impossible).

OTOH, if changing the oil gives you peace of mind, do it. Just because
the car is recommending less frequent oil changes doesn't mean you have
to follow the recommendations.

I was at about 30% at 9000 miles, and after a 1500 mile road trip I
dropped to less than 15% with a "service B" reminder. If I put it off
for a few weeks (since the computer says "soon" rather than "now") I may
actually make it a full year before my second oil change. I doubt I'll
wait that long though.

For anyone who is interested in mileage... my gas mileage over the
entire trip was 29mpg. I averaged 29 at highway speeds (75ish) with the
windows down; when I rolled the windows up and switched on the AC it
crept up to 30 over 700 total highway miles. The around-town driving at
my destination dropped the average for the whole trip down to 29 even
after 700 highway miles on the return leg. Still, not too shabby for a
high-power sedan.


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Old 17 Sep 2004, 06:58 am
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Just had my first change yesterday at 15%, Service A soon, 6100 miles a
little over 6 months ownership. Dealer recommended that I come back at
11,000 miles for the next A service, wrote it on service " menu " he gave
me, 11k Dec. Must be bad at math because at 1k per month I won't need
anything until March give or take.

Now what I found really interesting is that the menu he gave me called for
first A service at 1000 miles, then every 3,750 miles or 3 months. Although
the " menu " specifies some variance on models such as MDX additional cost
of a component of service, or 91-95 Legends replace AC filter extra 95.95
additional, there is no variance between model for basic service limits.

I would say the old conflict, service versus sales. Sales, car washes
itself, gets 300 mpg, and will change your first borne. Service, if you have
us come over and change your engine every morning this car will last you 100
years 4 million miles and you will NEVER have a problem. And we will vacuum
your car out every other service too, no kidding, included FREE with the
$52,000 annual service plan, parts and labor additional of course.

I would say a reasonable amount of common sense applies. I am comfortable
going to 6k ( twice my previous normal ) between changes. This is based on
my easy driving lifestyle at current, little highway, little local, no
overly pounding road or air conditions. If I forget use the computer simply
to keep it on my mind, I'll make determination using 6k as guide and noting
oil level and discoloration etc. I trade every two years generally so do
almost no maintenance except oil changes ( prev every 3 as noted ) . That is
part of my factor to rationalize my cost of always driving new.

You know getting this " menu " ( service schedule chart ) was funny too me.
Service guy probably didn't like my chuckle but what can I say. First does
calling it a menu impress some people? Do they feel like they are in an
elegant French restuarant instead of a greasy repair bays area? Next does
anyone believe that parts and labor for and A service is really $44.00 and
that they are getting some sort of REAL deal at $27.95?

Final question does anyone REALLY pay the DISCOUNTED price of $109 ( but you
get $139. of parts and labor )
A SERVICE "C" for only $399 ( lucky dog you $445 of parts and labor )

Now B Service consists of the A service ( also know as oil change ) AND (
hold onto your hat ) CHECKING steering, brakes, tie rods, cooling, etc etc
etc etc. CHECKING, not fixing, replacing, maintaining anything like that
which would all fall under warranty anyway for most part. The only actual
physical thing they are goin to do is ROTATE your tires. Thanks I can get
that for $8 down the street. No expresso but I could probably buy my own for
the savings.

Yesterdays deal was well worth my traveling to my dealer. With 7.5 % tax
$26.83 for oil change and complimentary car wash and cleaning. That's
cheaper than Jiffy Lube even if did take 1.5 hours. This was off their
internet special coupon price. Regular price is $ 27.95 before tax. At that
rate I would have no problem changing oil every 3k frankly except for the
diatnce to dealer and the wait for service.

George in NY




"Eddie G" <mickeddie at comcast.net> wrote in message
news:OZSdnSaPwNo7PdrcRVn-vA@comcast.com...
>I am at 10,500 and still have 30% oil life left after having only 1 oil
>change so far. I'm tempted to NOT trust the computer and get my oil
>changed more frequently. Any thoughts??
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eddie G
>



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Old 19 Sep 2004, 05:24 pm
Frogmouth
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Default Re: 04 TL and oil changes

Ya want fries with that?

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:58:25 GMT, "Georgeny"
<georgeny@bellatlanticantispam.net> wrote:
<snip>
>You know getting this " menu " ( service schedule chart ) was funny too me.
>Service guy probably didn't like my chuckle but what can I say. First does
>calling it a menu impress some people? Do they feel like they are in an
>elegant French restuarant instead of a greasy repair bays area? Next does
>anyone believe that parts and labor for and A service is really $44.00 and
>that they are getting some sort of REAL deal at $27.95?


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