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I think my 1997 NSX may need a new clutch soon. It has 31,000 miles. Any one out there have advice?

I found prices on the Internet that are discounted about 25% from a Florida Acura dealer.

What have others paid for a clutch replacement?

I heard that NSX flywheels cannot be resurfaced; they must be replaced.

Here's the prices I found:

Part Number Image Description Year Model List Price Our Price Click to Buy
21000-PR8-020 CASE, CLUTCH 1997 NSX 1090.00 872.00
21350-PR7-010 COVER, CLUTCH CASE 1997 NSX 66.40 53.12
22500-PR9-010 CLUTCH ASSY., LOW 1997 NSX 570.72 456.58
22511-PR9-013 GUIDE, LOW CLUTCH 1997 NSX 201.03 160.82
22520-PR9-000 PISTON, LOW CLUTCH 1997 NSX 96.18 76.94
22537-PR9-003 SPRING, CLUTCH DISK 1997 NSX 16.57 13.26
22537-PX4-003 SPRING, CLUTCH DISK 1997 NSX 13.15 10.52
22540-PR9-000 PISTON, THIRD CLUTCH 1997 NSX 110.02 88.02
22543-PX4-003 PLATE, LOW CLUTCH 1997 NSX 14.95 11.96
22544-PR9-013 DISK, SECOND CLUTCH 1997 NSX 26.33 21.06
22545-PX4-003 DISK, SECOND CLUTCH 1997 NSX 24.88 19.90
22545-PX4-A01 DISK, SECOND CLUTCH 1997 NSX 18.37 14.70
22545-PX4-A03 DISK, SECOND CLUTCH 1997 NSX 18.37 14.70
22570-PR9-000 PISTON, CLUTCH 1997 NSX 96.18 76.94 Qty:
22600-PR9-000 CLUTCH ASSY., SECOND 1997 NSX 570.72 456.58
22611-PR9-003 GUIDE, SECOND CLUTCH 1997 NSX 201.03 160.82
22650-PR9-010 CLUTCH ASSY., THIRD 1997 NSX 570.72 456.58
22651-PR9-013 GUIDE, THIRD CLUTCH 1997 NSX 201.03 160.82
22655-PR9-003 GUIDE, CLUTCH 1997 NSX 260.83 208.66 Qty:
22660-PR9-000 CLUTCH ASSY. 1997 NSX 570.72 456.58 Qty:
22670-PR9-010 CLUTCH ASSY. 1997 NSX 570.72 456.58 Qty:
22671-PR9-013 GUIDE, CLUTCH 1997 NSX 260.83 208.66 Qty:
22674-PR9-003 DISK, CLUTCH 1997 NSX 23.80 19.04 Qty:
22743-PG4-000 PIPE, THIRD CLUTCH 1997 NSX 12.05 9.64
22743-PR9-000 PIPE, THIRD CLUTCH 1997 NSX 9.17 7.34 Qty:
22744-PG4-000 PIPE, TOP CLUTCH 1997 NSX 10.52 8.42 Qty:
22745-PR9-000 PIPE, CLUTCH 1997 NSX 10.62 8.50 Qty:
22820-PR8-000 FORK, CLUTCH RELEASE 1997 NSX 121.10 96.88
23423-PR9-003 CLUTCH, ONE-WAY 1997 NSX 124.47 99.58
23426-PR9-000 HUB, CLUTCH 1997 NSX 123.75 99.00 Qty:
31204-PR7-J01 CLUTCH, OVERRUNNING 1997 NSX 357.02 285.62 Qty:
36760-SM4-003 SWITCH ASSY., CLUTCH 1997 NSX 24.02 19.22
38900-PR7-A03 CLUTCH SET 1997 NSX 247.53 198.02 Qty:
38900-PR7-A04 CLUTCH SET 1997 NSX 247.53 198.02 Qty:
41250-PR8-305 CLUTCH SET, LSD 1997 NSX 1594.10 1275.28
41251-PR8-000 PLATE, CLUTCH 1997 NSX 13.12 10.50 Qty:
41252-PR8-000 DISK, CLUTCH 1997 NSX 23.27 18.62 Qty:
46907-SL0-A00 SPRING, CLUTCH PEDAL 1997 NSX 7.67 6.14
46907-SL0-A01 SPRING, CLUTCH PEDAL 1997 NSX 7.67 6.14
46908-SL0-000 GROMMET, CLUTCH PIPE 1997 NSX 6.80 5.44
46910-SL0-A00 PEDAL, CLUTCH 1997 NSX 91.23 72.98 Qty:
46910-SL0-A01 PEDAL, CLUTCH 1997 NSX 91.48 73.18 Qty:
46912-S84-A00 PIN, CLUTCH PEDAL 1997 NSX 2.45 1.96 Qty:
46912-SD4-000 PIN, CLUTCH PEDAL 1997 NSX 4.07 3.26 Qty:
46920-SL0-A01 M/CYL ASSY., CLUTCH 1997 NSX 132.33 105.86
46936-SL0-A00 COLLAR, CLUTCH PEDAL 1997 NSX 5.08 4.06
46939-SL0-003 JOINT, CLUTCH PIPE 1997 NSX 26.43 21.14
46960-SL0-A03 PIPE A, CLUTCH 1997 NSX 9.00 7.20 Qty:
46961-SL0-A01 PIPE B, CLUTCH 1997 NSX 50.52 40.42 Qty:
46962-SL0-030 PIPE C, CLUTCH 1997 NSX 30.22 24.18 Qty:
46964-SL0-000 PIPE D, CLUTCH 1997 NSX 12.65 10.12 Qty:
46968-SL0-000 BRACKET, CLUTCH HOSE 1997 NSX 12.90 10.32
46970-SL0-A02 HOSE, CLUTCH 1997 NSX 64.05 51.24 Qty:
46971-SL0-A01 TUBE, CLUTCH FLUID 1997 NSX 8.15 6.52 Qty:
46972-SD4-003 TANK, CLUTCH FLUID 1997 NSX 10.12 8.10
46977-SL0-J01 CLIP, CLUTCH & BRAKE 1997 NSX 7.12 5.70
46990-SL0-A00 BRKT, CLUTCH PEDAL 1997 NSX 69.97 55.98
46993-SL0-003 DAMPER ASSY., CLUTCH 1997 NSX 101.17 80.94
22100-PR7-006 FLYWHEEL 1997 NSX 1999.97 1599.98

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

- Russ in SB

"rll" <rlombard@westmont.edu> wrote in
news:fwC1d.270822$sh.30972@fed1read06:

> I think my 1997 NSX may need a new clutch soon. It has 31,000 miles.
> Any one out there have advice?
>
> I found prices on the Internet that are discounted about 25% from a
> Florida Acura dealer.
>
> What have others paid for a clutch replacement?
>
> I heard that NSX flywheels cannot be resurfaced; they must be
> replaced.
>

Does the flywheel NEED to be resurfaced?



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

I am not even sure the clutch needs replacing, so I don't know about the
flywheel. It's a $1700 item, so I hope it doesn't.

I talked with the local Acura dealer nearest Santa Barbara and they reduced
the parts cost by 15%, so the total cost with a flywheel replacement is
about $3200 and only a mere $1400 or so for the clutch replacement only. It
almost seems cheap.

I tried another couple of tests to assess the clutch and I couldn't get it
to slip at all. One was to put the emergency brake on and with the
transmission in first or second, let the clutch out. The clutch didn't seem
to slip at all, but the car started to move, so it overpowered the emergency
brake in both gears. I take that as a good sign.

Another test suggested was to depress the clutch while in motion and then
re-engage the clutch while revving the engine. Again no sign of slippage at
all. I also let the rpm go to idle and then quickly released the clutch and
again no slipping noted.

I am not sure what other tests there are, but would be interested in other
possible tests.

Russ in SB


"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns9564CC6DEF754jyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21.. .
> "rll" <rlombard@westmont.edu> wrote in
> news:fwC1d.270822$sh.30972@fed1read06:
>
> > I think my 1997 NSX may need a new clutch soon. It has 31,000 miles.
> > Any one out there have advice?
> >
> > I found prices on the Internet that are discounted about 25% from a
> > Florida Acura dealer.
> >
> > What have others paid for a clutch replacement?
> >
> > I heard that NSX flywheels cannot be resurfaced; they must be
> > replaced.
> >
>
> Does the flywheel NEED to be resurfaced?
>
>
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik-at-kua.net

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:03:16 -0700, "RLL" <rlombardo@cox.net> wrote:

>I talked with the local Acura dealer nearest Santa Barbara and they reduced
>the parts cost by 15%, so the total cost with a flywheel replacement is
>about $3200 and only a mere $1400 or so for the clutch replacement only. It
>almost seems cheap.

That's about right for a stock clutch replacement.

Or, for about $2,000 plus ~$800 labor, you can put in a Comptech
PowerGrip clutch package, that includes flywheel & bolts, cover, plate
and release bearing. It's a worthwhile upgrade.
--
Dan Drake

But who do you truest to do it? At least the Acura dealer has one trained
technician with specific knowledge of NSXs. I would be reluctant to trust
my car to a regular garage.

- Russ


"Dan Drake" <ddrake@comcast.notthis.net> wrote in message
news:7n0gk0p5heqbf61v97mnpfhuio6p42iudr@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:03:16 -0700, "RLL" <rlombardo@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>I talked with the local Acura dealer nearest Santa Barbara and they
>>reduced
>>the parts cost by 15%, so the total cost with a flywheel replacement is
>>about $3200 and only a mere $1400 or so for the clutch replacement only.
>>It
>>almost seems cheap.
>
> That's about right for a stock clutch replacement.
>
> Or, for about $2,000 plus ~$800 labor, you can put in a Comptech
> PowerGrip clutch package, that includes flywheel & bolts, cover, plate
> and release bearing. It's a worthwhile upgrade.
> --
> Dan Drake

I've never seen an NSX flywheel.... but if the problem is the typical honda
stepped flywheel... then it CAN be resurfaced... you just have to take it to
someone who has the right tools.

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 06:24:20 -0700, "rll" <rlombard@westmont.edu>
wrote:

>But who do you truest to do it? At least the Acura dealer has one trained
>technician with specific knowledge of NSXs. I would be reluctant to trust
>my car to a regular garage.

An Acura dealer did mine. That was their price. And in spite of what
they tell you, don't assume that every Acura dealer actually has at
least one competent trained NSX specialist. Each dealer may make that
claim, but my experience leads me to question their definition of the
phrase 'trained technician.'

I have no problem letting a regular garage, that I know and trust, do
this kind of work.
--
Dan Drake

Unfortunately, in 1997 Acura changed from a single flywheel to a dual mass
flywheel. It is actually two flywheels in one which raises the inertial
mass on both the engine and transmission. The inner and outer flywheels are
connected by torsion springs. It dampens changes in the engine speed before
they are transmitted to the transmission.

Because there are torsion springs between the flywheels, none are used in
the clutch disc which lessens the inertia mass on the mainshaft. This
reduction of the rotating reduces the load on the synchro rings. allowing
the transmission to shift smoother.

That was from the 1997 NSX service manual. That's why it can't be
resurfaced.

With respect to the NSX service technician at Gold Coast Acura, his name is
Norman and has worked on my NSX previously. I talked with him and he is
knowledgeable on NSXs. He changed another NSX clutch just recently.

- Russ in SB



"Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:10khf67bnp99o6a@corp.supernews.com...
> I've never seen an NSX flywheel.... but if the problem is the typical
> honda stepped flywheel... then it CAN be resurfaced... you just have to
> take it to someone who has the right tools.
>
>
>

I'll buy that. Sounds like a pretty neat setup. So it is only the Six
Speed cars that have this?

"rll" <rlombard@westmont.edu> wrote in message
news:uID2d.295292$sh.213425@fed1read06...
> Unfortunately, in 1997 Acura changed from a single flywheel to a dual mass
> flywheel. It is actually two flywheels in one which raises the inertial
> mass on both the engine and transmission. The inner and outer flywheels
> are connected by torsion springs. It dampens changes in the engine speed
> before they are transmitted to the transmission.
>

I only have the service manual for my '97, so I don't know whether newer
NSXs have the same setup.

- Russ


"Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:10kmogrf3i31805@corp.supernews.com...
> I'll buy that. Sounds like a pretty neat setup. So it is only the Six
> Speed cars that have this?
>
> "rll" <rlombard@westmont.edu> wrote in message
> news:uID2d.295292$sh.213425@fed1read06...
>> Unfortunately, in 1997 Acura changed from a single flywheel to a dual
>> mass flywheel. It is actually two flywheels in one which raises the
>> inertial mass on both the engine and transmission. The inner and outer
>> flywheels are connected by torsion springs. It dampens changes in the
>> engine speed before they are transmitted to the transmission.
>>
>
>