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Old 31 Aug 2004, 01:51 am
Frankie
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Default Key issues

1998 Integra; we're not the first owners. Car cane with exactly one key -
and no remote. Since then the wife went to get extra keys made at the local
hardware store. They made the keys, but pointed her to a sign in the shop
that says (essentially) they're not responsible is your Acura key copies get
stuck in the ignition. Apparently they've seen a number of Acura key copies
get stuck to the point of calling a tow truck and taking the steering column
apart to get the key out.

My copy works OK but it's more touchy extracting from the ignition - I have
to make a series of deliberate moves (turn CCW, push in, turn a bit more,
pull out, turn a bit more, remove key) to get it out - as opposed to the
"factory original" key.
One more thing - when we bought the car, we didn't get a trunk key - we
were told to just use the trunk release lever by the driver's seat. But my
copy key works for the trunk while the original does not.

A cursory examination of the two keys (original and copy) indicates the
original is thinner than the copy - otherwise I can't see a difference.

Anyone here have any insight into this mystery?
An any idea why Acura has done this?


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Old 31 Aug 2004, 07:41 am
E. Meyer
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Default Re: Key issues

On 8/31/04 1:51 AM, in article
ZdVYc.6349$JT3.6063@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.n et, "Frankie"
<nospam@earthlink.net> wrote:

> 1998 Integra; we're not the first owners. Car cane with exactly one key -
> and no remote. Since then the wife went to get extra keys made at the local
> hardware store. They made the keys, but pointed her to a sign in the shop
> that says (essentially) they're not responsible is your Acura key copies get
> stuck in the ignition. Apparently they've seen a number of Acura key copies
> get stuck to the point of calling a tow truck and taking the steering column
> apart to get the key out.
>
> My copy works OK but it's more touchy extracting from the ignition - I have
> to make a series of deliberate moves (turn CCW, push in, turn a bit more,
> pull out, turn a bit more, remove key) to get it out - as opposed to the
> "factory original" key.
> One more thing - when we bought the car, we didn't get a trunk key - we
> were told to just use the trunk release lever by the driver's seat. But my
> copy key works for the trunk while the original does not.
>
> A cursory examination of the two keys (original and copy) indicates the
> original is thinner than the copy - otherwise I can't see a difference.
>
> Anyone here have any insight into this mystery?
> An any idea why Acura has done this?
>
>

Originally, there would have been a master key (2 copies) and a valet key.
The master will work the doors, ignition, trunk and glove box. The valet
key should only work in the doors and ignition, not the trunk or glove box.
If your original key has either a round or grey top, it is the valet key.
The masters are black and shaped sort-of like a "yield" sign.

I have not seen any warnings about sticking keys in Acuras. We have not
experienced any problems with copies on either the Integra or the TL (copies
made at Home Depot). I think maybe your local hardware store has been using
the wrong blanks when they make Acura keys.

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Old 31 Aug 2004, 02:54 pm
Tim Wisner
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Default Re: Key issues

I had a copy of my key made at a hardware store, it didn't work. They tried
again, it didn't work. The dealer mad a key for me, it worked fine. Maybe the
generic key blanks aren't too good?

Enjoy,

Tim Wisner

www.wisner.us
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Old 01 Sep 2004, 09:07 am
Nick
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Default Re: Key issues

Keep in mind that the new keys >98 have a chip in them in order to
start the ignition. Without it the doors will open but you can't start
the car and will need to go and get a key made at the dealership.

Nick


On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:54:48 -0400, Tim Wisner <tlwisner@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

>I had a copy of my key made at a hardware store, it didn't work. They tried
>again, it didn't work. The dealer mad a key for me, it worked fine. Maybe the
>generic key blanks aren't too good?
>
>Enjoy,
>
>Tim Wisner
>
>www.wisner.us



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Old 02 Sep 2004, 06:12 am
Frankie
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Default Re: Key issues

We bought the car used and only got one key with it. That key has a black
top that's "U" shaped (flat across the top, round on bottom. It acts like a
valet key - but my copy works in the trunk and glove box. Apparently
whatever made the valet key a valet key didn't translate to the hardware
store's blank.


> Originally, there would have been a master key (2 copies) and a valet key.
> The master will work the doors, ignition, trunk and glove box. The valet
> key should only work in the doors and ignition, not the trunk or glove

box.
> If your original key has either a round or grey top, it is the valet key.
> The masters are black and shaped sort-of like a "yield" sign.
>
> I have not seen any warnings about sticking keys in Acuras. We have not
> experienced any problems with copies on either the Integra or the TL

(copies
> made at Home Depot). I think maybe your local hardware store has been

using
> the wrong blanks when they make Acura keys.
>



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Old 02 Sep 2004, 10:37 am
E. Meyer
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Default Re: Key issues

If you had a '95, I'd say you got my daughter's Integra - she only had the
valet key left by the time she traded it. If the key is black and flat
across the top it should be a master, but sometime between '95 and '00 they
started making the valet keys with the same shaped tops as the masters. Our
'95 valet key has (had) a round top. The '00 valet key is the same shape as
the master, but grey instead of black.

The difference between the master and valet key is in the blank. The
difference is subtle. I don't have them both handy right now to verify, but
IIRC there is one grove different on the valet key and the notches are the
same. It is possible to make a master from the valet key by simply copying
to a blank master, which is what they apparently did.

But - that's a good thing, since it sounds like you needed a new master
anyway.

On 9/2/04 6:12 AM, in article
oeDZc.1198$Vl5.633@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.ne t, "Frankie"
<nospam@earthlink.net> wrote:

> We bought the car used and only got one key with it. That key has a black
> top that's "U" shaped (flat across the top, round on bottom. It acts like a
> valet key - but my copy works in the trunk and glove box. Apparently
> whatever made the valet key a valet key didn't translate to the hardware
> store's blank.
>
>
>> Originally, there would have been a master key (2 copies) and a valet key.
>> The master will work the doors, ignition, trunk and glove box. The valet
>> key should only work in the doors and ignition, not the trunk or glove

> box.
>> If your original key has either a round or grey top, it is the valet key.
>> The masters are black and shaped sort-of like a "yield" sign.
>>
>> I have not seen any warnings about sticking keys in Acuras. We have not
>> experienced any problems with copies on either the Integra or the TL

> (copies
>> made at Home Depot). I think maybe your local hardware store has been

> using
>> the wrong blanks when they make Acura keys.
>>

>
>


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