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My contract paper does not mention the 3-day thing. I did call Acura main
office and was told that once I signed the contract I have to accept it.
Period.

N.

"Sid Schweiger" <sids1045@aol.comspamthis> wrote in message
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> >I believe you are mistaken on this. I live in CA. When I bought my Acura
they
> told me specifically the deal would be final when I signed -specifically
no 3
> days to change my mind.<
>
> Anyone can tell you anything, but that doesn't make it right. The papers
I
> signed when I bought my TL specifically mentioned the federal law which
gave me
> the right to revoke the deal within 3 business days. Whatever your dealer
told
> you, they were lying.

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 03:53:51 GMT, "nguyenn" <nghianguyen@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
> I went for a test drive for the car and somehow was pressured by
>him into signing a deposit of 1000 CAD. I heard from another dealer that
>Acura policy does not allow such behavior to customers, enforcing customers
>into buying something by trapping them into paying some deposit.

Ummm, OK. Good job.....
Enjoy,

Tim Wisner

www.wisner.us

There is no 'cooling off' period in Canada - it's an urban myth. Vehicle
lease contracts
are a ONE WAY STREET. The customer is responsible for being honest and not
making
any false declarations. However that doesn't mean the person you are
dealing with at the
dealership needs to be entirely truthful. I had a bad lease experience and
I proved that I was
lied to. The guy who lied to me at the dealership was later fired for
'lying to get what he wants".
However did that change the fact that I was stuck with the lease? Nope, and
absolutely nobody
cared either. It's far easier and cheaper for them to do nothing because
the customer cannot
do anything except throw more money away by suing.

When I purchased my 2003 Acura RSX-S, I was trading in the vehicle that I
leased above. The
Acura sales manager made some mistakes on the paperwork where the 'numbers'
favoured me
too much. I was sitting at the business managers desk, ready to sign the
lease and I didn't sign
because I asking how they could have given me such a great trade in deal.
Well, the business
manager takes another look at the paperwork and notices the error(s) and
tells me the deal cannot
be done with these number. Everything is reworked and I end up buying the
vehicle instead of leasing
and I am apologized to for the 'bait and switch'. I asked what would have
happened if I had signed
the lease papers and the business manager said they would not bought my
trade in then and I'd be
stuck with 2 cars. There is nothing in the lease or sales contract that
explicitly says they have to buy your
old vehicle. I could have really been screwed over if I hadn't taken the
time to read over the lease
several times, verify the numbers and ask the questions. The bottom line is
that some/most/all dealerships can
get their customers in trouble, through no fault of the customer sometimes
and the customer will be
the one left holding the bag. Auto manufacturers don't care how their
contracts are signed - they only
care that you signed it and that you make your payments.

Nguyen if you think you were victimized by someone at the dealership, seek
legal counsel. They are the ONLY
ones who are capable of helping you. Never think that the dealership or
manufacturer will do anything to
assist you in the matter. They only want (and got) your money. Don't try
to break out of your contract by yourself
because you will damage your credit rating. I'm sure next time you lease or
purchase a car from a dealership, you
will be alot more careful.

--


Rob

"nguyenn" <nghianguyen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uFoXc.1142$A1t.292@news04.bloor.is.net.cable. rogers.com...
> My contract paper does not mention the 3-day thing. I did call Acura main
> office and was told that once I signed the contract I have to accept it.
> Period.
>
> N.
>
> "Sid Schweiger" <sids1045@aol.comspamthis> wrote in message
> news:20040822113451.05710.00003586@mb-m14.aol.com...
>> >I believe you are mistaken on this. I live in CA. When I bought my
>> >Acura
> they
>> told me specifically the deal would be final when I signed -specifically
> no 3
>> days to change my mind.<
>>
>> Anyone can tell you anything, but that doesn't make it right. The papers
> I
>> signed when I bought my TL specifically mentioned the federal law which
> gave me
>> the right to revoke the deal within 3 business days. Whatever your
>> dealer
> told
>> you, they were lying.
>
>

When I put down a deposit on my RSX-S, I asked for it specifically to be
stated on
my receipt that the deposit was fully refundable. Of course they said "oh
it is, don't worry",
but I still asked for it to be written on there and signed. The deposits
are usually asked for
by the dealership to weed out tire kickers from potential buyers. Unless
they only have
one car left of the type you want, I'm not so sure that a deposit is really
necessary.

--


Rob

"Tim Wisner" <tlwisner@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 03:53:51 GMT, "nguyenn" <nghianguyen@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>> I went for a test drive for the car and somehow was pressured by
>>him into signing a deposit of 1000 CAD. I heard from another dealer that
>>Acura policy does not allow such behavior to customers, enforcing
>>customers
>>into buying something by trapping them into paying some deposit.
>
> Ummm, OK. Good job.....
> Enjoy,
>
> Tim Wisner
>
> www.wisner.us

If you let an automoile salesman force you into signing a contract I would
think you have other issues that need to be addressed.


-Dana
"nguyenn" <nghianguyen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uFoXc.1142$A1t.292@news04.bloor.is.net.cable. rogers.com...
> My contract paper does not mention the 3-day thing. I did call Acura main
> office and was told that once I signed the contract I have to accept it.
> Period.
>
> N.
>
> "Sid Schweiger" <sids1045@aol.comspamthis> wrote in message
> news:20040822113451.05710.00003586@mb-m14.aol.com...
> > >I believe you are mistaken on this. I live in CA. When I bought my
Acura
> they
> > told me specifically the deal would be final when I signed -specifically
> no 3
> > days to change my mind.<
> >
> > Anyone can tell you anything, but that doesn't make it right. The
papers
> I
> > signed when I bought my TL specifically mentioned the federal law which
> gave me
> > the right to revoke the deal within 3 business days. Whatever your
dealer
> told
> > you, they were lying.
>
>

Don't be absurd, the guy made a mistake and just wasn't prepared enough (at
all?) when
dealing with a pushy salesman. I don't see how that constitutes he has
probable
'other issues' unless you care to elaborate more.

--


Rob

"Dana" <dlkramer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:FOWYc.9183$6o3.8905@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> If you let an automoile salesman force you into signing a contract I would
> think you have other issues that need to be addressed.
>
>
> -Dana
> "nguyenn" <nghianguyen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uFoXc.1142$A1t.292@news04.bloor.is.net.cable. rogers.com...
>> My contract paper does not mention the 3-day thing. I did call Acura
>> main
>> office and was told that once I signed the contract I have to accept it.
>> Period.
>>
>> N.
>>
>> "Sid Schweiger" <sids1045@aol.comspamthis> wrote in message
>> news:20040822113451.05710.00003586@mb-m14.aol.com...
>> > >I believe you are mistaken on this. I live in CA. When I bought my
> Acura
>> they
>> > told me specifically the deal would be final when I
>> > signed -specifically
>> no 3
>> > days to change my mind.<
>> >
>> > Anyone can tell you anything, but that doesn't make it right. The
> papers
>> I
>> > signed when I bought my TL specifically mentioned the federal law which
>> gave me
>> > the right to revoke the deal within 3 business days. Whatever your
> dealer
>> told
>> > you, they were lying.
>>
>>
>
>

Wrong. You -permitted- yourself to be "pressured" and only have
yourself to blame for a bad deal, even though the saleperson may have
been a total jerk. You had the power to walk out of that dealership at
any time. You should have told the saleman right off that you were only
researching, not purchasing that day.

"jdbh" wrote:
> Wrong. You -permitted- yourself to be "pressured" and only
> have
> yourself to blame for a bad deal, even though the saleperson
> may have
> been a total jerk. You had the power to walk out of that
> dealership at
> any time. You should have told the saleman right off that you
> were only
> researching, not purchasing that day.

Canadian law, at least in Ontario does allow a "cooling off period"
even though most dealers will deny that the law exists . As to your
tires, get an independent mechanic to verify that the tires do not
pass "safety" then threaten the dealer with small claims court, a
paralegal will be happy to help you for a nominal fee.Good luck

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yeah, we have a similar law here too. 7 days i think. take it back. tell
them you don't like it. when they say 'why', just say 'i don't'. don't
give them any room to get you to change your mind. stay firm. just shut up
and ask for your money back and wait for them to give it to you. tell them
you're not leaving until you have all the paper work. be a dick. it's YOUR
money


"kbstreet" <kbstreet@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> I'm not sure about the laws in Canada when buying a new car, but at least
in
> the Chicago area, you have three days to change your mind and bring the
car
> back, no questions asked. You will receive all your deposits back & if
you
> traded in a car, they have to return it to you as well.
>
> "Curtis Newton" <cnewton.remove-this@akamail.com> wrote in message
> news:r9e9i0lis7llla9fbo923p8d8lek2uf0qe@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 03:53:51 GMT, "nguyenn" <nghianguyen@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I just bought an Acura 1.7 EL Premium 2002 at Erin Mills Acura,
> >>Mississauga,
> >>Ontario, Canada. The salesperson, whose name is Stefano Dal Bello, was
a
> >>bastard. I went for a test drive for the car and somehow was pressured
> >>by
> >>him into signing a deposit of 1000 CAD. I heard from another dealer
that
> >>Acura policy does not allow such behavior to customers, enforcing
> >>customers
> >>into buying something by trapping them into paying some deposit. I
bought
> >>it at 17,000 CAD with the milage of 73,343 km. The tires are so worn
out
> >>as
> >>said by my own mechanic, but because that bastard somehow pressured me
> >>into
> >>signing the contract already, I can not ask them to replace the tires.
> >>The
> >>dealer said that the tires was ok and passed safety.
> >>
> >>K.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Who actually signed the contract?? Did he sign it for you or did you
> > sign it??
> >
> > If he had a gun to your head forcing you to sign, you should have
> > called the police!!!!
> >
> >
> > -
> > --
> > cnewton.remove-this@akaMail.com
> > Anti-Spam filter in place--
> > <delete .remove-this to respond to email>
>
>

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 17:05:26 GMT, "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org>
wrote:

>On 8/18/04 10:53 PM, in article
>jvVUc.1806643$Ar.1438334@twister01.bloor.is.net.c able.rogers.com, "nguyenn"
><nghianguyen@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just bought an Acura 1.7 EL Premium 2002 at Erin Mills Acura, Mississauga,
>> Ontario, Canada. The salesperson, whose name is Stefano Dal Bello, was a
>> bastard. I went for a test drive for the car and somehow was pressured by
>> him into signing a deposit of 1000 CAD. I heard from another dealer that
>> Acura policy does not allow such behavior to customers, enforcing customers
>> into buying something by trapping them into paying some deposit. I bought
>> it at 17,000 CAD with the milage of 73,343 km. The tires are so worn out as
>> said by my own mechanic, but because that bastard somehow pressured me into
>> signing the contract already, I can not ask them to replace the tires. The
>> dealer said that the tires was ok and passed safety.

Buddy, no dealership will replace the tires on a used car. They'll
tell you to go fly a kite.

Regarding the deposit, yes I agree that was a sleezy tactic by EM
Acura.