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Old 31 Jul 2004, 06:36 pm
aljudy
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Default Acura vs Accord

I am considering buying a 2004 Honda Accord or an Accura. Can someone
please give me some guidance as to why buy one vs the other besides that
the Acura is a couple of thousand dollars higher in price. I am leaning towards
the Accord because it is simpler and has higher mileage. On the other hand the Acura has traction control and stability control, but these features mean more
complexity. Please give me your thoughts... Al
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Old 01 Aug 2004, 01:15 am
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Default Re: Acura vs Accord

All the extras on the Accord come standard with the Acura.
Plus you get an extra year of warranty.
The engines are the same so the mileages are virtually identical.
Do the math.



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Old 01 Aug 2004, 10:46 am
Kryptoknight
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Default Re: Acura vs Accord

uhmm, go test drive both, you're in a acura newsgroup....
"aljudy" <nowhere@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:L9VOc.5082$AY5.2011@newssvr21.news.prodigy.co m...
I am considering buying a 2004 Honda Accord or an Accura. Can someone
please give me some guidance as to why buy one vs the other besides that
the Acura is a couple of thousand dollars higher in price. I am leaning towards
the Accord because it is simpler and has higher mileage. On the other hand the Acura has traction control and stability control, but these features mean more
complexity. Please give me your thoughts... Al
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Old 01 Aug 2004, 10:53 am
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Default Re: Acura vs Accord

The engines are not the same and hence the mileage differs as well.

The Accord ES V6 has a 3.0 liter engine with 240 hp; it runs on regular
gasoline.

The TL has a 3.2 liter V6 with 270 hp and requires premium petrol due to its
very high compression of 11:1.

My TL delivers only about 20 mpg in mixed daily driving. It is capable of
27 mpg of highway driving only.

When I compared comparable Accords and TLs, the price difference was $9000.
The Accord price was $1000 over dealer invoice and the TL was MSRP.

Since purchasing my TL, here is a list of the problems I have encountered.

1. Bad tires that were replaced with another set of bad tires - Bridgestone
Turanza ELs - vibrate due to flat spotting
2. Transmission recall with a fix that is questionable; real repair is new
transmission design
3. Rattles everywhere - never fixed
4. Wind noise from passenger door/window - never fixed
5. Noise when driver's window is going down - dealer ordered new motor
6. Shift lever gasket oozing out from console - dealer ordered new parts
7. Seat memory never worked - dealer ordered new memory module and new
remote

I bought the car in October 2003 and am very disappointed with its repair
record so far. Nearly $40,000 and it's been one issue after another. The
CEO of American Honda admitted there have been reliability issues with the
new TL. That's an understatement. I recommend purchasing only Hondas or
Acuras manufactured in Japan, the American ones are no better than buying a
Ford or a GM car -- and paying much more for them.

Look at the Acura TSX. I think it is made in Japan.

Best of luck,

- Russ in Santa Barbara
"Sandy" <sbeech6@nospam.cox.net> wrote in message
news:l0%Oc.2299$wz.1872@fed1read01...
> All the extras on the Accord come standard with the Acura.
> Plus you get an extra year of warranty.
> The engines are the same so the mileages are virtually identical.
> Do the math.
>
>
>



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Old 01 Aug 2004, 11:31 am
Kryptoknight
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Default Re: Acura vs Accord

well, rule of thumb is never buy 1st round of new model.

i got my 2004 tl in may 2004 (april build). no issues, and i've been looking
for them.




"RLL" <rlombardo@cox.net> wrote in message
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> The engines are not the same and hence the mileage differs as well.
>
> The Accord ES V6 has a 3.0 liter engine with 240 hp; it runs on regular
> gasoline.
>
> The TL has a 3.2 liter V6 with 270 hp and requires premium petrol due to

its
> very high compression of 11:1.
>
> My TL delivers only about 20 mpg in mixed daily driving. It is capable of
> 27 mpg of highway driving only.
>
> When I compared comparable Accords and TLs, the price difference was

$9000.
> The Accord price was $1000 over dealer invoice and the TL was MSRP.
>
> Since purchasing my TL, here is a list of the problems I have encountered.
>
> 1. Bad tires that were replaced with another set of bad tires -

Bridgestone
> Turanza ELs - vibrate due to flat spotting
> 2. Transmission recall with a fix that is questionable; real repair is new
> transmission design
> 3. Rattles everywhere - never fixed
> 4. Wind noise from passenger door/window - never fixed
> 5. Noise when driver's window is going down - dealer ordered new motor
> 6. Shift lever gasket oozing out from console - dealer ordered new parts
> 7. Seat memory never worked - dealer ordered new memory module and new
> remote
>
> I bought the car in October 2003 and am very disappointed with its repair
> record so far. Nearly $40,000 and it's been one issue after another. The
> CEO of American Honda admitted there have been reliability issues with the
> new TL. That's an understatement. I recommend purchasing only Hondas or
> Acuras manufactured in Japan, the American ones are no better than buying

a
> Ford or a GM car -- and paying much more for them.
>
> Look at the Acura TSX. I think it is made in Japan.
>
> Best of luck,
>
> - Russ in Santa Barbara
> "Sandy" <sbeech6@nospam.cox.net> wrote in message
> news:l0%Oc.2299$wz.1872@fed1read01...
> > All the extras on the Accord come standard with the Acura.
> > Plus you get an extra year of warranty.
> > The engines are the same so the mileages are virtually identical.
> > Do the math.
> >
> >
> >

>
>



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Old 01 Aug 2004, 01:33 pm
Lee Florack
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You have had exceptionally bad luck with your TL. I bought mine
at the end of 2003 and have had only minor issues (compared to
yours) with it I'm sorry you've had as many difficulties as you
have, but in a lot of reading in the newsgroup and on
acura-tl.com and although many of the issues you have with yours
are confirmed by others, I'm not sure I've heard many (any?) with
all of them on the same car.

I guess I'm saying that I don't think your experience is
representative.

On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 07:53:35 -0700, "RLL" <rlombardo@cox.net>
wrote:

>The engines are not the same and hence the mileage differs as well.
>
>The Accord ES V6 has a 3.0 liter engine with 240 hp; it runs on regular
>gasoline.
>
>The TL has a 3.2 liter V6 with 270 hp and requires premium petrol due to its
>very high compression of 11:1.
>
>My TL delivers only about 20 mpg in mixed daily driving. It is capable of
>27 mpg of highway driving only.
>
>When I compared comparable Accords and TLs, the price difference was $9000.
>The Accord price was $1000 over dealer invoice and the TL was MSRP.
>
>Since purchasing my TL, here is a list of the problems I have encountered.
>
>1. Bad tires that were replaced with another set of bad tires - Bridgestone
>Turanza ELs - vibrate due to flat spotting
>2. Transmission recall with a fix that is questionable; real repair is new
>transmission design
>3. Rattles everywhere - never fixed
>4. Wind noise from passenger door/window - never fixed
>5. Noise when driver's window is going down - dealer ordered new motor
>6. Shift lever gasket oozing out from console - dealer ordered new parts
>7. Seat memory never worked - dealer ordered new memory module and new
>remote
>
>I bought the car in October 2003 and am very disappointed with its repair
>record so far. Nearly $40,000 and it's been one issue after another. The
>CEO of American Honda admitted there have been reliability issues with the
>new TL. That's an understatement. I recommend purchasing only Hondas or
>Acuras manufactured in Japan, the American ones are no better than buying a
>Ford or a GM car -- and paying much more for them.
>
>Look at the Acura TSX. I think it is made in Japan.
>
>Best of luck,
>
> - Russ in Santa Barbara
>"Sandy" <sbeech6@nospam.cox.net> wrote in message
>news:l0%Oc.2299$wz.1872@fed1read01...
>> All the extras on the Accord come standard with the Acura.
>> Plus you get an extra year of warranty.
>> The engines are the same so the mileages are virtually identical.
>> Do the math.
>>
>>
>>

>


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Old 01 Aug 2004, 06:16 pm
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Default Re: Acura vs Accord

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:36:27 GMT, "aljudy" <nowhere@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I am considering buying a 2004 Honda Accord or an Accura. Can someone
>please give me some guidance as to why buy one vs the other besides that
>the Acura is a couple of thousand dollars higher in price. I am leaning
>towards the Accord because it is simpler and has higher mileage. On
>the other hand the Acura has traction control and stability control,
>but these features mean more complexity. Please give me your
>thoughts... Al


If you like to drive fast, or you like to have a better logo, go for
the Acura.

If you'd rather save $100/month, go for the Accord.

If you want to save $200/month, go for the 4-banger Accord.

If you want to save $300/month, get a Civic.

Numbers are rough estimates including lease, insurance, registration,
fuel.

Or just go for the Acura cuz chicks dig it.

J.


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Old 02 Aug 2004, 08:49 am
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On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 22:16:17 GMT, JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net>
waived the right to be silent and professed:

>Or just go for the Acura cuz chicks dig it.
>


But, that would cause severe damage to the car!!

--
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
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Old 03 Aug 2004, 08:56 pm
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Default Re: Acura vs Accord

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:36:27 GMT, "aljudy" <nowhere@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I am considering buying a 2004 Honda Accord or an Accura. Can someone
>please give me some guidance as to why buy one vs the other besides that
>the Acura is a couple of thousand dollars higher in price. I am leaning towards
>the Accord because it is simpler and has higher mileage. On the other hand the Acura has traction control and stability control, but these features mean more
>complexity. Please give me your thoughts... Al


If you don't know the difference, go with the Accord.

Enjoy,

Tim Wisner

www.wisner.us
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Old 07 Aug 2004, 11:00 am
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aljudy wrote:

> I am considering buying a 2004 Honda Accord or an Accura. Can someone
> please give me some guidance as to why buy one vs the other besides that
> the Acura is a couple of thousand dollars higher in price. I am leaning
> towards
> the Accord because it is simpler and has higher mileage. On the other
> hand the Acura has traction control and stability control, but these
> features mean more
> complexity. Please give me your thoughts... Al


Test drive.
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