Honda Car Forum

I'd like to buy a 2001 Integra GSR, but thieves like the car too. If I
install a kill switch in the car, where do I put it so that thieves won't
find it?

If I put a LoJack device in the car, do I pay a one-time fee, or is it a
monthly payment?

"Mark M. Graff" <mgraff@dslextreme.com> wrote in
news:vu01c2mmelv061@corp.supernews.com:

> I'd like to buy a 2001 Integra GSR, but thieves like the car too. If I
> install a kill switch in the car, where do I put it so that thieves won't
> find it?
>
> If I put a LoJack device in the car, do I pay a one-time fee, or is it a
> monthly payment?
>
>
>

Get a good alarm,too. A nuisance,but necessary.
I had my ECU stolen last year.Took 6 *weeks* to get a new one from Japan.
They don't always take the entire car,but just the parts they want.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

In article <vu01c2mmelv061@corp.supernews.com>, Mark M. Graff
<mgraff@dslextreme.com> wrote:

> I'd like to buy a 2001 Integra GSR, but thieves like the car too. If I
> install a kill switch in the car, where do I put it so that thieves won't
> find it?
>
> If I put a LoJack device in the car, do I pay a one-time fee, or is it a
> monthly payment?




I would have an exceptionally competent audio/security installer put in
a decent alarm system with a starter/fuel immobiliser. Notice that I
didn't say to get an exceptional alarm installed by an average
installer?? It makes a HUGE difference. The best alarm system
installed by a substandard shop is nothing but a waste of both your
time and money. Have a skilled shop do the work.

If you don't want to go with a full alarm system, design your own EFI
cut/kill circuit. I wired up a SPST relay to the hot side of the fuel
pump wire under the rear seat and then I hid a momentary switch. You
needed to hold the switch and then turn the key to start the car.
Another poster mentioned that they had an ECU stolen... In this case,
you want to design your alarm system to make NOISE. Some suggestions
that I have put into place in both past and present installations...

1) get a battery-back up siren under the hood (even if they cut the
wires, if will wail till power drains - it charged off your alt)

2) take an old dual horn from a Delta88 or similar under burry it under
your dash - connect it to the siren output with a relay to your alarm

3) hide a small piezo siren or an additional horn, etc. in the trunk or
rear bumper cover housing...

4) strobe lights inside and out...

5) get good insurance and sleep well... If they want it, they will
take it... if you can make the idea of compromising your vehicle's
security more difficult than the 'next' vehicle, you will have
effective security...

Did I mention the importance of a good installer??


HTH

Andrew.

not just a good installer, but an honest one.
my gf had her stereo stolen a week after her alarm
was installed. the job was so clean an nothing was
set off. so i figure it was the alarm/radio install guy.




"The Good Bohemian" <neex@redbull.nu> wrote in message
news:171220031040312770%neex@redbull.nu...
> In article <vu01c2mmelv061@corp.supernews.com>, Mark M. Graff
> <mgraff@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
> > I'd like to buy a 2001 Integra GSR, but thieves like the car too. If I
> > install a kill switch in the car, where do I put it so that thieves
won't
> > find it?
> >
> > If I put a LoJack device in the car, do I pay a one-time fee, or is it a
> > monthly payment?
>
>
>
>
> I would have an exceptionally competent audio/security installer put in
> a decent alarm system with a starter/fuel immobiliser. Notice that I
> didn't say to get an exceptional alarm installed by an average
> installer?? It makes a HUGE difference. The best alarm system
> installed by a substandard shop is nothing but a waste of both your
> time and money. Have a skilled shop do the work.
>
> If you don't want to go with a full alarm system, design your own EFI
> cut/kill circuit. I wired up a SPST relay to the hot side of the fuel
> pump wire under the rear seat and then I hid a momentary switch. You
> needed to hold the switch and then turn the key to start the car.
> Another poster mentioned that they had an ECU stolen... In this case,
> you want to design your alarm system to make NOISE. Some suggestions
> that I have put into place in both past and present installations...
>
> 1) get a battery-back up siren under the hood (even if they cut the
> wires, if will wail till power drains - it charged off your alt)
>
> 2) take an old dual horn from a Delta88 or similar under burry it under
> your dash - connect it to the siren output with a relay to your alarm
>
> 3) hide a small piezo siren or an additional horn, etc. in the trunk or
> rear bumper cover housing...
>
> 4) strobe lights inside and out...
>
> 5) get good insurance and sleep well... If they want it, they will
> take it... if you can make the idea of compromising your vehicle's
> security more difficult than the 'next' vehicle, you will have
> effective security...
>
> Did I mention the importance of a good installer??
>
>
> HTH
>
> Andrew.

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:40:31 -0500, The Good Bohemian
<neex@redbull.nu> wrote:

>In article <vu01c2mmelv061@corp.supernews.com>, Mark M. Graff
><mgraff@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd like to buy a 2001 Integra GSR, but thieves like the car too. If I
>> install a kill switch in the car, where do I put it so that thieves won't
>> find it?

I like the glove box, just make sure nothing can hit the switch
accidentally.

>> If I put a LoJack device in the car, do I pay a one-time fee, or is it a
>> monthly payment?

I'm not convinced LoJacks are all that useful. If they steal your car
at 2 AM and have the thing stripped and a LoJack in a trash can at 4
AM -- when you get up at 7 AM -- your car is still gone.

>If you don't want to go with a full alarm system, design your own EFI
>cut/kill circuit. I wired up a SPST relay to the hot side of the fuel
>pump wire under the rear seat and then I hid a momentary switch. You
>needed to hold the switch and then turn the key to start the car.
>Another poster mentioned that they had an ECU stolen... In this case,
>you want to design your alarm system to make NOISE. Some suggestions
>that I have put into place in both past and present installations...

I like the layered approach.

1. Insurance from a reputable company
2. Garage the car is possible
3. Basic Alarm + Large gun by bed (optional -- use subject to local
regulations)
4. Fuel Pump kill switch that is wired directly into the power line
the pump. Swich should be located someplace like glovebox (carefully
hidden), ashtray, in a recessed cubbyhole, etc. If this is installed
wrong, soldered badly, corrosion gets ahold of any connections -- you
will be very very unhappy going down the freeway one day..
5. Detachable face radio
6. If I know I'm in a problematic area, I've been known to pull my
relay for starter or ignition..)

If you happen to be dealing with professionals with a tow truck --
none of the above matter. They will take the thing and thats what
layer 1 is for.

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> >> If I put a LoJack device in the car, do I pay a one-time fee, or is it
a
> >> monthly payment?
>
> I'm not convinced LoJacks are all that useful. If they steal your car
> at 2 AM and have the thing stripped and a LoJack in a trash can at 4
> AM -- when you get up at 7 AM -- your car is still gone.
>


LoJack is a one time fee

LoJack has an add on feature called Early Warning.
It detects unauthorized movement of the car and notifiys you.

LoJack has a 96percent recovery rate within the first 30 min.

And Yes...a good install makes all the diference with alarms.

"tomk" <tomk@nomail.com> wrote in news:bxtEb.37059$hf1.9362@lakeread06:

> not just a good installer, but an honest one.
> my gf had her stereo stolen a week after her alarm
> was installed. the job was so clean an nothing was
> set off. so i figure it was the alarm/radio install guy.
>
>



Yes,they could have another remote coded to that alarm,and turn it off
before opening the door.With electric door locks,it's even easier,the
remote opens the door for them.The installers may even keep a list of
remote codes and what cars they belong to.

--
Jim Yanik,NRA member
jyanik-at-kua.net

I believe one of those microwave proximity sensors would be effective,as if
anyone gets close to the auto,it begins chirping or even talking.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

In article <Xns94566ACCFE547jyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21>, Jim Yanik
<jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:

> "tomk" <tomk@nomail.com> wrote in news:bxtEb.37059$hf1.9362@lakeread06:
>
> > not just a good installer, but an honest one.
> > my gf had her stereo stolen a week after her alarm
> > was installed. the job was so clean an nothing was
> > set off. so i figure it was the alarm/radio install guy.
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Yes,they could have another remote coded to that alarm,and turn it off
> before opening the door.With electric door locks,it's even easier,the
> remote opens the door for them.The installers may even keep a list of
> remote codes and what cars they belong to.


When in doubt, NEVER give them your address (home or work). Give them
a cell# to contact you at and that's it. This will solve any of the
above issues. Even better... find someone honest that you can
trust... ask for references...


Andrew.

Jim Yanik wrote:

> I believe one of those microwave proximity sensors would be effective,as if
> anyone gets close to the auto,it begins chirping or even talking.
>

these are one of the most annoying things on earth. when i hear one of
these go off, i feel like taking a baseball bat to the car.