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Old 16 Nov 2003, 12:50 pm
Joel Elias
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Default New Navi DVD "Update" - Detailed Coverage still disappointing

The Acura owners link shows detailed coverage info for the v2.11 update that
is scheduled for release tomorrow. It highlights added coverage areas in
red. It looks like under 30 new cities were added, including major
metropolitan areas like Bend, OR; Racine, WI: and Boise ID. In addition,
there is expanded coverage of a little over 20 areas currently covered in
v2.05.

Looks like a another major disappointment from Acura. There is no new
coverage for NY, for example, where only Buffalo, Rochester, the NYC area
and Cooperstown have detailed mapping.

Looks like we're screwed again. They really don't seem to have added much in
the two years since the last update and they want $185 plus tax and shipping
for it.

Joel

You can see the list of coverage areas at the Acura Oeners Link or at:

https://ecominet2.alpine-usa.com/htm...reas_honda.htm


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Old 16 Nov 2003, 01:51 pm
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Default Re: New Navi DVD "Update" - Detailed Coverage still disappointing

Joel,

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:50:32 GMT, "Joel Elias"
<jelia555@hotmail.com> wrote:

>The Acura owners link shows detailed coverage info for the v2.11 update that
>is scheduled for release tomorrow. It highlights added coverage areas in
>red. It looks like under 30 new cities were added, including major
>metropolitan areas like Bend, OR; Racine, WI: and Boise ID. In addition,
>there is expanded coverage of a little over 20 areas currently covered in
>v2.05.
>
>Looks like a another major disappointment from Acura. There is no new
>coverage for NY, for example, where only Buffalo, Rochester, the NYC area
>and Cooperstown have detailed mapping.
>
>Looks like we're screwed again. They really don't seem to have added much in
>the two years since the last update and they want $185 plus tax and shipping
>for it.
>
>Joel
>
>You can see the list of coverage areas at the Acura Oeners Link or at:
>
>https://ecominet2.alpine-usa.com/htm...reas_honda.htm
>


So you know, virtually ALL (if not all) GPS vendors purchase and
use maps from NaviTech. Whatever detail exists (or doesn't) is
coming from them.
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Old 16 Nov 2003, 06:16 pm
E. Meyer
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Default Re: New Navi DVD "Update" - Detailed Coverage still disappointing

On 11/16/03 11:50 AM, in article INOtb.96203$ji3.56893@twister.nyroc.rr.com,
"Joel Elias" <jelia555@hotmail.com> wrote:

> The Acura owners link shows detailed coverage info for the v2.11 update that
> is scheduled for release tomorrow. It highlights added coverage areas in
> red. It looks like under 30 new cities were added, including major
> metropolitan areas like Bend, OR; Racine, WI: and Boise ID. In addition,
> there is expanded coverage of a little over 20 areas currently covered in
> v2.05.
>
> Looks like a another major disappointment from Acura. There is no new
> coverage for NY, for example, where only Buffalo, Rochester, the NYC area
> and Cooperstown have detailed mapping.
>
> Looks like we're screwed again. They really don't seem to have added much in
> the two years since the last update and they want $185 plus tax and shipping
> for it.
>
> Joel
>
> You can see the list of coverage areas at the Acura Oeners Link or at:
>
> https://ecominet2.alpine-usa.com/htm...reas_honda.htm
>
>

That link is showing the old updates on the 2001 DVD (version 2.05). The
Acura owner's link is still not showing a new update, at least not for my
2000 TL.

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Old 16 Nov 2003, 07:31 pm
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Default Re: New Navi DVD "Update" - Detailed Coverage still disappointing

> >
> > You can see the list of coverage areas at the Acura Oeners Link or at:
> >
> > https://ecominet2.alpine-usa.com/htm...reas_honda.htm
> >
> >

> That link is showing the old updates on the 2001 DVD (version 2.05). The
> Acura owner's link is still not showing a new update, at least not for my
> 2000 TL.
>


The above link is the same link that I get when I go in through Acura
Owner's link for my 2000 TL and it clearly says "Acura Navi DVD ver 2.11b
$185", not v2.05b.

Is it possible that your browser is not refreshing? Owners Link has been
coming up with the update order form for the past several days.

Joel


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Old 16 Nov 2003, 07:58 pm
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"Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message >
> So you know, virtually ALL (if not all) GPS vendors purchase and
> use maps from NaviTech. Whatever detail exists (or doesn't) is
> coming from them.


True, but it looks like we're not getting ALL of the available detail on
Acura's DVD.

Compare coverage for Alpine's current aftermarket system v2.0 with Acura's
v2.11. Alpine gets its data from NavTech and also markets Acura's DVDs.

Alpine:
http://www.alpine-usa.com/html/D2_n_1_n_n.html

Acura:
https://ecominet2.alpine-usa.com/htm...reas_honda.htm

A quick check shows that the Alpine DVD has more detailed coverage than the
Acura DVD. Check out Syracuse, NY for example. Alpine's DVD even includes
some detailed coverage in the provinces of Ontario and British Colombia,
Canada.

Sure looks like Acura is not providing all of the detailed coverage
available form NavTech.

Joel


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Old 17 Nov 2003, 09:28 am
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Default Re: New Navi DVD "Update" - Detailed Coverage still disappointing

On 11/16/03 6:31 PM, in article pFUtb.72616$1N3.71981@twister.nyroc.rr.com,
"Joel Elias" <jelia555@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>
>>> You can see the list of coverage areas at the Acura Oeners Link or at:
>>>
>>> https://ecominet2.alpine-usa.com/htm...reas_honda.htm
>>>
>>>

>> That link is showing the old updates on the 2001 DVD (version 2.05). The
>> Acura owner's link is still not showing a new update, at least not for my
>> 2000 TL.
>>

>
> The above link is the same link that I get when I go in through Acura
> Owner's link for my 2000 TL and it clearly says "Acura Navi DVD ver 2.11b
> $185", not v2.05b.
>
> Is it possible that your browser is not refreshing? Owners Link has been
> coming up with the update order form for the past several days.
>
> Joel
>
>


Checked all that. Browser is clear and flushed. I was able to get to it by
following the link from the Acura site, then hacking the URL to get to the
parent page at alpine. 2.11 shows up there. I'm think there must be a java
bug in the Acura site.

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Old 17 Nov 2003, 01:59 pm
John Cho
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Default Re: New Navi DVD "Update" - Detailed Coverage still disappointing

I remember reading somewhere that Honda/Acura is required to be a year/version
behind Alpine...

Joel Elias wrote:

> "Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message >
> > So you know, virtually ALL (if not all) GPS vendors purchase and
> > use maps from NaviTech. Whatever detail exists (or doesn't) is
> > coming from them.

>
> True, but it looks like we're not getting ALL of the available detail on
> Acura's DVD.
>
> Compare coverage for Alpine's current aftermarket system v2.0 with Acura's
> v2.11. Alpine gets its data from NavTech and also markets Acura's DVDs.
>
> Alpine:
> http://www.alpine-usa.com/html/D2_n_1_n_n.html
>
> Acura:
> https://ecominet2.alpine-usa.com/htm...reas_honda.htm
>
> A quick check shows that the Alpine DVD has more detailed coverage than the
> Acura DVD. Check out Syracuse, NY for example. Alpine's DVD even includes
> some detailed coverage in the provinces of Ontario and British Colombia,
> Canada.
>
> Sure looks like Acura is not providing all of the detailed coverage
> available form NavTech.
>
> Joel


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