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Buying an Acura RSX, and very unsure of whether or not to add a spoiler.
Parental units have advised that it looks too weird on the RSX, but i've never
had a coupe and think the spoiler maybe adds something to the profile. Any
general thoughts are much appreciated!!

it's probably more about looks than real performance, but i think the RSX
looks extremely cool without it anyhow\
( wish i could get an RSX too heheheh... have to do with a civic for now,
ouch )
"JdogInSoCal" <jdoginsocal@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030915220128.18292.00000913@mb-m13.aol.com...
> Buying an Acura RSX, and very unsure of whether or not to add a spoiler.
> Parental units have advised that it looks too weird on the RSX, but i've
never
> had a coupe and think the spoiler maybe adds something to the profile.
Any
> general thoughts are much appreciated!!

Yes. I also do not like the spoiler on the RSX. It makes the back end look
to high IMO.

"jorg" <raven@wrath.com> wrote in message
news:g7v9b.3489$hF3.520276@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> it's probably more about looks than real performance, but i think the RSX
> looks extremely cool without it anyhow\
> ( wish i could get an RSX too heheheh... have to do with a civic for now,
> ouch )
> "JdogInSoCal" <jdoginsocal@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20030915220128.18292.00000913@mb-m13.aol.com...
> > Buying an Acura RSX, and very unsure of whether or not to add a spoiler.
> > Parental units have advised that it looks too weird on the RSX, but i've
> never
> > had a coupe and think the spoiler maybe adds something to the profile.
> Any
> > general thoughts are much appreciated!!
>
>

I think the car looks much better without a spoiler.

--


Rob

"JdogInSoCal" <jdoginsocal@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030915220128.18292.00000913@mb-m13.aol.com...
> Buying an Acura RSX, and very unsure of whether or not to add a spoiler.
> Parental units have advised that it looks too weird on the RSX, but i've
never
> had a coupe and think the spoiler maybe adds something to the profile.
Any
> general thoughts are much appreciated!!

all rear spoiler on front wheel drive cars are a joke. Plus at speeds under
100 mph all they do is make wind noise and waste gas. They are strictly for
appearance and appeal to kids.

I has rear spoilers on my cars when I was a kid (30 years ago) before they
were mass produced and loved them because it was different, (read with
emphasis ... different) but now I wouldnt bother, since like you said every
car has one.

The best thing about spoilers now is the LED brake lights !


"George" <gmenzie@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vmfeo0c6bhfu0b@corp.supernews.com...
> Well, I guess it's just a matter of opinion. I had the low factory version
> installed and I love it.
>
> I realize that there are lot of cheap wannabe sporty coupes out there,
that
> come stock with spoilers, and they litter the landscape. But, my spoiler
> actually does add stability during my daily 80 MPH journey on the
Interstate
> back and forth to work. Plus, it adds just a titch of 'snottyness' to the
> classic high-ass back end!
>
> My 2 cents.
>
> Geo
>
> "JdogInSoCal" <jdoginsocal@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20030915220128.18292.00000913@mb-m13.aol.com...
> > Buying an Acura RSX, and very unsure of whether or not to add a spoiler.
> > Parental units have advised that it looks too weird on the RSX, but i've
> never
> > had a coupe and think the spoiler maybe adds something to the profile.
> Any
> > general thoughts are much appreciated!!
>
>

Stu:

As I said, it's just a matter of opinion.

When you're ready to supply the aerodynamic data to support the notion that
rear spoilers on front wheel drive vehicles are a joke, just make wind, and
waste gas, please post them to the group.

I 'get it' that you're against spoilers and respect that. No prob.

My statement was pro-Acura and positive - speaking from my own experience -
that's why I read and post to this list.. I believe that the original poster
was looking for such feedback. I guess I could be wrong, however.

What say you, Jdoginsocal?

George


"Stuart Gordon" <sgordon0531@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:aIX9b.52538$DZ.19747@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> all rear spoiler on front wheel drive cars are a joke. Plus at speeds
under
> 100 mph all they do is make wind noise and waste gas. They are strictly
for
> appearance and appeal to kids.
>
> I has rear spoilers on my cars when I was a kid (30 years ago) before they
> were mass produced and loved them because it was different, (read with
> emphasis ... different) but now I wouldnt bother, since like you said
every
> car has one.
>
> The best thing about spoilers now is the LED brake lights !
>
>
> "George" <gmenzie@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:vmfeo0c6bhfu0b@corp.supernews.com...
> > Well, I guess it's just a matter of opinion. I had the low factory
version
> > installed and I love it.
> >
> > I realize that there are lot of cheap wannabe sporty coupes out there,
> that
> > come stock with spoilers, and they litter the landscape. But, my spoiler
> > actually does add stability during my daily 80 MPH journey on the
> Interstate
> > back and forth to work. Plus, it adds just a titch of 'snottyness' to
the
> > classic high-ass back end!
> >
> > My 2 cents.
> >
> > Geo
> >
> > "JdogInSoCal" <jdoginsocal@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20030915220128.18292.00000913@mb-m13.aol.com...
> > > Buying an Acura RSX, and very unsure of whether or not to add a
spoiler.
> > > Parental units have advised that it looks too weird on the RSX, but
i've
> > never
> > > had a coupe and think the spoiler maybe adds something to the profile.
> > Any
> > > general thoughts are much appreciated!!
> >
> >
>
>

Gotta agree with you there, George.

RiCK


"George" <gmenzie@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vmi55o1b3ftobe@corp.supernews.com...
> Stu:
>
> As I said, it's just a matter of opinion.
>
> When you're ready to supply the aerodynamic data to support the notion
that
> rear spoilers on front wheel drive vehicles are a joke, just make wind,
and
> waste gas, please post them to the group.
>
> I 'get it' that you're against spoilers and respect that. No prob.
>
> My statement was pro-Acura and positive - speaking from my own
experience -
> that's why I read and post to this list.. I believe that the original
poster
> was looking for such feedback. I guess I could be wrong, however.
>
> What say you, Jdoginsocal?
>
> George
>
>
> "Stuart Gordon" <sgordon0531@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:aIX9b.52538$DZ.19747@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > all rear spoiler on front wheel drive cars are a joke. Plus at speeds
> under
> > 100 mph all they do is make wind noise and waste gas. They are strictly
> for
> > appearance and appeal to kids.
> >
> > I has rear spoilers on my cars when I was a kid (30 years ago) before
they
> > were mass produced and loved them because it was different, (read with
> > emphasis ... different) but now I wouldnt bother, since like you said
> every
> > car has one.
> >
> > The best thing about spoilers now is the LED brake lights !
> >
> >
> > "George" <gmenzie@charter.net> wrote in message
> > news:vmfeo0c6bhfu0b@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Well, I guess it's just a matter of opinion. I had the low factory
> version
> > > installed and I love it.
> > >
> > > I realize that there are lot of cheap wannabe sporty coupes out there,
> > that
> > > come stock with spoilers, and they litter the landscape. But, my
spoiler
> > > actually does add stability during my daily 80 MPH journey on the
> > Interstate
> > > back and forth to work. Plus, it adds just a titch of 'snottyness' to
> the
> > > classic high-ass back end!
> > >
> > > My 2 cents.
> > >
> > > Geo
> > >
> > > "JdogInSoCal" <jdoginsocal@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20030915220128.18292.00000913@mb-m13.aol.com...
> > > > Buying an Acura RSX, and very unsure of whether or not to add a
> spoiler.
> > > > Parental units have advised that it looks too weird on the RSX, but
> i've
> > > never
> > > > had a coupe and think the spoiler maybe adds something to the
profile.
> > > Any
> > > > general thoughts are much appreciated!!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Stuart is correct about the spoilers.

It is a scientific fact they provide no down force at vehicle speeds under
100-150 mph. Just look at the difference between the wing on a circle or
dirt tracker compared to a Indy or formula 1 car. And on the subject of Indy
cars look at the car when driven on a road course and on a super speed way.
The wing (or aerodynamic surfaces) for the road course is three times larger
than the speedway wing.The slower the operating envelope of the vehicle the
larger the surface area and steeper angle of the wing. Most passenger cars
operate at around 55-75mph which is about the same as the speed for a sprint
car.

So to get any aerodynamic function like down force the wing would have to be
about 8-10 square feet in area. You put that on a passenger car and the drag
co-efficient goes way up and gas mileage drops dramatically due to increased
drag. So most spoilers are added for looks and provide no usable purpose
other than to say smooth the air flow around the vehicle.

--
Scott A. Bregi

Model Building is FUN!.........model building is fun.......model building is
?$#!!*?##!%$?&%$##!!



"George" <gmenzie@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vmi55o1b3ftobe@corp.supernews.com...
> Stu:
>
> As I said, it's just a matter of opinion.
>
> When you're ready to supply the aerodynamic data to support the notion
that
> rear spoilers on front wheel drive vehicles are a joke, just make wind,
and
> waste gas, please post them to the group.
>
> I 'get it' that you're against spoilers and respect that. No prob.
>
> My statement was pro-Acura and positive - speaking from my own
experience -
> that's why I read and post to this list.. I believe that the original
poster
> was looking for such feedback. I guess I could be wrong, however.
>
> What say you, Jdoginsocal?
>
> George
>
>
> "Stuart Gordon" <sgordon0531@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:aIX9b.52538$DZ.19747@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > all rear spoiler on front wheel drive cars are a joke. Plus at speeds
> under
> > 100 mph all they do is make wind noise and waste gas. They are strictly
> for
> > appearance and appeal to kids.
> >
> > I has rear spoilers on my cars when I was a kid (30 years ago) before
they
> > were mass produced and loved them because it was different, (read with
> > emphasis ... different) but now I wouldnt bother, since like you said
> every
> > car has one.
> >
> > The best thing about spoilers now is the LED brake lights !
> >
> >
> > "George" <gmenzie@charter.net> wrote in message
> > news:vmfeo0c6bhfu0b@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Well, I guess it's just a matter of opinion. I had the low factory
> version
> > > installed and I love it.
> > >
> > > I realize that there are lot of cheap wannabe sporty coupes out there,
> > that
> > > come stock with spoilers, and they litter the landscape. But, my
spoiler
> > > actually does add stability during my daily 80 MPH journey on the
> > Interstate
> > > back and forth to work. Plus, it adds just a titch of 'snottyness' to
> the
> > > classic high-ass back end!
> > >
> > > My 2 cents.
> > >
> > > Geo
> > >
> > > "JdogInSoCal" <jdoginsocal@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20030915220128.18292.00000913@mb-m13.aol.com...
> > > > Buying an Acura RSX, and very unsure of whether or not to add a
> spoiler.
> > > > Parental units have advised that it looks too weird on the RSX, but
> i've
> > > never
> > > > had a coupe and think the spoiler maybe adds something to the
profile.
> > > Any
> > > > general thoughts are much appreciated!!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Scott (and Stu)

Thanks Scott!

ALL points well taken and convincingly documented.

I stand corrected and will adjust my thinking accordingly.

So, I guess it's just a matter, again of opinion on looks.

I defer all technical knowledge to all who really know about this.
Seriously.

I think I'm beginning to really like this group!

Thanks again for taking the time to present the info.

George
"Scott A. Bregi" <plasticmodeler@cox.net> wrote in message
news:0qjab.110930$uh6.70721@lakeread05...
> Well here is an addendum to my previous post. Here are some sites that
> explain what I was talking about. You wanted data so here it is!
>
> http://science.howstuffworks.com/question633.htm
>
> http://www.imps4ever.info/tech/aero.html
>
> http://www.hpiracing.com/glossary.htm#D
>
> http://www.gmecca.com/byorc/dtipsaerodynamics.html
>
> http://www.aerodyn.org/Annexes/Racing/hlifts.html
>
> http://www.chefjosh.com/ricerules.shtml
>
>
>
> --
> Scott A. Bregi
>
> Model Building is FUN!.........model building is fun.......model building
is
> ?$#!!*?##!%$?&%$##!!
>
>
>
> "George" <gmenzie@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:vmi55o1b3ftobe@corp.supernews.com...
> > Stu:
> >
> > As I said, it's just a matter of opinion.
> >
> > When you're ready to supply the aerodynamic data to support the notion
> that
> > rear spoilers on front wheel drive vehicles are a joke, just make wind,
> and
> > waste gas, please post them to the group.
> >
> > I 'get it' that you're against spoilers and respect that. No prob.
> >
> > My statement was pro-Acura and positive - speaking from my own
> experience -
> > that's why I read and post to this list.. I believe that the original
> poster
> > was looking for such feedback. I guess I could be wrong, however.
> >
> > What say you, Jdoginsocal?
> >
> > George
> >
> >
> > "Stuart Gordon" <sgordon0531@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:aIX9b.52538$DZ.19747@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > > all rear spoiler on front wheel drive cars are a joke. Plus at speeds
> > under
> > > 100 mph all they do is make wind noise and waste gas. They are
strictly
> > for
> > > appearance and appeal to kids.
> > >
> > > I has rear spoilers on my cars when I was a kid (30 years ago) before
> they
> > > were mass produced and loved them because it was different, (read with
> > > emphasis ... different) but now I wouldnt bother, since like you said
> > every
> > > car has one.
> > >
> > > The best thing about spoilers now is the LED brake lights !
> > >
> > >
> > > "George" <gmenzie@charter.net> wrote in message
> > > news:vmfeo0c6bhfu0b@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > Well, I guess it's just a matter of opinion. I had the low factory
> > version
> > > > installed and I love it.
> > > >
> > > > I realize that there are lot of cheap wannabe sporty coupes out
there,
> > > that
> > > > come stock with spoilers, and they litter the landscape. But, my
> spoiler
> > > > actually does add stability during my daily 80 MPH journey on the
> > > Interstate
> > > > back and forth to work. Plus, it adds just a titch of 'snottyness'
to
> > the
> > > > classic high-ass back end!
> > > >
> > > > My 2 cents.
> > > >
> > > > Geo
> > > >
> > > > "JdogInSoCal" <jdoginsocal@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:20030915220128.18292.00000913@mb-m13.aol.com...
> > > > > Buying an Acura RSX, and very unsure of whether or not to add a
> > spoiler.
> > > > > Parental units have advised that it looks too weird on the RSX,
but
> > i've
> > > > never
> > > > > had a coupe and think the spoiler maybe adds something to the
> profile.
> > > > Any
> > > > > general thoughts are much appreciated!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

I still agree with George, even if he is accepting the empirical data. I
don't disagree with the data, but I do agree with George's post that the
pro-Acura sentiment was there and the guy probably wasn't looking for
negativity, just someone to affirm that yes, spoilers look cool.

Rick


"George" <gmenzie@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vmkm109f562led@corp.supernews.com...
> Scott (and Stu)
>
> Thanks Scott!
>
> ALL points well taken and convincingly documented.
>
> I stand corrected and will adjust my thinking accordingly.
>
> So, I guess it's just a matter, again of opinion on looks.
>
> I defer all technical knowledge to all who really know about this.
> Seriously.
>
> I think I'm beginning to really like this group!
>
> Thanks again for taking the time to present the info.
>
> George
> "Scott A. Bregi" <plasticmodeler@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:0qjab.110930$uh6.70721@lakeread05...
> > Well here is an addendum to my previous post. Here are some sites that
> > explain what I was talking about. You wanted data so here it is!
> >
> > http://science.howstuffworks.com/question633.htm
> >
> > http://www.imps4ever.info/tech/aero.html
> >
> > http://www.hpiracing.com/glossary.htm#D
> >
> > http://www.gmecca.com/byorc/dtipsaerodynamics.html
> >
> > http://www.aerodyn.org/Annexes/Racing/hlifts.html
> >
> > http://www.chefjosh.com/ricerules.shtml
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Scott A. Bregi
> >
> > Model Building is FUN!.........model building is fun.......model
building
> is
> > ?$#!!*?##!%$?&%$##!!
> >
> >
> >
> > "George" <gmenzie@charter.net> wrote in message
> > news:vmi55o1b3ftobe@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Stu:
> > >
> > > As I said, it's just a matter of opinion.
> > >
> > > When you're ready to supply the aerodynamic data to support the notion
> > that
> > > rear spoilers on front wheel drive vehicles are a joke, just make
wind,
> > and
> > > waste gas, please post them to the group.
> > >
> > > I 'get it' that you're against spoilers and respect that. No prob.
> > >
> > > My statement was pro-Acura and positive - speaking from my own
> > experience -
> > > that's why I read and post to this list.. I believe that the original
> > poster
> > > was looking for such feedback. I guess I could be wrong, however.
> > >
> > > What say you, Jdoginsocal?
> > >
> > > George
> > >
> > >
> > > "Stuart Gordon" <sgordon0531@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > news:aIX9b.52538$DZ.19747@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > > > all rear spoiler on front wheel drive cars are a joke. Plus at
speeds
> > > under
> > > > 100 mph all they do is make wind noise and waste gas. They are
> strictly
> > > for
> > > > appearance and appeal to kids.
> > > >
> > > > I has rear spoilers on my cars when I was a kid (30 years ago)
before
> > they
> > > > were mass produced and loved them because it was different, (read
with
> > > > emphasis ... different) but now I wouldnt bother, since like you
said
> > > every
> > > > car has one.
> > > >
> > > > The best thing about spoilers now is the LED brake lights !
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "George" <gmenzie@charter.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:vmfeo0c6bhfu0b@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > Well, I guess it's just a matter of opinion. I had the low factory
> > > version
> > > > > installed and I love it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I realize that there are lot of cheap wannabe sporty coupes out
> there,
> > > > that
> > > > > come stock with spoilers, and they litter the landscape. But, my
> > spoiler
> > > > > actually does add stability during my daily 80 MPH journey on the
> > > > Interstate
> > > > > back and forth to work. Plus, it adds just a titch of 'snottyness'
> to
> > > the
> > > > > classic high-ass back end!
> > > > >
> > > > > My 2 cents.
> > > > >
> > > > > Geo
> > > > >
> > > > > "JdogInSoCal" <jdoginsocal@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:20030915220128.18292.00000913@mb-m13.aol.com...
> > > > > > Buying an Acura RSX, and very unsure of whether or not to add a
> > > spoiler.
> > > > > > Parental units have advised that it looks too weird on the RSX,
> but
> > > i've
> > > > > never
> > > > > > had a coupe and think the spoiler maybe adds something to the
> > profile.
> > > > > Any
> > > > > > general thoughts are much appreciated!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>