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Old 01 Sep 2003, 12:03 am
S.Reboulet
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Default Trouble playing CD-R's?

I've found that my 2000 3.2TL is really struggling when I try to play a
CD-R, whether it's made from my computer, or someone else's. You can
hear it chugging away to find the track and once in a while it will find
the right track, but can search for 10 minutes looking for the next track...
I've used a CD lens cleaning disk, but still not much improvement.

It is a common thing for this particular stereo to not do well with
CD-R's, or does mine need some more extensive lens cleaning to work
properly?

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Old 01 Sep 2003, 03:32 am
Gabriel Afana
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"S.Reboulet" <berklee46@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I've found that my 2000 3.2TL is really struggling when I try to play a
> CD-R, whether it's made from my computer, or someone else's. You can
> hear it chugging away to find the track and once in a while it will find
> the right track, but can search for 10 minutes looking for the next

track...
> I've used a CD lens cleaning disk, but still not much improvement.
>
> It is a common thing for this particular stereo to not do well with
> CD-R's, or does mine need some more extensive lens cleaning to work
> properly?
>


Nothing new to the rest of us TL owners (maybe other acuras as well). Just
as Acura used crappy rotors in our TL's (very easily warped), they also put
a crappy CD player in the dash that has the hardest time reading CD-Rs.
Luckily I got the CD changer in the trunk and I just put all my CD-Rs in
that and they work perfect.

Gabe


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Old 01 Sep 2003, 05:15 am
Ryan
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Default Re: Trouble playing CD-R's?

On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 08:32:47 GMT, "Gabriel Afana"
<adtomi@adelphia.net> wrote:

>Nothing new to the rest of us TL owners (maybe other acuras as well).


my 2000 Integra plays any CD-R i throw at it. i've read about lots of
TL owners with this problem. there was a thread awhile back that
suggested that some brands of CD-R work better than others. strange
that the TL is the one that winds up with the quirky CD player, as i'd
expect better out of the more expensive car.

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Old 01 Sep 2003, 11:05 am
Stuart Gordon
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Default Re: Trouble playing CD-R's?

you have to try different brands til you find ones that your CD player can
read easily .... trial and error ! Be patient.


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Old 01 Sep 2003, 12:23 pm
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Default Re: Trouble playing CD-R's?

That's not true at all. The CD player is quite decent and from my
experiences, it plays Memorex, TDK, Sony, and the cheapie HyperMedia CD-Rs.
Maybe you should have the dealer service the unit.


"Gabriel Afana" <adtomi@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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>
> "S.Reboulet" <berklee46@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:zgmdnSvo0ctoXs-iXTWJhQ@comcast.com...
> > I've found that my 2000 3.2TL is really struggling when I try to play a
> > CD-R, whether it's made from my computer, or someone else's. You can
> > hear it chugging away to find the track and once in a while it will find
> > the right track, but can search for 10 minutes looking for the next

> track...
> > I've used a CD lens cleaning disk, but still not much improvement.
> >
> > It is a common thing for this particular stereo to not do well with
> > CD-R's, or does mine need some more extensive lens cleaning to work
> > properly?
> >

>
> Nothing new to the rest of us TL owners (maybe other acuras as well).

Just
> as Acura used crappy rotors in our TL's (very easily warped), they also

put
> a crappy CD player in the dash that has the hardest time reading CD-Rs.
> Luckily I got the CD changer in the trunk and I just put all my CD-Rs in
> that and they work perfect.
>
> Gabe
>
>



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Old 01 Sep 2003, 12:39 pm
S.Reboulet
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Default Re: Trouble playing CD-R's?

I've tried almost every brand of CD-R and have the same results...




Stuart Gordon wrote:
> you have to try different brands til you find ones that your CD player can
> read easily .... trial and error ! Be patient.
>
>


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Old 01 Sep 2003, 01:08 pm
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Default HOW TO GET IT TO PLAY

There are two things you can do to get CD-Rs to play in your CD player if
its not working.

1. Use better discs. Of course, the better the quality of the disc, the
better luck you should have. I've had PERFECT luck with the Mitsui diamond
silver discs (look like real store-bought discs). They are a little more
expensive than the norm (they are about $0.50/disc) and you can find them at
www.mitsui.com. BEFORE buying better discs, try the next thing...

2. Burn your CD-Rs at a slower speed. For FusionGuy and F. Meyer, they
could just have slow CD-RW drives and as far as they know, they CD player in
their car plays it perfect. I have a 52X burner....when I burn at 52X, good
luck getting a song to play in the dash. However, burn at 16X at it plays
MUCH better. Burn at 2X and never see any problems.

So really its a combination of poorer quaility discs, too fast of a burn and
a poor quality laser in the TL. First burn slow, doesn't work, buy better
discs and then burn slow again :-) Let me know if this helps.

Gabe


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Old 01 Sep 2003, 10:29 pm
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Default Re: HOW TO GET IT TO PLAY

I did a "test" today and tried about a dozen different CD-Rs. I went
through my collection and grabbed just about every brand that make's
CD-R's and also ones made with different machines. Plus I made a handful
at different speeds and tried them.

The result?
They were all the same as far as the CD player in my car saw it. None
were any better than any others. If I was lucky, it would find the first
track and play, but forget trying to jump to another track and expect it
to play - even after almost 10 minutes!

I've done quite a bit of reading on this over the past several days and
it seems that the head units in the 99-00 TLs are most notorious for
this. Something to do with the lasers...Also, many who had their head
unit replaced with an updated unit from Acura had the problem completely
resolved. (In fact, the owner's manual for the 2003 TL even discussed
playing CD-Rs)


I'll call the dealer tomorrow and hopefully be able to get the head unit
replaced with a newer one.




Gabriel Afana wrote:
> There are two things you can do to get CD-Rs to play in your CD player if
> its not working.
>
> 1. Use better discs. Of course, the better the quality of the disc, the
> better luck you should have. I've had PERFECT luck with the Mitsui diamond
> silver discs (look like real store-bought discs). They are a little more
> expensive than the norm (they are about $0.50/disc) and you can find them at
> www.mitsui.com. BEFORE buying better discs, try the next thing...
>
> 2. Burn your CD-Rs at a slower speed. For FusionGuy and F. Meyer, they
> could just have slow CD-RW drives and as far as they know, they CD player in
> their car plays it perfect. I have a 52X burner....when I burn at 52X, good
> luck getting a song to play in the dash. However, burn at 16X at it plays
> MUCH better. Burn at 2X and never see any problems.
>
> So really its a combination of poorer quaility discs, too fast of a burn and
> a poor quality laser in the TL. First burn slow, doesn't work, buy better
> discs and then burn slow again :-) Let me know if this helps.
>
> Gabe
>
>


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Old 02 Sep 2003, 07:40 am
Don F
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Default Re: Trouble playing CD-R's?

"S.Reboulet" wrote..
> I've found that my 2000 3.2TL is really struggling when I try to play a
> CD-R, whether it's made from my computer, or someone else's. You can
> hear it chugging away to find the track and once in a while it will find
> the right track, but can search for 10 minutes looking for the next

track...
> I've used a CD lens cleaning disk, but still not much improvement.
>
> It is a common thing for this particular stereo to not do well with
> CD-R's, or does mine need some more extensive lens cleaning to work
> properly?
>

-------------------------------------------------
There are 3 variables involved in playing a CD-R in a car CD player ....
--- the brand (coating type) of the CD-R media
--- the CD-R burner you are using
--- the CD player in the car
I had an expensive CD-R burner that I used successfully for years with TDK
and Mitsui CD-Rs. When I switched to Imation CD-Rs, I had problems.
I bough a new Plextor burner which a adjustment to vary the laser
intensity if a problem occurs while playing in a car CD player.
I have some CD-Rs which were burned in my old burner and some which were
burned in my new burner.
Every CD which I have burned using TDK, Mitsui, and Imation CD-Rs play
flawlessly in my 2002 3.2TL.
If your problem has just recently started, your CD player may need to be
removed and the laser lens cleaned by a professional.
Hope this helps,
Don



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Old 05 Sep 2003, 02:49 am
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>Just
>as Acura used crappy rotors in our TL's (very easily warped), they also put
>a crappy CD player in the dash


Given the bad press that factory-installed CD players and stereos get (even the
so-called "premium" and Bose models) I wonder if there is *any* "stock" CD
player that is truly high quality. (Although I will admit, the ability to play
a CD-R would seem to be a basic requirement for a CD-player and not a premium
feature.)

When I bought my RSX it was impossible to get specs on the factory-installed CD
player and speakers. I swapped them out within a couple of weeks and never
looked back, but it would seem to me that auto dealers would be smart to offer
a truly audiophile-quality stereo as an option.

Rob
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