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Old 03 Aug 2003, 12:13 pm
VinnieMak
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Default Bolt location - transmission oil change 3.2TL 2000

I was looking for the bolt location on the transmission, to do the transmission
oil change.

I looked underneath and found a plug marked PL. The same plug if on level
ground can be accessed by reaching it from the top, located opposite to the
radiator, to the right (i.e if you have the hood up and looked down, you can
kinda see this bolt). I had the car up on the ramp and saw the PL plug clearly
marked. I guess to do the transmission oil change, the car needs to be on
level ground (and not up on ramps like I had). It will be a challenge to get
at the bolt from the top.

Is this it?? or is there another tranny replacement bolt that I completely
missed. I just wanted to be sure.

So far the TL3.2 service is going good ; I replaced the anti freeze, oil &
filter change, AC cabin filters, air filter. Just the tranny fluid and last
the brake fluid bleed down.


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Old 03 Aug 2003, 04:17 pm
E. Meyer
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Default Re: Bolt location - transmission oil change 3.2TL 2000

The drain plug is accessible from underneath. Jack it up and take the left
front wheel off. It is on the side in an indentation behind the frame rail.
You will recognize it style of the bolt head - your breaker bar goes
directly into the bolt. Torque it to 36 lbf-ft with a new crush washer.

The fill plug is on top of the transaxle between the engine and the left
strut tower. Look for a big brass bolt marked "ATF" conveniently in the
middle of a big empty space. It should be torqued to 33 lbf-ft with a new
crush washer.

Take off both bolts to drain it. Then fill with 2.9 US quarts.

On 8/3/03 11:13 AM, in article 20030803121356.27762.00000869@mb-m23.aol.com,
"VinnieMak" <vinniemak@aol.com> wrote:

> I was looking for the bolt location on the transmission, to do the
> transmission
> oil change.
>
> I looked underneath and found a plug marked PL. The same plug if on level
> ground can be accessed by reaching it from the top, located opposite to the
> radiator, to the right (i.e if you have the hood up and looked down, you can
> kinda see this bolt). I had the car up on the ramp and saw the PL plug
> clearly
> marked. I guess to do the transmission oil change, the car needs to be on
> level ground (and not up on ramps like I had). It will be a challenge to get
> at the bolt from the top.
>
> Is this it?? or is there another tranny replacement bolt that I completely
> missed. I just wanted to be sure.
>
> So far the TL3.2 service is going good ; I replaced the anti freeze, oil &
> filter change, AC cabin filters, air filter. Just the tranny fluid and last
> the brake fluid bleed down.
>
>


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Old 03 Aug 2003, 06:24 pm
vinniemak
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Default Re: Bolt location - transmission oil change 3.2TL 2000

Thanks E. Meyer to the rescue. I will look for the ATF bolt as you have
described.

In regards to filling, can I fill using the hole after removing the
transmission oil dipstick?? using the top fill port could be harder ??

I have the new crush washer - so I am all set. I will probably to all of
this on Tuesday evening. Will keep you posted. Thanks for all your help so
far. You've been most helpful.

Regards,

Vinnie
========
"E. Meyer" <e.meyer@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BB52D7FC.8C20%e.meyer@ieee.org...
> The drain plug is accessible from underneath. Jack it up and take the

left
> front wheel off. It is on the side in an indentation behind the frame

rail.
> You will recognize it style of the bolt head - your breaker bar goes
> directly into the bolt. Torque it to 36 lbf-ft with a new crush washer.
>
> The fill plug is on top of the transaxle between the engine and the left
> strut tower. Look for a big brass bolt marked "ATF" conveniently in the
> middle of a big empty space. It should be torqued to 33 lbf-ft with a new
> crush washer.
>
> Take off both bolts to drain it. Then fill with 2.9 US quarts.
>
> On 8/3/03 11:13 AM, in article

20030803121356.27762.00000869@mb-m23.aol.com,
> "VinnieMak" <vinniemak@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > I was looking for the bolt location on the transmission, to do the
> > transmission
> > oil change.
> >
> > I looked underneath and found a plug marked PL. The same plug if on

level
> > ground can be accessed by reaching it from the top, located opposite to

the
> > radiator, to the right (i.e if you have the hood up and looked down, you

can
> > kinda see this bolt). I had the car up on the ramp and saw the PL plug
> > clearly
> > marked. I guess to do the transmission oil change, the car needs to be

on
> > level ground (and not up on ramps like I had). It will be a challenge

to get
> > at the bolt from the top.
> >
> > Is this it?? or is there another tranny replacement bolt that I

completely
> > missed. I just wanted to be sure.
> >
> > So far the TL3.2 service is going good ; I replaced the anti freeze, oil

&
> > filter change, AC cabin filters, air filter. Just the tranny fluid and

last
> > the brake fluid bleed down.
> >
> >

>



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Old 03 Aug 2003, 06:34 pm
E. Meyer
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Default Re: Bolt location - transmission oil change 3.2TL 2000

The hole in the dipstick tube is very small - about the width of a soda
straw. It is very easy to put it in the fill hole. It is a big hole and
there is nothing in the way. You will want a long funnel though.

On 8/3/03 5:24 PM, in article 6YfXa.7709$W%3.4730@nwrdny01.gnilink.net,
"vinniemak" <vinniemak@netzero.net> wrote:

> Thanks E. Meyer to the rescue. I will look for the ATF bolt as you have
> described.
>
> In regards to filling, can I fill using the hole after removing the
> transmission oil dipstick?? using the top fill port could be harder ??
>
> I have the new crush washer - so I am all set. I will probably to all of
> this on Tuesday evening. Will keep you posted. Thanks for all your help so
> far. You've been most helpful.
>
> Regards,
>
> Vinnie
> ========
> "E. Meyer" <e.meyer@ieee.org> wrote in message
> news:BB52D7FC.8C20%e.meyer@ieee.org...
>> The drain plug is accessible from underneath. Jack it up and take the

> left
>> front wheel off. It is on the side in an indentation behind the frame

> rail.
>> You will recognize it style of the bolt head - your breaker bar goes
>> directly into the bolt. Torque it to 36 lbf-ft with a new crush washer.
>>
>> The fill plug is on top of the transaxle between the engine and the left
>> strut tower. Look for a big brass bolt marked "ATF" conveniently in the
>> middle of a big empty space. It should be torqued to 33 lbf-ft with a new
>> crush washer.
>>
>> Take off both bolts to drain it. Then fill with 2.9 US quarts.
>>
>> On 8/3/03 11:13 AM, in article

> 20030803121356.27762.00000869@mb-m23.aol.com,
>> "VinnieMak" <vinniemak@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I was looking for the bolt location on the transmission, to do the
>>> transmission
>>> oil change.
>>>
>>> I looked underneath and found a plug marked PL. The same plug if on

> level
>>> ground can be accessed by reaching it from the top, located opposite to

> the
>>> radiator, to the right (i.e if you have the hood up and looked down, you

> can
>>> kinda see this bolt). I had the car up on the ramp and saw the PL plug
>>> clearly
>>> marked. I guess to do the transmission oil change, the car needs to be

> on
>>> level ground (and not up on ramps like I had). It will be a challenge

> to get
>>> at the bolt from the top.
>>>
>>> Is this it?? or is there another tranny replacement bolt that I

> completely
>>> missed. I just wanted to be sure.
>>>
>>> So far the TL3.2 service is going good ; I replaced the anti freeze, oil

> &
>>> filter change, AC cabin filters, air filter. Just the tranny fluid and

> last
>>> the brake fluid bleed down.
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>


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Old 03 Aug 2003, 07:25 pm
E. Meyer
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Default Re: Bolt location - transmission oil change 3.2TL 2000

I don't remember it spilling out. Probably the best thing to do is just
take a look at where it is before you go out for parts & you will see what
sort of funnel you will want. There is nothing above it. Look down just
inside the left strut tower.

The only tricky part was finding the drain plug because the view of it is
obstructed by the frame rail when you look for it from the wheel well. It
is easy to see from underneath, but its too close to the wheel well to get a
pan under it when you use the ramps (it streams out sideways towards the
wheel).

On 8/3/03 5:49 PM, in article RjgXa.5908$mZ6.4851@nwrdny02.gnilink.net,
"vinniemak" <vinniemak@netzero.net> wrote:

> I will try to get a long funnel. Does it need to seal the bottom as the oil
> passes into the transmission. Also, if you have any recommendations, now
> would be a good time to let me know (as I haven't bought th funnel yet !!).
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
> Vinnie
> ======
> "E. Meyer" <e.meyer@ieee.org> wrote in message
> news:BB52F82C.8C81%e.meyer@ieee.org...
>> The hole in the dipstick tube is very small - about the width of a soda
>> straw. It is very easy to put it in the fill hole. It is a big hole and
>> there is nothing in the way. You will want a long funnel though.
>>
>> On 8/3/03 5:24 PM, in article 6YfXa.7709$W%3.4730@nwrdny01.gnilink.net,
>> "vinniemak" <vinniemak@netzero.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks E. Meyer to the rescue. I will look for the ATF bolt as you have
>>> described.
>>>
>>> In regards to filling, can I fill using the hole after removing the
>>> transmission oil dipstick?? using the top fill port could be harder ??
>>>
>>> I have the new crush washer - so I am all set. I will probably to all

> of
>>> this on Tuesday evening. Will keep you posted. Thanks for all your

> help so
>>> far. You've been most helpful.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Vinnie
>>> ========
>>> "E. Meyer" <e.meyer@ieee.org> wrote in message
>>> news:BB52D7FC.8C20%e.meyer@ieee.org...
>>>> The drain plug is accessible from underneath. Jack it up and take the
>>> left
>>>> front wheel off. It is on the side in an indentation behind the frame
>>> rail.
>>>> You will recognize it style of the bolt head - your breaker bar goes
>>>> directly into the bolt. Torque it to 36 lbf-ft with a new crush

> washer.
>>>>
>>>> The fill plug is on top of the transaxle between the engine and the

> left
>>>> strut tower. Look for a big brass bolt marked "ATF" conveniently in

> the
>>>> middle of a big empty space. It should be torqued to 33 lbf-ft with a

> new
>>>> crush washer.
>>>>
>>>> Take off both bolts to drain it. Then fill with 2.9 US quarts.
>>>>
>>>> On 8/3/03 11:13 AM, in article
>>> 20030803121356.27762.00000869@mb-m23.aol.com,
>>>> "VinnieMak" <vinniemak@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was looking for the bolt location on the transmission, to do the
>>>>> transmission
>>>>> oil change.
>>>>>
>>>>> I looked underneath and found a plug marked PL. The same plug if on
>>> level
>>>>> ground can be accessed by reaching it from the top, located opposite

> to
>>> the
>>>>> radiator, to the right (i.e if you have the hood up and looked down,

> you
>>> can
>>>>> kinda see this bolt). I had the car up on the ramp and saw the PL

> plug
>>>>> clearly
>>>>> marked. I guess to do the transmission oil change, the car needs to

> be
>>> on
>>>>> level ground (and not up on ramps like I had). It will be a challenge
>>> to get
>>>>> at the bolt from the top.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this it?? or is there another tranny replacement bolt that I
>>> completely
>>>>> missed. I just wanted to be sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far the TL3.2 service is going good ; I replaced the anti freeze,

> oil
>>> &
>>>>> filter change, AC cabin filters, air filter. Just the tranny fluid

> and
>>> last
>>>>> the brake fluid bleed down.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>


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Old 03 Aug 2003, 07:30 pm
vinniemak
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Default Re: Bolt location - transmission oil change 3.2TL 2000

Hi, E. Meyer:

I didn't take the wheel off, but moved the tire all the way left and took
this picture from behind the driver's side wheel:

http://members.bellatlantic.net/vze2rdw2/tl_trans.jpg

I could get at the bolts w/o taking the wheel off.

Please comment. Thanks,

Vinnie
=========
"vinniemak" <vinniemak@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:RjgXa.5908$mZ6.4851@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> I will try to get a long funnel. Does it need to seal the bottom as the

oil
> passes into the transmission. Also, if you have any recommendations, now
> would be a good time to let me know (as I haven't bought th funnel yet

!!).
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
> Vinnie
> ======
> "E. Meyer" <e.meyer@ieee.org> wrote in message
> news:BB52F82C.8C81%e.meyer@ieee.org...
> > The hole in the dipstick tube is very small - about the width of a soda
> > straw. It is very easy to put it in the fill hole. It is a big hole

and
> > there is nothing in the way. You will want a long funnel though.
> >
> > On 8/3/03 5:24 PM, in article 6YfXa.7709$W%3.4730@nwrdny01.gnilink.net,
> > "vinniemak" <vinniemak@netzero.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks E. Meyer to the rescue. I will look for the ATF bolt as you

have
> > > described.
> > >
> > > In regards to filling, can I fill using the hole after removing the
> > > transmission oil dipstick?? using the top fill port could be harder

??
> > >
> > > I have the new crush washer - so I am all set. I will probably to all

> of
> > > this on Tuesday evening. Will keep you posted. Thanks for all your

> help so
> > > far. You've been most helpful.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Vinnie
> > > ========
> > > "E. Meyer" <e.meyer@ieee.org> wrote in message
> > > news:BB52D7FC.8C20%e.meyer@ieee.org...
> > >> The drain plug is accessible from underneath. Jack it up and take

the
> > > left
> > >> front wheel off. It is on the side in an indentation behind the

frame
> > > rail.
> > >> You will recognize it style of the bolt head - your breaker bar goes
> > >> directly into the bolt. Torque it to 36 lbf-ft with a new crush

> washer.
> > >>
> > >> The fill plug is on top of the transaxle between the engine and the

> left
> > >> strut tower. Look for a big brass bolt marked "ATF" conveniently in

> the
> > >> middle of a big empty space. It should be torqued to 33 lbf-ft with

a
> new
> > >> crush washer.
> > >>
> > >> Take off both bolts to drain it. Then fill with 2.9 US quarts.
> > >>
> > >> On 8/3/03 11:13 AM, in article
> > > 20030803121356.27762.00000869@mb-m23.aol.com,
> > >> "VinnieMak" <vinniemak@aol.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I was looking for the bolt location on the transmission, to do the
> > >>> transmission
> > >>> oil change.
> > >>>
> > >>> I looked underneath and found a plug marked PL. The same plug if on
> > > level
> > >>> ground can be accessed by reaching it from the top, located opposite

> to
> > > the
> > >>> radiator, to the right (i.e if you have the hood up and looked down,

> you
> > > can
> > >>> kinda see this bolt). I had the car up on the ramp and saw the PL

> plug
> > >>> clearly
> > >>> marked. I guess to do the transmission oil change, the car needs to

> be
> > > on
> > >>> level ground (and not up on ramps like I had). It will be a

challenge
> > > to get
> > >>> at the bolt from the top.
> > >>>
> > >>> Is this it?? or is there another tranny replacement bolt that I
> > > completely
> > >>> missed. I just wanted to be sure.
> > >>>
> > >>> So far the TL3.2 service is going good ; I replaced the anti freeze,

> oil
> > > &
> > >>> filter change, AC cabin filters, air filter. Just the tranny fluid

> and
> > > last
> > >>> the brake fluid bleed down.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >

> >

>
>



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Old 03 Aug 2003, 11:18 pm
vinniemak
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Default Re: Bolt location - transmission oil change 3.2TL 2000

Thanks for the picture. I will try to jack the car up and look for bolt a
little forward like you said. I have it printed out and hope it helps.
Thanks a bunch for your help. If you can post a better picture of both the
upper and lower bolt, don't hesitate (you might need a scanner).

In any case, I appreciate all your help. I will post my results shortly .

Have a good night.

Vinnie
===========
"E. Meyer" <e.meyer@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BB5314B7.8CE8%e.meyer@ieee.org...
> The drain bolt is not visible in that picture. It is further forward and
> underneath. I took a shot of the diagram in the service manual, but all I
> had handy was the cell phone camera. Its kind of blurry, but you might

get
> a better idea from it.
>
>
>
> On 8/3/03 6:30 PM, in article 7WgXa.5941$mZ6.3988@nwrdny02.gnilink.net,
> "vinniemak" <vinniemak@netzero.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi, E. Meyer:
> >
> > I didn't take the wheel off, but moved the tire all the way left and

took
> > this picture from behind the driver's side wheel:
> >
> > http://members.bellatlantic.net/vze2rdw2/tl_trans.jpg
> >
> > I could get at the bolts w/o taking the wheel off.
> >
> > Please comment. Thanks,
> >
> > Vinnie
> > =========
> > "vinniemak" <vinniemak@netzero.net> wrote in message
> > news:RjgXa.5908$mZ6.4851@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> >> I will try to get a long funnel. Does it need to seal the bottom as

the
> > oil
> >> passes into the transmission. Also, if you have any recommendations,

now
> >> would be a good time to let me know (as I haven't bought th funnel yet

> > !!).
> >>
> >> Thanks again for your help.
> >>
> >> Vinnie
> >> ======
> >> "E. Meyer" <e.meyer@ieee.org> wrote in message
> >> news:BB52F82C.8C81%e.meyer@ieee.org...
> >>> The hole in the dipstick tube is very small - about the width of a

soda
> >>> straw. It is very easy to put it in the fill hole. It is a big hole

> > and
> >>> there is nothing in the way. You will want a long funnel though.
> >>>
> >>> On 8/3/03 5:24 PM, in article

6YfXa.7709$W%3.4730@nwrdny01.gnilink.net,
> >>> "vinniemak" <vinniemak@netzero.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks E. Meyer to the rescue. I will look for the ATF bolt as you

> > have
> >>>> described.
> >>>>
> >>>> In regards to filling, can I fill using the hole after removing the
> >>>> transmission oil dipstick?? using the top fill port could be harder

> > ??
> >>>>
> >>>> I have the new crush washer - so I am all set. I will probably to

all
> >> of
> >>>> this on Tuesday evening. Will keep you posted. Thanks for all your
> >> help so
> >>>> far. You've been most helpful.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Vinnie
> >>>> ========
> >>>> "E. Meyer" <e.meyer@ieee.org> wrote in message
> >>>> news:BB52D7FC.8C20%e.meyer@ieee.org...
> >>>>> The drain plug is accessible from underneath. Jack it up and take

> > the
> >>>> left
> >>>>> front wheel off. It is on the side in an indentation behind the

> > frame
> >>>> rail.
> >>>>> You will recognize it style of the bolt head - your breaker bar goes
> >>>>> directly into the bolt. Torque it to 36 lbf-ft with a new crush
> >> washer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The fill plug is on top of the transaxle between the engine and the
> >> left
> >>>>> strut tower. Look for a big brass bolt marked "ATF" conveniently in
> >> the
> >>>>> middle of a big empty space. It should be torqued to 33 lbf-ft with

> > a
> >> new
> >>>>> crush washer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Take off both bolts to drain it. Then fill with 2.9 US quarts.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 8/3/03 11:13 AM, in article
> >>>> 20030803121356.27762.00000869@mb-m23.aol.com,
> >>>>> "VinnieMak" <vinniemak@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I was looking for the bolt location on the transmission, to do the
> >>>>>> transmission
> >>>>>> oil change.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I looked underneath and found a plug marked PL. The same plug if

on
> >>>> level
> >>>>>> ground can be accessed by reaching it from the top, located

opposite
> >> to
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> radiator, to the right (i.e if you have the hood up and looked

down,
> >> you
> >>>> can
> >>>>>> kinda see this bolt). I had the car up on the ramp and saw the PL
> >> plug
> >>>>>> clearly
> >>>>>> marked. I guess to do the transmission oil change, the car needs

to
> >> be
> >>>> on
> >>>>>> level ground (and not up on ramps like I had). It will be a

> > challenge
> >>>> to get
> >>>>>> at the bolt from the top.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is this it?? or is there another tranny replacement bolt that I
> >>>> completely
> >>>>>> missed. I just wanted to be sure.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So far the TL3.2 service is going good ; I replaced the anti

freeze,
> >> oil
> >>>> &
> >>>>>> filter change, AC cabin filters, air filter. Just the tranny fluid
> >> and
> >>>> last
> >>>>>> the brake fluid bleed down.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>



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