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Impression I have from reading the information is that it targets the young
under 30 executive making around 80k a year. Since I'm 62, am retired on a second career, I don't fit at all. So, I'll keep on driving my 01 Prelude. "JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message news:557sgvcjkqprhlk6embpvt5sjggfo9754f@4ax.com... > Who is supposed to buy that model, and who is actually buying it? > > I thought that basically smaller meant younger, but so far, the only > driver I've seen in one didn't look very young. > > J. > |
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80k is a little steep for this demographic. i would take it below 50k.
they are going for the IS300, A4 1.8, 325 crowd. i think the demo is the MALE, single car, mid 20s, 50k, not-married. however, that target is generally pretty knowledgeable in terms of performance cars and sees the advantages and branding of the competition. "i can get a bimmer for the price of an accord" mentallity. i saw 2 friends pass up the tsx for the IS and 325. shoulda left it a honda i say. "Tom Waugh" <twaugh5@cox.net> wrote in message news:IxHPa.1931$zd4.291@lakeread02... > Impression I have from reading the information is that it targets the young > under 30 executive making around 80k a year. Since I'm 62, am retired on a > second career, I don't fit at all. So, I'll keep on driving my 01 Prelude. > > "JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message > news:557sgvcjkqprhlk6embpvt5sjggfo9754f@4ax.com... > > Who is supposed to buy that model, and who is actually buying it? > > > > I thought that basically smaller meant younger, but so far, the only > > driver I've seen in one didn't look very young. > > > > J. > > > > |
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good post.
but, i didn't feel that the TSX had much more luxury than the accord. here's what i think should happen: move the plastic clad RSX to the honda line and offer 2 doors on the TSX. this would work pretty seamlessly since i think the general public sees acura as just a costlier honda, similar to the swapping of geo/chevy. i don't feel acura has reached the status of a brand like lexus which stands on it own. "Mikey" <%noospaam)mikling@eol.ca> wrote in message news:hm0Qa.4006$yT6.1250@nntp-post.primus.ca... > Honda boxed themselves in on this one. The North American Accord is the > Japanese Honda Inspire - higher up than the Accord. I think you'll see that > the NA Accord is the better buy. Honda was forced to offer the JDM Inspire > as the North American Accord thanks to Toyota's large and upgraded Camry. If > they offered the TSX sized JDM Accord in North America they would have > gotten totally demolished by Toyota. If you are buying a TSX you are paying > a top top dollar for the Accord. I suspect the TSX is going to be orphaned > after this generation. Looks like another Vigor which was the Honda Inspire. > Accord buyers rejoice in your luck from Toyota. > "tomk" <no@mail.com> wrote in message news:AYHPa.1363$b_4.498@lakeread07... > > 80k is a little steep for this demographic. i would take it below 50k. > > they are going for the IS300, A4 1.8, 325 crowd. > > i think the demo is the MALE, single car, mid 20s, 50k, not-married. > > however, that target is generally pretty knowledgeable in terms of > > performance cars and sees the advantages and branding of the > > competition. "i can get a bimmer for the price of an accord" mentallity. > > i saw 2 friends pass up the tsx for the IS and 325. > > > > shoulda left it a honda i say. > > > > > > "Tom Waugh" <twaugh5@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:IxHPa.1931$zd4.291@lakeread02... > > > Impression I have from reading the information is that it targets the > > young > > > under 30 executive making around 80k a year. Since I'm 62, am retired > on > > a > > > second career, I don't fit at all. So, I'll keep on driving my 01 > > Prelude. > > > > > > "JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message > > > news:557sgvcjkqprhlk6embpvt5sjggfo9754f@4ax.com... > > > > Who is supposed to buy that model, and who is actually buying it? > > > > > > > > I thought that basically smaller meant younger, but so far, the only > > > > driver I've seen in one didn't look very young. > > > > > > > > J. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 19:18:16 -0400, "tomk" <no@mail.com> wrote:
>here's what i think should happen: >... offer 2 >doors on the TSX. The Acura lineup is *so* missing a wishbone/multilink-suspended coupe with a manual transmission. I would have bought a CL type S in a heartbeat had it had a stick. Now there's not going to be a new CL, much less one with a stick. And don't even get me started about RWD... I am somewhat seriously contemplating buying a 6-speed TSX though. Without the nav system, the MSRP/delivery is $26,990. Dealer invoice is $24,647 and there's a $795 dealer holdback, so actual dealer cost is $23,852. A local dealer told me(1) that dealers are only going to be getting about 7 cars a month, and they are flying out the door. He had 3 left on the lot, all six-speeds (interestingly). First haggling over price yielded only $200 off the sticker price. (1) Yeah, I know. For what it's worth. -- Dan Drake |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 08:15:37 -0400, Dan Drake
<ddrake@NOTTHIS.comcast.net> wrote: >On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 19:18:16 -0400, "tomk" <no@mail.com> wrote: > >>here's what i think should happen: >>... offer 2 >>doors on the TSX. > >The Acura lineup is *so* missing a wishbone/multilink-suspended coupe >with a manual transmission. I would have bought a CL type S in a >heartbeat had it had a stick. Now there's not going to be a new CL, >much less one with a stick. And don't even get me started about >RWD... I'm confused. I'm pretty sure the CL can be had with a 6-speed. The TL-S (which I have) doesn't, but the CL does. |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 12:52:48 GMT, Lee Florack
<lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote: >I'm confused. I'm pretty sure the CL can be had with a 6-speed. >The TL-S (which I have) doesn't, but the CL does. You're right. I guess that changed since the last time I looked. I may have to reconsider the TSX thing... -- Dan Drake |
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Dan Drake wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 12:52:48 GMT, Lee Florack > <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote: > > >>I'm confused. I'm pretty sure the CL can be had with a 6-speed. >>The TL-S (which I have) doesn't, but the CL does. > > > You're right. I guess that changed since the last time I looked. I > may have to reconsider the TSX thing... Better hurry, tho. They may have already stopped production... |
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The people who see Acura as a costlier Honda are the same people who see
Lexus as a costlier Toyota and Infinity as a costlier Nissan. It's all merely a matter of perspective. tomk wrote: > good post. > but, i didn't feel that the TSX had much more luxury than > the accord. > > here's what i think should happen: > move the plastic clad RSX to the honda line and offer 2 > doors on the TSX. this would work pretty seamlessly since > i think the general public sees acura as just a costlier honda, > similar to the swapping of geo/chevy. i don't feel acura has > reached the status of a brand like lexus which stands on it own. > > > > > > "Mikey" <%noospaam)mikling@eol.ca> wrote in message > news:hm0Qa.4006$yT6.1250@nntp-post.primus.ca... > >>Honda boxed themselves in on this one. The North American Accord is the >>Japanese Honda Inspire - higher up than the Accord. I think you'll see > > that > >>the NA Accord is the better buy. Honda was forced to offer the JDM Inspire >>as the North American Accord thanks to Toyota's large and upgraded Camry. > > If > >>they offered the TSX sized JDM Accord in North America they would have >>gotten totally demolished by Toyota. If you are buying a TSX you are > > paying > >>a top top dollar for the Accord. I suspect the TSX is going to be orphaned >>after this generation. Looks like another Vigor which was the Honda > > Inspire. > >>Accord buyers rejoice in your luck from Toyota. >>"tomk" <no@mail.com> wrote in message > > news:AYHPa.1363$b_4.498@lakeread07... > >>>80k is a little steep for this demographic. i would take it below 50k. >>>they are going for the IS300, A4 1.8, 325 crowd. >>>i think the demo is the MALE, single car, mid 20s, 50k, not-married. >>>however, that target is generally pretty knowledgeable in terms of >>>performance cars and sees the advantages and branding of the >>>competition. "i can get a bimmer for the price of an accord" mentallity. >>>i saw 2 friends pass up the tsx for the IS and 325. >>> >>>shoulda left it a honda i say. >>> >>> >>>"Tom Waugh" <twaugh5@cox.net> wrote in message >>>news:IxHPa.1931$zd4.291@lakeread02... >>> >>>>Impression I have from reading the information is that it targets the >>> >>>young >>> >>>>under 30 executive making around 80k a year. Since I'm 62, am > > retired > >>on >> >>>a >>> >>>>second career, I don't fit at all. So, I'll keep on driving my 01 >>> >>>Prelude. >>> >>>>"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message >>>>news:557sgvcjkqprhlk6embpvt5sjggfo9754f@4ax.co m... >>>> >>>>>Who is supposed to buy that model, and who is actually buying it? >>>>> >>>>>I thought that basically smaller meant younger, but so far, the only >>>>>driver I've seen in one didn't look very young. >>>>> >>>>>J. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > |
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Corey,
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 17:05:18 GMT, Corey <nomail@thisaddress.inv> wrote: >The people who see Acura as a costlier Honda are the same people who see >Lexus as a costlier Toyota and Infinity as a costlier Nissan. It's all >merely a matter of perspective. I' agree with you but that's not what TomK said. He said that although (most people feel that) Lexus stood on it's own, Acura is viewed as a costlier Honda. My question was why does he think (TomK) that. |
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duh, they're all hondas in japan
"Corey" <nomail@thisaddress.inv> wrote in message news:ijgQa.18087$BM.5564108@newssrv26.news.prodigy .com... > The people who see Acura as a costlier Honda are the same people who see > Lexus as a costlier Toyota and Infinity as a costlier Nissan. It's all > merely a matter of perspective. > > tomk wrote: > > > good post. > > but, i didn't feel that the TSX had much more luxury than > > the accord. > > > > here's what i think should happen: > > move the plastic clad RSX to the honda line and offer 2 > > doors on the TSX. this would work pretty seamlessly since > > i think the general public sees acura as just a costlier honda, > > similar to the swapping of geo/chevy. i don't feel acura has > > reached the status of a brand like lexus which stands on it own. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Mikey" <%noospaam)mikling@eol.ca> wrote in message > > news:hm0Qa.4006$yT6.1250@nntp-post.primus.ca... > > > >>Honda boxed themselves in on this one. The North American Accord is the > >>Japanese Honda Inspire - higher up than the Accord. I think you'll see > > > > that > > > >>the NA Accord is the better buy. Honda was forced to offer the JDM Inspire > >>as the North American Accord thanks to Toyota's large and upgraded Camry. > > > > If > > > >>they offered the TSX sized JDM Accord in North America they would have > >>gotten totally demolished by Toyota. If you are buying a TSX you are > > > > paying > > > >>a top top dollar for the Accord. I suspect the TSX is going to be orphaned > >>after this generation. Looks like another Vigor which was the Honda > > > > Inspire. > > > >>Accord buyers rejoice in your luck from Toyota. > >>"tomk" <no@mail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:AYHPa.1363$b_4.498@lakeread07... > > > >>>80k is a little steep for this demographic. i would take it below 50k. > >>>they are going for the IS300, A4 1.8, 325 crowd. > >>>i think the demo is the MALE, single car, mid 20s, 50k, not-married. > >>>however, that target is generally pretty knowledgeable in terms of > >>>performance cars and sees the advantages and branding of the > >>>competition. "i can get a bimmer for the price of an accord" mentallity. > >>>i saw 2 friends pass up the tsx for the IS and 325. > >>> > >>>shoulda left it a honda i say. > >>> > >>> > >>>"Tom Waugh" <twaugh5@cox.net> wrote in message > >>>news:IxHPa.1931$zd4.291@lakeread02... > >>> > >>>>Impression I have from reading the information is that it targets the > >>> > >>>young > >>> > >>>>under 30 executive making around 80k a year. Since I'm 62, am > > > > retired > > > >>on > >> > >>>a > >>> > >>>>second career, I don't fit at all. So, I'll keep on driving my 01 > >>> > >>>Prelude. > >>> > >>>>"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message > >>>>news:557sgvcjkqprhlk6embpvt5sjggfo9754f@4ax.co m... > >>>> > >>>>>Who is supposed to buy that model, and who is actually buying it? > >>>>> > >>>>>I thought that basically smaller meant younger, but so far, the only > >>>>>driver I've seen in one didn't look very young. > >>>>> > >>>>>J. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > > > |
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