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Acceleration wise I believe the Accord has a slight edge on the TSX. The
Accord V6 Coupe 6speed definitely have a VERY large acceleration advantage
but one's a coupe and the other is a sedan. I saw the TSX with navigation
at the dealership when we went to test drove the MDX, it looks like A very
nice car but the price is steep once you add all the goodies such as
Navigation system etc...

The TSX will out handle the Accord (at least the Sedan), I have not seen
handling numbers on the Accord Coupe yet but the acceleration on the Accord
Coupe is only fraction of a second slower than the S2000, it does something
like 14.2 @99 MPH 1/4 mile. Which is awesome!

I think the Accords are better value. If the TSX came with a 240 or 250 HP
engine... it would be almost perfect!

"Holden" <craymore@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93AEAB20BDbeHoldenhomecom@66.185.95.104...
> cool thanks for the info. i'll definitly add it to my possibilities list
> for new cars, though its still a bit pricey considering the v6 accord has
> 40 more hp.
>
>
>
> "Fluffy" <no-spamming-bsavanh@mchsi.com> wrote in
> news:IxiNa.35066$926.3014@sccrnsc03:
>
> > Here's C&D Test Result, it's not a rocket but it's quite fast.
> >
> > C/D TEST RESULTS
> >
> > ACCELERATION (Seconds)
> >
> > Zero to 30 mph: 2.5
> > 40 mph: 3.9
> > 50 mph: 5.5
> > 60 mph: 7.2
> > 70 mph: 9.5
> > 80 mph: 11.8
> > 90 mph: 15.3
> > 100 mph: 19.0
> > 110 mph: 24.4
> > 120 mph: 34.0
> > Street start, 5-60 mph: 7.7
> > Top-gear acceleration, 30-50 mph: 10.2
> > 50-70 mph: 9.7
> > Standing 1/4-mile: 15.6 sec @ 91 mph
> > Top speed (drag limited): 133 mph
> >
> >
> > BRAKING
> >
> > 70-0 mph @ impending lockup: 185 ft
> > Fade: none light moderate heavy
> >
> >
> > HANDLING
> >
> > Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.85 g
> > Understeer: minimal moderate excessive
> >
> >
> > FUEL ECONOMY
> >
> > EPA city driving: 21 mpg
> > EPA highway driving: 29 mpg
> > C/D-observed: 24 mpg
> >
> >
> > INTERIOR SOUND LEVEL
> >
> > Idle: 38 dBA
> > Full-throttle acceleration: 74 dBA
> > 70-mph cruising: 67 Dba
> >
> >
> >
> > 2004 ACURA TSX
> >
> > Vehicle type: front-engine, front-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door
> > sedan
> >
> >
> > Price as tested: $28,990
> >
> >
> > Price and option breakdown: base Acura TSX (includes $500 freight),
> > $26,990; navigation system, $2000
> >
> >
> > Major standard accessories: power steering, windows, seat, locks, and
> > sunroof; A/C; cruise control; tilting and telescoping steering wheel;
> > rear defroster
> >
> >
> > Sound system: Acura AM/FM-stereo radio/CD changer, 8 speakers
> >
> >
> > ENGINE
> >
> > Type: 4-in-line, aluminum block and head
> > Bore x stroke: 3.43 x 3.90 in, 87.0 x 99.0mm
> > Displacement: 144 cu in, 2354cc
> > Compression ratio: 10.5:1
> > Engine-control system: Honda PGM-FI with port fuel injection
> > Emissions controls: 3-way catalytic converter, feedback air-fuel-ratio
> > control
> > Valve gear: chain-driven double overhead cams, 4 valves per cylinder,
> > hydraulic lifters, variable intake- and exhaust-valve timing and lift
> > Power (SAE net): 200 bhp @ 6800 rpm
> > Torque (SAE net): 166 lb-ft @ 4500 rpm
> > Redline: 7100 rpm
> >
> > DRIVETRAIN
> >
> > Transmission: 6-speed manual
> > Final-drive ratio: 4.70:1
> > Gear ... Ratio ... Mph/1000 rpm ... Max. test speed
> > I ... 3.27 ... 4.8 ... 34 mph (7100 rpm)
> > II ... 1.88 ... 8.4 ... 60 mph (7100 rpm)
> > III ... 1.36 ... 11.7 ... 83 mph (7100 rpm)
> > IV ... 1.03 ... 15.4 ... 109 mph (7100 rpm)
> > V ... 0.83 ... 19.2 ... 133 mph (6950 rpm)
> > VI ... 0.66 ... 24.0 ... 133 mph (5550 rpm)
> >
> > DIMENSIONS AND CAPACITIES
> >
> > Wheelbase: 105.1 in
> > Track, F/R: 59.6/59.6 in
> > Length: 183.3 in
> > Width: 69.4 in
> > Height: 57.3 in
> > Ground clearance: 6.2 in
> > Curb weight: 3246 lb
> > Weight distribution, F/R: 59.9/40.1%
> > Fuel capacity: 17.1 gal
> > Oil capacity: 5.3 qt
> > Water capacity: 7.4 qt
> >
> > CHASSIS/BODY
> >
> > Type: unit construction with 2 rubber-isolated subframes
> > Body: material welded steel stampings
> >
> > INTERIOR
> >
> > SAE volume, front seat: 51 cu ft
> > rear seat: 39 cu ft
> > luggage space: 13 cu ft
> > Front seats: bucket
> > Seat adjustments: fore and aft, seatback angle, front height, rear
> > height, lumbar support
> > Restraint systems, front: manual 3-point belts; driver and passenger
> > front, side, and curtain airbags rear manual 3-point belts, outboard
> > curtain airbags
> > General comfort: poor fair good excellent
> > Fore-and-aft support: poor fair good excellent
> > Lateral support: poor fair good excellent
> >
> >
> > SUSPENSION
> >
> > F: ind, unequal-length control arms, coil springs, anti-roll bar
> > R: ind, 3 lateral links and 2 diagonal links per side, coil springs,
> > anti-roll bar
> >
> >
> > STEERING
> >
> > Type: rack-and-pinion, power-assisted
> > Turns lock-to-lock: 2.7
> > Turning circle curb-to-curb: 40.0 ft
> >
> >
> > BRAKES
> >
> > F: 11.8 x 1.1-in vented disc
> > R: 10.2 x 0.4-in disc
> > Power assist vacuum with anti-lock control
> >
> >
> > WHEELS AND TIRES
> >
> > Wheel size: 7.0 x 17 in
> > Wheel type: cast aluminum
> > Tires: Michelin Pilot HX MXM4, 215/50VR-17
> > Test inflation pressures, F/R: 32/30 psi
> >
> > "Holden" <craymore@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xns93AE11C9A688EbeHoldenhomecom@66.185.95.104 ...
> >> has anyone heard of top speed numbers for the tsx? i've searched
> >> high and low but cannot find any data.
> >
> >
>

260hp TL-S


"Fluffy" <no-spamming-bsavanh@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:WfsNa.39054$Xm3.8707@sccrnsc02...
> Acceleration wise I believe the Accord has a slight edge on the TSX. The
> Accord V6 Coupe 6speed definitely have a VERY large acceleration advantage
> but one's a coupe and the other is a sedan. I saw the TSX with navigation
> at the dealership when we went to test drove the MDX, it looks like A very
> nice car but the price is steep once you add all the goodies such as
> Navigation system etc...
>
> The TSX will out handle the Accord (at least the Sedan), I have not seen
> handling numbers on the Accord Coupe yet but the acceleration on the
Accord
> Coupe is only fraction of a second slower than the S2000, it does
something
> like 14.2 @99 MPH 1/4 mile. Which is awesome!
>
> I think the Accords are better value. If the TSX came with a 240 or 250
HP
> engine... it would be almost perfect!
>
> "Holden" <craymore@home.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns93AEAB20BDbeHoldenhomecom@66.185.95.104...
> > cool thanks for the info. i'll definitly add it to my possibilities
list
> > for new cars, though its still a bit pricey considering the v6 accord
has
> > 40 more hp.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Fluffy" <no-spamming-bsavanh@mchsi.com> wrote in
> > news:IxiNa.35066$926.3014@sccrnsc03:
> >
> > > Here's C&D Test Result, it's not a rocket but it's quite fast.
> > >
> > > C/D TEST RESULTS
> > >
> > > ACCELERATION (Seconds)
> > >
> > > Zero to 30 mph: 2.5
> > > 40 mph: 3.9
> > > 50 mph: 5.5
> > > 60 mph: 7.2
> > > 70 mph: 9.5
> > > 80 mph: 11.8
> > > 90 mph: 15.3
> > > 100 mph: 19.0
> > > 110 mph: 24.4
> > > 120 mph: 34.0
> > > Street start, 5-60 mph: 7.7
> > > Top-gear acceleration, 30-50 mph: 10.2
> > > 50-70 mph: 9.7
> > > Standing 1/4-mile: 15.6 sec @ 91 mph
> > > Top speed (drag limited): 133 mph
> > >
> > >
> > > BRAKING
> > >
> > > 70-0 mph @ impending lockup: 185 ft
> > > Fade: none light moderate heavy
> > >
> > >
> > > HANDLING
> > >
> > > Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.85 g
> > > Understeer: minimal moderate excessive
> > >
> > >
> > > FUEL ECONOMY
> > >
> > > EPA city driving: 21 mpg
> > > EPA highway driving: 29 mpg
> > > C/D-observed: 24 mpg
> > >
> > >
> > > INTERIOR SOUND LEVEL
> > >
> > > Idle: 38 dBA
> > > Full-throttle acceleration: 74 dBA
> > > 70-mph cruising: 67 Dba
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2004 ACURA TSX
> > >
> > > Vehicle type: front-engine, front-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door
> > > sedan
> > >
> > >
> > > Price as tested: $28,990
> > >
> > >
> > > Price and option breakdown: base Acura TSX (includes $500 freight),
> > > $26,990; navigation system, $2000
> > >
> > >
> > > Major standard accessories: power steering, windows, seat, locks, and
> > > sunroof; A/C; cruise control; tilting and telescoping steering wheel;
> > > rear defroster
> > >
> > >
> > > Sound system: Acura AM/FM-stereo radio/CD changer, 8 speakers
> > >
> > >
> > > ENGINE
> > >
> > > Type: 4-in-line, aluminum block and head
> > > Bore x stroke: 3.43 x 3.90 in, 87.0 x 99.0mm
> > > Displacement: 144 cu in, 2354cc
> > > Compression ratio: 10.5:1
> > > Engine-control system: Honda PGM-FI with port fuel injection
> > > Emissions controls: 3-way catalytic converter, feedback air-fuel-ratio
> > > control
> > > Valve gear: chain-driven double overhead cams, 4 valves per cylinder,
> > > hydraulic lifters, variable intake- and exhaust-valve timing and lift
> > > Power (SAE net): 200 bhp @ 6800 rpm
> > > Torque (SAE net): 166 lb-ft @ 4500 rpm
> > > Redline: 7100 rpm
> > >
> > > DRIVETRAIN
> > >
> > > Transmission: 6-speed manual
> > > Final-drive ratio: 4.70:1
> > > Gear ... Ratio ... Mph/1000 rpm ... Max. test speed
> > > I ... 3.27 ... 4.8 ... 34 mph (7100 rpm)
> > > II ... 1.88 ... 8.4 ... 60 mph (7100 rpm)
> > > III ... 1.36 ... 11.7 ... 83 mph (7100 rpm)
> > > IV ... 1.03 ... 15.4 ... 109 mph (7100 rpm)
> > > V ... 0.83 ... 19.2 ... 133 mph (6950 rpm)
> > > VI ... 0.66 ... 24.0 ... 133 mph (5550 rpm)
> > >
> > > DIMENSIONS AND CAPACITIES
> > >
> > > Wheelbase: 105.1 in
> > > Track, F/R: 59.6/59.6 in
> > > Length: 183.3 in
> > > Width: 69.4 in
> > > Height: 57.3 in
> > > Ground clearance: 6.2 in
> > > Curb weight: 3246 lb
> > > Weight distribution, F/R: 59.9/40.1%
> > > Fuel capacity: 17.1 gal
> > > Oil capacity: 5.3 qt
> > > Water capacity: 7.4 qt
> > >
> > > CHASSIS/BODY
> > >
> > > Type: unit construction with 2 rubber-isolated subframes
> > > Body: material welded steel stampings
> > >
> > > INTERIOR
> > >
> > > SAE volume, front seat: 51 cu ft
> > > rear seat: 39 cu ft
> > > luggage space: 13 cu ft
> > > Front seats: bucket
> > > Seat adjustments: fore and aft, seatback angle, front height, rear
> > > height, lumbar support
> > > Restraint systems, front: manual 3-point belts; driver and passenger
> > > front, side, and curtain airbags rear manual 3-point belts, outboard
> > > curtain airbags
> > > General comfort: poor fair good excellent
> > > Fore-and-aft support: poor fair good excellent
> > > Lateral support: poor fair good excellent
> > >
> > >
> > > SUSPENSION
> > >
> > > F: ind, unequal-length control arms, coil springs, anti-roll bar
> > > R: ind, 3 lateral links and 2 diagonal links per side, coil springs,
> > > anti-roll bar
> > >
> > >
> > > STEERING
> > >
> > > Type: rack-and-pinion, power-assisted
> > > Turns lock-to-lock: 2.7
> > > Turning circle curb-to-curb: 40.0 ft
> > >
> > >
> > > BRAKES
> > >
> > > F: 11.8 x 1.1-in vented disc
> > > R: 10.2 x 0.4-in disc
> > > Power assist vacuum with anti-lock control
> > >
> > >
> > > WHEELS AND TIRES
> > >
> > > Wheel size: 7.0 x 17 in
> > > Wheel type: cast aluminum
> > > Tires: Michelin Pilot HX MXM4, 215/50VR-17
> > > Test inflation pressures, F/R: 32/30 psi
> > >
> > > "Holden" <craymore@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Xns93AE11C9A688EbeHoldenhomecom@66.185.95.104 ...
> > >> has anyone heard of top speed numbers for the tsx? i've searched
> > >> high and low but cannot find any data.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 04:13:42 GMT, "Fluffy"
<no-spamming-bsavanh@mchsi.com> wrote:
>I think the Accords are better value. If the TSX came with a 240 or 250 HP
>engine... it would be almost perfect!

Cut the stroke and add a turbo ...

.... or cut the price about $2k.

Yeah I know, Honda will turbo an engine right after they release the
V8.

J.